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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:11 PM
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Stop Calling Them "Chinese" Goods!!!!
Are they made in China?

Yes.

But that is where any notion of these being "Chinese" goods ends.

THESE ARE "AMERICAN" GOODS, FOLKS!!

They are designed by AMERICAN companies.

They are commissioned by AMERICAN companies.

They are sold in America by AMERICAN companies.

And AMERICAN companies reap the profits from the shoddy manufacture of AMERICAN goods made in China.

So stop giving these big companies who ship our jobs overseas, who commission and accept for sale unsafe products, this free pass.

Even if they are made somewhere else, ultimately they are AMERICAN.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:13 PM
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1. Why do you hate China?
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:13 PM
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3. LOL
Their fire drills...!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:56 PM
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25. LOL and shame on you. The PC police will get you. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:57 PM
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26. I don't hate China, I hate Chinese goods. jk nm
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:13 PM
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2. Okay, how about "Chinese" Bads????
:hide:
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:00 PM
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28. heh heh
:thumbsup:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:14 PM
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4. Damn that's a good point, and I hadn't thought of that.
The truth is that if we want higher quality to our toys, we need to put pressure on the companies outsourcing to China to stop doing it. We don't control how chinese do things and we never will, we do control how things are done in the US.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:15 PM
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5. I call them lead lickies.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:53 PM
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12. Nice phrase, I will use that from now on, Thanks.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:16 PM
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6. I will agree with that
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:19 PM
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7. I will call them American goods when they are made according to American Environmental and labor
standards.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:46 PM
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14. So your just going to completely cut Big Business a break
and hide behind a definition of "American" goods?

Like it or not - they are American.

Or to put it another way - American goods manufactured in China are Chinese goods in the same manner that Lieberman is a Democrat.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:13 PM
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19. you are preaching to the choir. You are just insisting we all sing your tune. Good luck with that
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:23 PM
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8. Sounds like an occidental orientation to me.
:dunce:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:26 PM
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9. Wrong. Publicly traded multinationals are not "American" companies...
International investors call the shots.

End of story.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:49 PM
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16. Sorry
If they are headquartered in this country, I'd say, no matter who "calls the shots" it is an American company.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:18 PM
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30. Many TNCs have many equal branches with headquarters all over the world.
To consider them "American" is overly simplistic.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:41 PM
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22. My thoughts exactly
The corporations are not American. They have no loyalty to us and will set up shop wherever they can squeeze more from the workers for less.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:05 PM
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10. What's made in China ~ Stays in China.
EOM.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:24 PM
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11. Great Post! Yes, they are Americans who Offshore who ScoffLaw against our Regulations against Toxin
who are killing us with Lead Products, Additives of who knows what in our Vitamins and are polluting our Planet with Cheap Goods who will assure that the World's Population Declines so that the RICH OWN IT ALL!

We here on DU go on about our American Big Pharma who is using Third World Countries to experiment on, or ship their crap recalled products to.

WE ARE COMPLICIT in the KILLING. We OFFSHORED IT ALL ...and called it FREE TRADE/GLOBILIZATION that would bring FREEDOM TO THE WORLD.... AND WE ARE KILLING IT ALL FOR THE RICH EXPLOITERS!

The jobs that are produced are WALL MART JOBS...with no Labor Bargaining and no Health Insurance. It looks so "pretty" that all these Wall Marts and Shopping Centers spring up all over America under Bush and Late Clinton while 98% of all our SHOES and CLOTHING..DISHES AND APPLIANCES are MADE IN CHINA or INDONESIA with VIETNAM coming in THIRD! We got rid of polution to make these goods here in America but the FOUL AIR from NO REGULATED TOXIC GOODS comes across the Pacific from California across the Plains to the East Coast and then to Europe and back around in a vicious toxic cycle...JUST SO WE CAN BUY CHEAP..It's all about US BUYING CHEAP to keep us imprisoned into GLOBILIZATION and the TOXIC CIRCLE!

WHEN WILL THE WORLD WAKE UP...and SAY: "WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!!"
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:13 PM
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18. KoKo01 you stated a lot of good points
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:30 PM by MagickMuffin
However, I think another point that I think plays heavily, is that the American manufacturers off-shoring our jobs.

They didn't want to PAY American workers a living wage. So, they downsized the work force, the top management gave themselves nice PLATINUM PARACHUTES from the "savings" of ALL those laid off workers, while doing bidness overseas with no over sight, and no regulations...

American Corporations: FREE to Pollute, FREE to exploit workers rights, FREE to use slave labor, child labor, FREE to offer us products that cheap and unregulated goods.

Go USA....


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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:18 PM
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13. I'm not putting a bad rap on AMERICAN WORKERS, which is what your idea would then imply.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:47 PM
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15. But they are not made by AMERICANS, and labor is what I consider American.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:23 PM
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20. The American companies are responsible for quality control.
I think that's the point the OP's making. They're sorta getting a pass because we blame their Chinese slave labor for the lead in the paint.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:19 PM
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31. And who put the lead in the paint?
The blame goes where the blame deserves--in China's utter lack of industrial regulation and standards.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:49 PM
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17. I call them MIC goods
MIC for "Made In China"

And I disagree that they are all American companies. Many are foreign companies, and even many of the American companies are largely foreign-owned.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:39 PM
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21. Most companies are global companies
whose profits go to global owners.

And with the fire sale on American assets due to dollar devaluation, foreign owners will soon be in the majority.



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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:45 PM
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23. Yes, but that leaves few options.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:47 PM by Gregorian
More expensive items, or less pay to make them. And I already know that this is not something people want to hear.

And one other thing, these goods are demanded by Americans. So just like the political mess we're in, WE share the blame.

I'm sure there's something important I've missed. And I'm happy to hear it. I love being wrong. Because being right about this totally sucks.


Edit- And I haven't forgotten CEO profits. I'm talking about the small stuff. Like the mountain bike I recently bought. I KNOW the guys who designed it. They live in Santa Cruz. It's a small company. We're like family. And they are not reaping huge bucks.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:55 PM
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24. excellent post.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:58 PM
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27. Totally agree! They are Chinese bads.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:16 PM
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29. And they're manufactured by Chinese factories,
using Chinese labor, with Chinese oversight, and with materials procured by Chinese managers from Chinese subcontractors (also employing Chinese labor), and inspected by Chinese inspectors.

笨老外.
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ms.smiler Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:40 PM
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32. I'm a small business person so the words I use are
domestic goods & foreign goods.

I recently saw this language: "American manufacturers" referring to domestic companies manufacturing here, and "foreign manufacturers" referring to corporations who manufacture in other countries. That language worked for me because I don't consider such multinational corporations American.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:50 PM
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33. I Thought It Was Chinese Junk
Nothing good about it.
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