Hamlette
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:04 PM
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| Did 26 ministers sign the constitution? |
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seems like I saw a discussion of this here recently but a search didn't turn it up.
Rollins just said it on CNN re: Huckabee
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:07 PM
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| 1. That's another right wing fundy lie |
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I don't have the proof in front of me but I've read it somewhere. I'll look and get back to you if someone else doesn't beat me to it.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:07 PM
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| 2. Computer says NoOOooo.... |
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And in any case, even if it WERE true, having a bisexual sadomasochist swinger (Benjamin Franklin) sign it would negate it.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:07 PM
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| 3. There were no active clergymen... |
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...at the Constitutional Convention. I know there was at least one retired clergyman there, but I can't remember if there were others.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:11 PM
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| 4. Huckabee wants to be the Prime Minister |
Hamlette
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:12 PM
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| 5. Ah, the answer and a source! ONE was a minister/lawyer |
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and not unsurprisingly, most of the signers were lawyers. Hence the president should be a lawyer? http://www.usconstitution.net/constframedata.html
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Fri Dec-14-07 08:09 PM
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| 9. I wonder if that meme began because they were lawyers, |
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and most universities in the colonies were religiously based, like Harvard. Doesn't mean they were ministers, but they did have to take classes in theology - as well as Latin and Greek and what-all.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:13 PM
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| 6. I believe a number of them had training in theology |
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but I don't think twenty-six were actually ministers . . . about half were lawyers (or had trained in the law).
Gordon Woods' Revolutionary Characters is a pretty good look at the founders, if you're interested.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:21 PM
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| 7. Define what you mean by "sign the constitution" |
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The constitution wasn't "signed" in the same manner as the Declaration of Independence was signed, with John Hancocks and all that. I've never seen a copy of the constitution with signatures. The constitution was "ratified" by states (states' legislatures, I think, although it might have been by direct vote or convention in some states). I suppose the members of the Constitutional Convention "signed" it in some sense, but not in the same manner as the Declaration.
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Fri Dec-14-07 07:58 PM
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| 8. I think they did sign it |
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yes, it had to be ratified by the states (colonies) but the members of the const. convention signed it. http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/freedom/consti...
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Fri Dec-14-07 08:41 PM
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George Washington Virginia 2 George Read Delaware 3 Gunning Bedford, Jr. Delaware 4 John Dickinson³ Delaware 5 Richard Bassett Delaware - a devout Methodist and held religious meetings at Bohemia Manor and supported the church financially. 6 Jacob Broom Delaware - lay leader at the Old Swedes Church 7 James McHenry Maryland 8 Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer Maryland 9 Daniel Carroll³ Maryland - brother of a Catholic bishop 10 John Blair Virginia 11 James Madison Jr. Virginia 12 William Blount North Carolina 13 Richard Dobbs Spaight North Carolina 14 Hugh Williamson North Carolina 15 John Rutledge South Carolina 16 Charles Cotesworth Pinckney South Carolina 17 Charles Pinckney South Carolina 18 Pierce Butler South Carolina 19 William Few Georgia - devout Methodist 20 Abraham Baldwin Georgia - This one was clergy 21 John Langdon New Hampshire - devoutly religious 22 Nicholas Gilman New Hampshire 23 Nathaniel Gorham Massachusetts 24 Rufus King Massachusetts 25 William Samuel Johnson Connecticut 26 Roger Sherman¹ Connecticut 27 Alexander Hamilton New York 28 William Livingston New Jersey 29 David Brearley New Jersey 30 William Paterson New Jersey 31 Jonathan Dayton New Jersey 32 Benjamin Franklin Pennsylvania 33 Thomas Mifflin Pennsylvania 34 Robert Morris² Pennsylvania 35 George Clymer Pennsylvania 36 Thomas Fitzsimons Pennsylvania 37 Jared Ingersoll Pennsylvania 38 James Wilson Pennsylvania 39 Gouverneur Morris Pennsylvania
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Fri Dec-14-07 08:44 PM
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| 11. They were mostly deists, as am I. nt |
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