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MSNBC reporting that fire was IN Cheney's offices. They're now talking about doc destruction

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MSNBC reporting that fire was IN Cheney's offices. They're now talking about doc destruction
Saying that 'sensitive materials' may have been damaged or lost.

These motherfuckers.
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   Building Seven?  Billy Burnett   Dec-19-07 10:23 AM   #1 
   There's video at CNN  Bleachers7   Dec-19-07 10:23 AM   #2 
   Not anymore - they killed the link.  Liberty Belle   Dec-20-07 12:02 AM   #134 
   I saw this coming.  liberalnurse   Dec-19-07 10:23 AM   #3 
   Oops, sorry, all the documents have gone up in flames!!!!  bambino   Dec-19-07 11:09 AM   #56 
   That must be the modern day equivalent to "the dog ate my homework".  Arkansas Granny   Dec-20-07 10:17 AM   #183 
   Ultimately even that cloud has a silver lining...  Dr_eldritch   Dec-20-07 08:15 AM   #167 
   Agreed.  anotheryellowdog   Dec-20-07 10:26 AM   #184 
   ..and still DUers ask which Repug is the least loathsome!  Didereaux   Dec-19-07 10:24 AM   #4 
   When the best of them  DIKB   Dec-19-07 11:03 AM   #49 
      I'm very sorry for your loss.  yardwork   Dec-19-07 02:27 PM   #103 
      great analogy  barbtries   Dec-20-07 03:44 AM   #144 
      mmmm Septic Truffles  Cobalt-60   Dec-20-07 07:52 AM   #165 
   I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!  Xipe Totec   Dec-19-07 10:24 AM   #5 
   So these docs don't have back up copies somewhere in case  kitty1   Dec-19-07 05:58 PM   #122 
      Bushies don't believe in digital technologies  Canuckistanian   Dec-19-07 08:54 PM   #127 
      Yeah, one would think they'd have backup copies, just in case...somewhere?  DianaForRussFeingold   Dec-20-07 04:00 AM   #148 
   yeah, the shredder short circuited... n/t  radfringe   Dec-19-07 10:24 AM   #6 
   Nah! It Overheated!  ProfessorGAC   Dec-19-07 10:50 AM   #35 
   and bush didn't know about it until he heard about it on the news....n/t  radfringe   Dec-19-07 11:08 AM   #53 
   LOL! Good One (eom)  ProfessorGAC   Dec-19-07 11:08 AM   #55 
      he'll probably refer to it as SHREDtaneous Combustation  radfringe   Dec-19-07 11:14 AM   #57 
   Well you know those Chinese shredders  catmandu57   Dec-19-07 02:41 PM   #106 
   Or maybe it was made in China!  HypnoToad   Dec-19-07 05:18 PM   #118 
   Whoops, sorry Up in Smoke!! sorry, no evidence...o well  katty   Dec-19-07 01:31 PM   #97 
   That's exactly what I said when I saw this.  knitter4democracy   Dec-19-07 05:04 PM   #116 
   perfect!!!! you can hear them now....'sorry documents were destroyed in fire'.  spanone   Dec-19-07 10:25 AM   #7 
   Just heard Secret Service is stopping fire investigators from  bullwinkle428   Dec-19-07 10:27 AM   #8 
   I was hoping some patriotic firefighters would accidentally retrieve some documents nt  fed-up   Dec-19-07 10:36 AM   #15 
   sorry no, these "firefighters" were no doubt handpicked by moron* and/or chaney. nt  Javaman   Dec-19-07 10:45 AM   #28 
      It seemed like every firefighter in the city was called out..  Virginia Dare   Dec-19-07 11:02 AM   #47 
         Oh I'm sure...  Javaman   Dec-19-07 11:41 AM   #72 
            There are functioning fireplaces in that building..  Virginia Dare   Dec-19-07 12:49 PM   #88 
               ...  Javaman   Dec-19-07 12:59 PM   #91 
   the source of the fire may never be known  Supersedeas   Dec-19-07 02:09 PM   #99 
   I EXPECT THE MOST LOATHESOME ACTIONS  YEBBA   Dec-19-07 11:29 PM   #130 
   Who gets to be the first to say  Tansy_Gold   Dec-19-07 10:30 AM   #9 
   I do, apparently.  Clark2008   Dec-19-07 10:35 AM   #14 
   Like someone actually needs to say it anymore...nt  Javaman   Dec-19-07 10:45 AM   #29 
   Missed my chance, it seems  MountainLaurel   Dec-19-07 02:28 PM   #104 
   Somehow apropos for this crew to attempt to burn down the White House n/t  IDemo   Dec-19-07 10:32 AM   #10 
   I believe Arson qualifies as a "high crime".....nt  LeftHander   Dec-19-07 10:33 AM   #11 
   destroying evidence would that count as an impeachable offense.  alyce douglas   Dec-19-07 11:32 AM   #66 
      Of course not!  ExPatLeftist   Dec-20-07 07:09 AM   #162 
   There's nothing they won't do to avoid being caught. They are criminals.  redqueen   Dec-19-07 10:33 AM   #12 
   Would they stoop that low? Of course they would!  Virginia Dare   Dec-19-07 10:34 AM   #13 
   Did the shredder short out?  aquart   Dec-19-07 10:36 AM   #16 
   His dog was sick...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Dec-20-07 08:50 AM   #170 
   Is The Dick pulling a "Milton"?  tridim   Dec-19-07 10:36 AM   #17 
   Hey. I want that red stapler!  Dawggie   Dec-19-07 02:12 PM   #101 
      you can get your own...  themartyred   Dec-20-07 02:34 AM   #140 
   Recall Ollie North talking about "shredding" during Iran/Contra cover up n/t  Echo In Light   Dec-19-07 10:36 AM   #18 
   WTF?  helderheid   Dec-19-07 10:37 AM   #19 
   you reckon they the congress critters will wake up to whats going on now,  madokie   Dec-19-07 10:37 AM   #20 
   oh look brittneys sister is prego!!  Javaman   Dec-19-07 10:47 AM   #31 
   The BFEE is the only family more fucked up than the Spears family  tridim   Dec-19-07 10:51 AM   #36 
   And DU has a thread about it!  WinkyDink   Dec-19-07 10:52 AM   #37 
   You think they don't know already, haven't known for quite a while?  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:25 AM   #150 
   Funny, ain't it? Bush's TANG records were also "destroyed by fire"  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-19-07 10:38 AM   #21 
   "Smirk, smirk, smirk." - Commander AWOL  SpiralHawk   Dec-19-07 10:41 AM   #25 
   I call for an arson investigation! This administration makes me long for the crimes of Nixon!  sinkingfeeling   Dec-19-07 10:40 AM   #22 
   Isn't that so depressingly true?  Virginia Dare   Dec-19-07 10:42 AM   #26 
   No --- after the pardon, it was obvious that things weren't going to be straightened out ---  defendandprotect   Dec-19-07 10:58 AM   #45 
   It's been a slippery slope since JFK's murder...  Virginia Dare   Dec-19-07 11:01 AM   #46 
      Well, they're aging -- Arlen Specter still with us; should be in jail--!!  defendandprotect   Dec-19-07 11:22 AM   #60 
      It's been a slippery slope since Lincoln's assassination, imho. I tend  coalition_unwilling   Dec-19-07 03:26 PM   #109 
      Bingo that is when our government lost all credibility  ooglymoogly   Dec-19-07 11:11 PM   #128 
   Cheney has been planning this for a long time  alyce douglas   Dec-19-07 11:34 AM   #67 
   As much as I was shocked by this claim when I first heard of it, the crimes of the Bush  FVZA_Colonel   Dec-19-07 01:24 PM   # 
   Self Delete.  FVZA_Colonel   Dec-19-07 01:24 PM   #93 
   This Was Predictable  Beetwasher   Dec-19-07 10:40 AM   #23 
   Yep, Reichstag, check.  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:28 AM   #151 
   I bet the fire was inside his man-sized safe. That mo-fo. Independent Prosecutor Now! nt  thereismore   Dec-19-07 10:40 AM   #24 
   LOLOLOLOL!!!  Javaman   Dec-19-07 10:42 AM   #27 
   Indeed, It's Beyond Beyond At This Point. It's Farcical In It's Obviousness  Beetwasher   Dec-19-07 10:46 AM   #30 
   Reminds me of this quote...  saddlesore   Dec-20-07 09:30 AM   #176 
   That was the first thing that I thought of when I heard about the fire  me b zola   Dec-19-07 10:47 AM   #32 
   Shredder overheated.  MidwestTransplant   Dec-19-07 10:49 AM   #33 
   How can they block fire investigators? This very well could be the scene of a serious crime.  Marr   Dec-19-07 10:50 AM   #34 
   Blocking an investigation is a crime as well, no?  tridim   Dec-19-07 10:52 AM   #40 
      Since when has this gang suffered any consequences for blocking anything?  tbyg52   Dec-20-07 11:08 AM   #186 
   Cheney should have known they needed an asbestos-lined trash can. nt  Vinca   Dec-19-07 10:52 AM   #38 
   No effing way will I believe this was an accident.  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-19-07 10:52 AM   #39 
   Maybe he spontaneously combusted  Rambis   Dec-19-07 10:53 AM   #41 
   Nah, Satan stopped by to check in on his minion.  Reader Rabbit   Dec-19-07 11:55 AM   #81 
   color me not surprised..i thought of that immediately..and the friday court date..  flyarm   Dec-19-07 10:54 AM   #42 
   Exactly. WTF cares about the Cradle of Civilization?!  TWriterD   Dec-20-07 09:37 AM   #177 
   Now..let's not make DU look silly...  Junkdrawer   Dec-19-07 10:54 AM   #43 
   Take 42...Roll 'Em!  momster   Dec-19-07 11:43 AM   #74 
   I say go for it.  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:30 AM   #152 
   Right --- It's Cheney starting to pack up and he's probably taking the advice he gave Nixon ---  defendandprotect   Dec-19-07 10:55 AM   #44 
   It's just fucking amazing watching this cabal at work.  balantz   Dec-19-07 11:02 AM   #48 
   Reichstag anyone?  Le Taz Hot   Dec-19-07 11:03 AM   #50 
   great minds...exactly my first thought, as well n/t  kineneb   Dec-19-07 04:42 PM   #113 
   Right now on MSNBC  rockybelt   Dec-19-07 11:06 AM   #51 
   how would they know at this point?  spanone   Dec-19-07 11:07 AM   #52 
      When they checked Cheney's hands he wasn't holding a can of gasoline?  Lone_Star_Dem   Dec-19-07 11:29 AM   #64 
      You think they may be covering something up?  rockybelt   Dec-19-07 01:26 PM   #94 
         Perish the thought!  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:34 AM   #155 
      How did they know the 19 hijackers so quickly?  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:34 AM   #154 
         Unfortunately, there are enough Americans who ARE that stupid.  Wednesdays   Dec-20-07 08:39 AM   #168 
         Didn't they claim to recover one of the hijackers' passports?  TWriterD   Dec-20-07 09:41 AM   #179 
   I'll bet they interviewed the firefighters to make sure they were Bushies, before letting them  hisownpetard   Dec-19-07 11:08 AM   #54 
   Of course!  rucognizant   Dec-20-07 07:36 AM   #163 
   "We were JUST organizing everything to comply with the subpoenas too!!!"  Bluebear   Dec-19-07 11:15 AM   #58 
   The San Diego fires started in Portreo, where Blackwater wants their  AnotherMother4Peace   Dec-19-07 11:18 AM   #59 
   what thugs destroying evidence isn't that an impeachable offense?  alyce douglas   Dec-19-07 11:23 AM   #61 
   Who ya gonna impeach?  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:36 AM   #158 
   I'm surprised a plane didn't fly into it by accident.  undeterred   Dec-19-07 11:24 AM   #62 
   Who could ever imagine that a fire could destroy important documents,  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:37 AM   #159 
   Disgusting.....How fucking OBVIOUS can you be?????  debbierlus   Dec-19-07 11:27 AM   #63 
   I find your last comment most telling,  alyce douglas   Dec-19-07 11:39 AM   #69 
      Ve do not like for you to think, peasant  rockybelt   Dec-19-07 01:27 PM   #96 
   Shredders overheated and caught fire.  progressoid   Dec-19-07 11:31 AM   #65 
   Couldn't manufacture some Arabs and an airplane in time I guess.  BushDespiser12   Dec-19-07 11:34 AM   #68 
   There's still time for them to find a passport or two  havocmom   Dec-19-07 05:19 PM   #119 
   Don't worry! They'll assign the crack investigators who worked on the Anthrax Attacks  Ezlivin   Dec-19-07 11:40 AM   #70 
   TOP... men.  tridim   Dec-19-07 11:46 AM   #75 
      Firestarter 2: This time it's executive privilege  Ezlivin   Dec-19-07 11:53 AM   #80 
   holy smoke  bbgrunt   Dec-19-07 11:41 AM   #71 
   Naw, holy smoke is what comes out of Huckster's ass. nt  tridim   Dec-19-07 11:47 AM   #77 
   No words ... No way to grasp their perfidy.  Oregonian   Dec-19-07 11:41 AM   #73 
   You have GOT to be shitting me. Would even they be that obvious??? n/t  timeforarevolution   Dec-19-07 11:47 AM   #76 
   they have been getting away with shit for a long time  alyce douglas   Dec-19-07 11:50 AM   #78 
   Sometimes the best place to hide a thing is in the open  magellan   Dec-19-07 04:53 PM   #114 
   Apparently, yes.  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:38 AM   #160 
   Took a hit for the team and visited FR..  tridim   Dec-19-07 11:51 AM   #79 
   Fire Update!  Bigmack   Dec-19-07 11:58 AM   #82 
   Too funny!  debbierlus   Dec-19-07 12:04 PM   #85 
   This fire might have been caused by terrorists.  Sean Stuart   Dec-19-07 11:59 AM   #83 
   "Evidence??? What evidence.....All we know is we had a FIRE...."  opihimoimoi   Dec-19-07 12:00 PM   #84 
   His ceremonial office, not his work office.  alfredo   Dec-19-07 12:08 PM   #86 
   Perfect place to "store" something he doesn't want in the WH, parhaps? n/t  kgfnally   Dec-19-07 02:22 PM   #102 
      If they still had incriminating evidence, then they are not very good  alfredo   Dec-19-07 02:46 PM   #107 
   Those "people" are brazen.  KitchenWitch   Dec-19-07 12:13 PM   #87 
   won't happen, Kit.  antifaschits   Dec-20-07 07:41 AM   #164 
   Oh, what a coincidence!  book_worm   Dec-19-07 12:51 PM   #89 
   As the Church Lady (Dana Carvey) would say  chemenger   Dec-19-07 12:52 PM   #90 
   They don't have sprinklers?  IMModerate   Dec-19-07 01:11 PM   #92 
   SHOCKING...SHOCKING I TELL YA!  marmar   Dec-19-07 01:26 PM   #95 
   Reichstag Feuer, wieder mal?  kineneb   Dec-19-07 01:33 PM   #98 
   And you are surprised because  malaise   Dec-19-07 02:09 PM   #100 
   HE HAD A METH LAB? nt  zanne   Dec-19-07 02:38 PM   #105 
   Other possibilities ...  Mme. Defarge   Dec-19-07 03:17 PM   #108 
   What a revolting development this is! I am sure that only the most incriminating documents happened  BrklynLiberal   Dec-19-07 03:33 PM   #110 
   Remember the Hoover administration, 1929...  hunter   Dec-19-07 03:46 PM   #111 
   I'm shocked  Lugnut   Dec-19-07 03:51 PM   #112 
   Pardon me while I go find the guy who thought everyone was  walldude   Dec-19-07 04:55 PM   #115 
   If we are really just tin foil fools, there would be catastrophies and accidents  havocmom   Dec-19-07 05:17 PM   #117 
   As soon as I heard about the fire that  mountainvue   Dec-19-07 05:29 PM   #120 
   WHAT? WEREN'T ALL THE IMPORTANT PAPERS in the MAN SIZE SAFE?  Sam Ervin jret   Dec-19-07 05:39 PM   #121 
   anybody check that fat fucker for a zippo?  Donnachaidh   Dec-19-07 06:51 PM   #123 
   How conveeenient.  No Surrender   Dec-19-07 06:53 PM   #124 
   Beats the HELL out of "But Ms. Pelosi, the dog ate my homework." n/t  DCKit   Dec-19-07 07:20 PM   #125 
   My assumption from the first prelimary reporting of the incident.  Pacifist Patriot   Dec-19-07 08:33 PM   #126 
   only a fool would not see something like this coming. cheney*/bush* will spend their last days  Raster   Dec-19-07 11:12 PM   #129 
   Wow - just ANOTHER amazing COINCIDENCE that BENEFITS the WAR CRIMINALS!  TankLV   Dec-19-07 11:33 PM   #131 
   Words cannot describe my hatred for Bush and Cheney.  EOO   Dec-19-07 11:37 PM   #132 
   I despise both of them with all my heart.  mwb970   Dec-20-07 06:40 AM   #161 
   No one could have predicted they'd do ANYTHING to cover their asses.  Oregonian   Dec-19-07 11:46 PM   #133 
   Check out this photo of Cheney - that's a guilty smile...  ScooterFibby   Dec-20-07 12:02 AM   #135 
   The terrorist was Cheney nt  goclark   Dec-20-07 01:03 AM   #136 
   Anybody that doesn't realize the Bush admin is a criminal syndicate  tabasco   Dec-20-07 01:17 AM   #137 
   I'm surprised the dick didn't wait 24 hours to report it. n/t  vickiss   Dec-20-07 01:57 AM   #138 
   WHY is There NO Democratic Response to ANY of Their Destruction of Evidence?  Hidden Stillness   Dec-20-07 02:00 AM   #139 
   What?! You expect them to challenge the Junta?!  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-20-07 09:13 AM   #173 
   Cheneygate?  darthchaosofrspw   Dec-20-07 02:55 AM   #141 
   That's about as good as my dog ate it.  FREEWILL56   Dec-20-07 03:41 AM   #142 
   Democratic Underground Makes the LA Times  kiloman   Dec-20-07 03:41 AM   #143 
   Geaux nradisic, Botany, and gratuitous!!!  Swamp Rat   Dec-20-07 03:46 AM   #146 
   w00t! Free press!  sakabatou   Dec-20-07 03:49 AM   #147 
   Why the beer clinking?  Stewie   Dec-20-07 11:02 AM   #185 
   Great job, DU! n/t  Tatiana   Dec-20-07 11:09 AM   #187 
   he'll do anything  barbtries   Dec-20-07 03:46 AM   #145 
   Above the law, beneath contempt  rambler_american   Dec-20-07 05:51 AM   #149 
   They really do think we're that gullible  tavalon   Dec-20-07 06:32 AM   #153 
   Yes. They do.  Tyler Durden   Dec-20-07 06:35 AM   #156 
   my theory - shredder overheated... n/t  radfringe   Dec-20-07 06:36 AM   #157 
   Great Oliphant cartoon!  TorchesAndPitchforks   Dec-20-07 08:13 AM   #166 
   Pelosi now has another out..Impeachment can't be on the table if the table burned to ashes...  paparush   Dec-20-07 08:45 AM   #169 
   "...fire was IN Cheney's offices", exactly how many offices does Cheney have?  whistle   Dec-20-07 09:09 AM   #171 
   Tricky Dick Nixon is cackling from his corner of hell.  yellowcanine   Dec-20-07 09:10 AM   #172 
   What blatant bullshit  HeeBGBz   Dec-20-07 09:25 AM   #174 
   He's practicing for when he burns in hell.  graywarrior   Dec-20-07 09:26 AM   #175 
   I'm sure Veep is disappointed there were no casualties.  npincus   Dec-20-07 09:38 AM   #178 
   hope those firefighters were also looking for "Un-American, suspicious materials" nt  nightrain   Dec-20-07 10:07 AM   #180 
   thats what i thought when I heard it on the news  focusfan   Dec-20-07 10:11 AM   #181 
   I said it before and I will say it again...  jasonc   Dec-20-07 10:14 AM   #182 
 
Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:23 AM
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1. Building Seven?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:23 AM
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2. There's video at CNN
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 12:02 AM
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134. Not anymore - they killed the link.
Bastards.
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:23 AM
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3. I saw this coming.
I think we all did. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:09 AM
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56. Oops, sorry, all the documents have gone up in flames!!!!
melted hard drives, oh dear!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 10:17 AM
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183. That must be the modern day equivalent to "the dog ate my homework".
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 08:15 AM
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167. Ultimately even that cloud has a silver lining...
At the very least it means they still fear the machinations of government. They do not have ful control, and that's a good thing.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 10:26 AM
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184. Agreed.
As soon as I saw a headline yesterday linking the fire to Cheney's office area I knew what was coming. There are only two things as corrupt as the executive branch of this administration: the legislative branch and the judicial branch. Canada is looking better all the time.

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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:24 AM
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4. ..and still DUers ask which Repug is the least loathsome!
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:03 AM
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49. When the best of them
is still a racist, darwinian-capitalist (libertarian), who thinks the Civil Rights Act should never have been passed. . . it's like looking for the most edible morsel in a septic tank.
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:27 PM
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103. I'm very sorry for your loss.
I noticed your signature line, and I assume that he was your brother, husband, or someone you loved. I'm sorry.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 03:44 AM
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144. great analogy
eh. perfectly apt.
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Cobalt-60 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 07:52 AM
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165. mmmm Septic Truffles
Breakfast of Rovians
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:24 AM
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5. I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
:sarcasm:
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kitty1 (772 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 05:58 PM
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122. So these docs don't have back up copies somewhere in case
something like this happens. Nothing on disc stored away. Hard to believe they wouldn't have duplicates made of vital papers like this and put in another location.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 08:54 PM
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127. Bushies don't believe in digital technologies
Analog is king. Paper is God. Too easy to make copies with digital technologies.

If erasable tapes and flammable paper were good enough for Nixon, then by GOD, it's good enough for us.
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 04:00 AM
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148. Yeah, one would think they'd have backup copies, just in case...somewhere?
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 04:10 AM by DianaForRussFeingold
Say, maybe a cave :hide: you know, just for safe keeping... ;-)
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radfringe (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:24 AM
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6. yeah, the shredder short circuited... n/t
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:50 AM
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35. Nah! It Overheated!
There was no fault in the shredder. It's just got too hot from overuse.
The Professor
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radfringe (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:08 AM
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53. and bush didn't know about it until he heard about it on the news....n/t
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:08 AM
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55. LOL! Good One (eom)
.
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radfringe (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:14 AM
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57. he'll probably refer to it as SHREDtaneous Combustation
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:41 PM
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106. Well you know those Chinese shredders
aren't the best, someone probably used a lighter gage wire to cut corners. I bet dead eye custom ordered the power cords.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 05:18 PM
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118. Or maybe it was made in China!
:hide:

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 01:31 PM
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97. Whoops, sorry Up in Smoke!! sorry, no evidence...o well
this is so obvious
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 05:04 PM
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116. That's exactly what I said when I saw this.
There was an electrical short. I'd bet the shredders did it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:25 AM
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7. perfect!!!! you can hear them now....'sorry documents were destroyed in fire'.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:27 AM
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8. Just heard Secret Service is stopping fire investigators from
examining the area! :mad:

(as heard on the Stephanie Miller show)
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:36 AM
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15. I was hoping some patriotic firefighters would accidentally retrieve some documents nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:45 AM
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28. sorry no, these "firefighters" were no doubt handpicked by moron* and/or chaney. nt
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:02 AM
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47. It seemed like every firefighter in the city was called out..
there was a constant stream of trucks heading that way for over 1/2 an hour.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 AM
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72. Oh I'm sure...
but having been a fireman, I know for a fact that any government building fire of any sort is always investigated and for the secret service to put a halt to an investigation is completely suspicious.

they know.
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 PM
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88. There are functioning fireplaces in that building..
I'm not sure if they are still used or not, but it would be an easy explanation. Of course a "few" file boxes may have been "sitting too close" to the fire.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 12:59 PM
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91. ...
dickhead: errrr, flunky, move that storage box over there, it's in my way...

flunky: yes, mr vp...ummm...

dickhead: what is it now?

flunky: isn't that a little close to the fireplace?

dickhead: look, I say it's in my way and you move it, okay?

flunky: yes, sir...

the flunky moves the heavy storage box.

flunky: ooff!

dickhead: a little more...

flunky: but sir...

dickhead: shut the fuck up, move it!

flunky: yes, sir...

dickhead: a little more...

flunky, begins to say something but thinks better of it. He shoves the box.

dickhead: just a little more...good!

flunky: oh my god!! It's on fire!!! I'll get an extinguisher!!!

dickhead: the hell you will, those documents are toast there is no saving them now. heh heh..

flunky: you're laughing?

dickhead: never confuse laughing with rejoicing, you fool!! they are almost crisp...now you may call the fire dept! hahahahaha!!!!

flunky: you really are darth vader aren't you?

dickhead: thank you!
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:09 PM
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99. the source of the fire may never be known
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:29 PM
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130. I EXPECT THE MOST LOATHESOME ACTIONS
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 11:31 PM by YEBBA
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 10:30 AM
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9. Who gets to be the first to say
Reichstag?


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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:35 AM
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14. I do, apparently.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:45 AM
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29. Like someone actually needs to say it anymore...nt
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:28 PM
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104. Missed my chance, it seems
But I bet most of the people who know what the term means are thinking it.
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IDemo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:32 AM
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10. Somehow apropos for this crew to attempt to burn down the White House n/t
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LeftHander (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:33 AM
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11. I believe Arson qualifies as a "high crime".....nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:32 AM
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66. destroying evidence would that count as an impeachable offense.
SOB's.
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ExPatLeftist (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 07:09 AM
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162. Of course not!
There is only ONE impeachable offense - and that is getting a consensual blowjob...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:33 AM
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12. There's nothing they won't do to avoid being caught. They are criminals.
I wonder when we'll start treating them as such.
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:34 AM
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13. Would they stoop that low? Of course they would!
MOTHERFUCKING CRIMINALS!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 10:36 AM
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16. Did the shredder short out?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 08:50 AM
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170. His dog was sick...
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 08:50 AM by Jeff In Milwaukee
or he's doing the Adkins thing. Whatever.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:36 AM
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17. Is The Dick pulling a "Milton"?
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:12 PM
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101. Hey. I want that red stapler!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 02:34 AM
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140. you can get your own...
or something like it... lol
http://www.cafepress.com/mystapler


ya know, hearing this story just screams criminality! They KNOW we know they're destroying documents, but they're doing it because they know if they don't their asses are grass - hello senators & congressional reps - can we PLEASE get high crimes hearing to at least LOOK into this awful mess!?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:36 AM
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18. Recall Ollie North talking about "shredding" during Iran/Contra cover up n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:37 AM
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19. WTF?Updated at 6:23 PM
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 10:37 AM
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20. you reckon they the congress critters will wake up to whats going on now,
but something tells me not though
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:47 AM
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31. oh look brittneys sister is prego!!
:banghead:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:51 AM
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36. The BFEE is the only family more fucked up than the Spears family
TMZ should set up operations in DC.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:52 AM
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37. And DU has a thread about it!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:25 AM
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150. You think they don't know already, haven't known for quite a while?
That's precious, so sweet and innocent. I miss those days.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:38 AM
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21. Funny, ain't it? Bush's TANG records were also "destroyed by fire"
They've run **this** scam before.

These people make the Mafia look playful.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:41 AM
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25. "Smirk, smirk, smirk." - Commander AWOL
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:40 AM
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22. I call for an arson investigation! This administration makes me long for the crimes of Nixon!
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:42 AM
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26. Isn't that so depressingly true?
After Nixon we all thought no White House could be more loathesomely criminal. How wrong we were. Like cockroaches, they just went underground for a while.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:58 AM
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45. No --- after the pardon, it was obvious that things weren't going to be straightened out ---
Nixon was just ONE of those criminals who have occupied the WH and provided cover-ups.
He's the only one who they would have permitted to succeed LBJ --

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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:01 AM
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46. It's been a slippery slope since JFK's murder...
the question is, when do we get to the bottom? Is this it? I certainly hope we can't get any lower, but you never know.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:22 AM
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60. Well, they're aging -- Arlen Specter still with us; should be in jail--!!
..but as we can see from Shrub, the younger generation is moving up and perhaps even more
brutal and ignorant than what we've had before?

Cheney and Rumsfeld, I presume, are the originals ---

As we can see now --- only Nixon could have succeeded LBJ --

Had RFK made it -- or later, Muskie, McGovern we might have been able to investigate and move these people out.

Things have just gotten way more complicated as the criminal acts and the need for coverups has grown.

Now we're dealing with the threat of a privatized military!!!




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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 03:26 PM
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109. It's been a slippery slope since Lincoln's assassination, imho. I tend
to take the Gore Vidal "long view" though.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:11 PM
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128. Bingo that is when our government lost all credibility
by not asking any hard questions and just let it slide...murder most foul...and the interminable cover up after cover up. The shadows have gotten very practiced at it....they seem to realize they are to unspeakable for any anyone to speak about and will never really delve for the horrendous truth.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:34 AM
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67. Cheney has been planning this for a long time
isn't it way past the time to impeach his a$$.
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 01:24 PM
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As much as I was shocked by this claim when I first heard of it, the crimes of the Bush
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 01:26 PM by FVZA_Colonel
Administration are truly worse then Watergate. For all of Nixon's paranoia, megalomania, and downright evil policies even he was never so reckless with national security at its most basic level.
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 01:24 PM
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93. Self Delete.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 01:26 PM by FVZA_Colonel
Accidental double post.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:40 AM
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23. This Was Predictable
Like clockwork.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:28 AM
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151. Yep, Reichstag, check.
When is the night of the long knives. Damn, don't these cockroaches know any other playbooks?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:40 AM
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24. I bet the fire was inside his man-sized safe. That mo-fo. Independent Prosecutor Now! nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:42 AM
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27. LOLOLOLOL!!!
I guess pelosi and reid need to have it engraved on a bronze plaque that chaney needs to be impeached.

I've gone passed pissed to being amused at the comical absurdity of the whole situation.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:46 AM
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30. Indeed, It's Beyond Beyond At This Point. It's Farcical In It's Obviousness
It's a cartoon. This can't be reality, no one would beieve it.
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 09:30 AM
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176. Reminds me of this quote...
"Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad television."

Woody Allen...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 10:47 AM
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32. That was the first thing that I thought of when I heard about the fire
...and I imagine that 95% of DUers thought the same.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:49 AM
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33. Shredder overheated.
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Marr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:50 AM
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34. How can they block fire investigators? This very well could be the scene of a serious crime.
Arson is a crime with serious consequences.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:52 AM
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40. Blocking an investigation is a crime as well, no?
Start arresting Secret Service.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 11:08 AM
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186. Since when has this gang suffered any consequences for blocking anything?
Always hoping for a miracle, though.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:52 AM
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38. Cheney should have known they needed an asbestos-lined trash can. nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 10:52 AM
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39. No effing way will I believe this was an accident.
Time to confiscate his mansize vault.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:53 AM
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41. Maybe he spontaneously combusted
devils do that you know :evilgrin:
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Reader Rabbit (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:55 AM
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81. Nah, Satan stopped by to check in on his minion.
He got pissed when Cheney wasn't there and farted sparks.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:54 AM
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42. color me not surprised..i thought of that immediately..and the friday court date..
..by the White House Attorney's..hell these bastards have killed over 1 million people and destroyed mesapetomia..what is a building that is only from the 1800's..big deal to them..and remember they have refused to give docs to the National Archive..they don't give a rats ass about anything but covering their own criminal asses.

fly
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 09:37 AM
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177. Exactly. WTF cares about the Cradle of Civilization?!
That's one point I always go back to with any wingnuts I encounter--the destruction of Mesopotamia. Their response is usually along the lines of "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Eye-ran." And as long as the Maladministration's collective asses are saved, the OEOB means nothing to them, either.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:54 AM
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43. Now..let's not make DU look silly...
just because Cheney's office catches fire when it looks like he might lose a court fight to keep the documents secret is NO reason to suspect that there was deliberate document destruction.

After all, Cheney is just a humble civil servant trying to serve the American People as honestly as he...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry....I just couldn't keep in character...can I try that again?
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momster (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:43 AM
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74. Take 42...Roll 'Em!
Sure, Junkdrawer. Take all the time you need. We know it's a tough line to say with a straight face.

God, I miss the Daily Show!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:30 AM
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152. I say go for it.
You had it until the middle of the first sentence. Give it another go!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 10:55 AM
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44. Right --- It's Cheney starting to pack up and he's probably taking the advice he gave Nixon ---
put all the tapes on the front lawn of the White House and burn them!!!


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balantz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:02 AM
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48. It's just fucking amazing watching this cabal at work.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:03 AM
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50. Reichstag anyone?
:scared:
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kineneb (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 04:42 PM
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113. great minds...exactly my first thought, as well n/t
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rockybelt (938 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:06 AM
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51. Right now on MSNBC
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 11:07 AM by rockybelt
The crawler says that the Secret Service says there is no sign that the fire was intentionally set. WTF is the secret service doing investigating the cause of a fire. Oh yeah, they're experts at that sort of thing aren't they? They just accidentally poured gasoline in a shredder and damned if it wasn't struck by lightning. Damned the luck.

I can hear the shooter now telling Congress he was just getting all those emails and memos packed up and ready to deliver them. Damned the luck

Come on Kucinich and Wexler, get those impeachment papers printed on asbestos and start the process today!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:07 AM
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52. how would they know at this point?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:29 AM
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64. When they checked Cheney's hands he wasn't holding a can of gasoline?
This early on that would be about all they've had time to investigate.
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rockybelt (938 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 01:26 PM
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94. You think they may be covering something up?
Nah! This forthright administration wouldn't do anything like that would they? Nah :shrug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:34 AM
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155. Perish the thought!
What would make you think something so, so , er, treasonous?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:34 AM
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154. How did they know the 19 hijackers so quickly?
They play us like were stupid.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 08:39 AM
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168. Unfortunately, there are enough Americans who ARE that stupid.
:cry:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 09:41 AM
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179. Didn't they claim to recover one of the hijackers' passports?
Who in God's name would believe that a paper passport could survive that inferno? Oh, wait... I know the answer to this one...
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:08 AM
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54. I'll bet they interviewed the firefighters to make sure they were Bushies, before letting them
near the scene.

This is getting too surreal.
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rucognizant (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-20-07 07:36 AM
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163. Of course!
I remember hearing, yesterday, that the firefighters had to be Accompaniesd by secret service which slowed the process of fighting the fire initially!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:15 AM
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58. "We were JUST organizing everything to comply with the subpoenas too!!!"
I can hear it already.
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AnotherMother4Peace (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:18 AM
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59. The San Diego fires started in Portreo, where Blackwater wants their
training grounds. Where the city counsel was facing recall for allowing Blackwater to come in. Where, after the fires, that city counsel was recalled anyway (by paper ballot), and a new anti-Blackwater board is now in place. Portreo is a pretty conservative place; very quiet, laid back, with tough, back country folk living there.

I wouldn't put anything past the Neo-Cons in the frantic efforts to hang onto power. Fires, mysterious deaths (Pat Tillman), memory loss, lost documents). Desperate people without consciences are capable of horrific things.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:23 AM
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61. what thugs destroying evidence isn't that an impeachable offense?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:36 AM
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158. Who ya gonna impeach?
The mean old fire? Plausible deniability.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:24 AM
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62. I'm surprised a plane didn't fly into it by accident.Updated at 6:47 PM
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:37 AM
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159. Who could ever imagine that a fire could destroy important documents,
irreplaceable documents! :eyes:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:27 AM
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63. Disgusting.....How fucking OBVIOUS can you be?????


It is pathetic. These people are the WORST kind of criminals. And, that is what they are...through & through

EVER crime under the sun. And, what do they get for it. Driving around in limos with every perk in the world as they
plot more destruction.

And, the American people just scratch their heads? What can we do? There are only 300 million of us & a thousand of them.

Surreal.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:39 AM
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69. I find your last comment most telling,
"There are only 300 million of us & a thousand of them".


we could cause some damage couldn't we??? oops, just thinking out loud.........sigh
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rockybelt (938 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 01:27 PM
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96. Ve do not like for you to think, peasant
You vill do vhat ve say!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:31 AM
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65. Shredders overheated and caught fire.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:34 AM
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68. Couldn't manufacture some Arabs and an airplane in time I guess.
Fucking crooks.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 05:19 PM
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119. There's still time for them to find a passport or two
belonging to suspected terrorists.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:40 AM
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70. Don't worry! They'll assign the crack investigators who worked on the Anthrax Attacks
They've got the "best" men on the job, no doubt.

Hell, in a couple of decades we'll hear about the results of their exhaustive investigation.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:46 AM
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75. TOP... men.
It doesn't matter what the official exuse will eventually be, it's obvious to me that Cheney is among other things, an arsonist. That's what we've come to.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:53 AM
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80. Firestarter 2: This time it's executive privilege
N/T
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 AM
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71. holy smoke
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:47 AM
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77. Naw, holy smoke is what comes out of Huckster's ass. nt
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:41 AM
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73. No words ... No way to grasp their perfidy.
:wow:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:47 AM
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76. You have GOT to be shitting me. Would even they be that obvious??? n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:50 AM
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78. they have been getting away with shit for a long time
do you think these thugs even care anymore, and when will they be confiscated and rounded up as criminals, that is the question, until someone does it, they will keep on doing their dirty illegal crimes.
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magellan (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 04:53 PM
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114. Sometimes the best place to hide a thing is in the open
Do that and most everyone thinks "It must be coincidence. They'd never be THAT obvious!"

Oh yes they would.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Dec-20-07 06:38 AM
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160. Apparently, yes.
Frankly it scares me how very little they are trying to cover up their shit these days. They're barely even phoning it in.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:51 AM
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79. Took a hit for the team and visited FR..
There is no late breaking news thread about the fire.

Now why in the world would FR not want to discuss this event? Hmmm.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 11:58 AM
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82. Fire Update!Updated at 10:05 PM
News sources report that immediately before the fire, VP Cheney's dog broke into his office and ate all the relevant transcripts.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 12:04 PM
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85. Too funny!
:rofl:
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Sean Stuart (127 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 11:59 AM
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83. This fire might have been caused by terrorists.
Can I have my own Fox show now?
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 12:00 PM
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84. "Evidence??? What evidence.....All we know is we had a FIRE...."
",,,,,and it was,,,,TOO EASY".............
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 12:08 PM
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86. His ceremonial office, not his work office.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec-19-07 02:22 PM
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102. Perfect place to "store" something he doesn't want in the WH, parhaps? n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Dec-19-07 02:46 PM
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107. If they still had incriminating evidence, then they are not very good
criminals. Remember, it only took Ollie North 24 hours to shred all the evidence in Iran Contra. Meese gave him 24 hours after his announcement of the investigation before he moved to secure the evidence. How long has the three successive AG's given the bush junta?
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