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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:10 PM
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In what order would you rank the U.S. Presidents since WWII
From best to worst (here are my rankings):

Truman
Johnson
Eisenhower
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
Ford
Nixon
Reagan
Bush I
Bush II
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:14 PM
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1. interesting
Why do you put Truman at No. 1? He is usually lost in the haze of history.

I'll have to think about this list.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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4. Oh I don't know about that. Most historians rank Truman as a top-10 president of all-time.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:24 PM
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10. You mean the haze
of mushroom clouds over Japan?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:18 PM
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2. Johnson killed 50,000 us troops and millions of VN
on a trumped-up war that he could not keep his hands off of mismanaging*. He nurtured the militaryindustrial complex that Ike warned of. And you have him at #2?

* ok, roughly half the casualties were under Nixon, but Johnson created the mess.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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6. Johnson also saved millions of Americans at home with his social programs.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:59 PM
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19. I thought so at the time
but have come to believe that he was more cynical - that he pushed the "Great Society" only to appease the masses whilst feeding the m-i-c. Or maybe he was sincere in them and just f'd up royally.
Regardless, he is one whom I have grown to respect even less over time. I still have an oh-so-vivid image of his face filling the TV screen promising "ah won't send amurcan boahs to faht some asyun woah," calling Goldwater the hawk, getting elected, and then off they all went. Some of my friends didn't come back. One came back but doesn't know who he is; another is a quadriplegic. I tried to balance my visceral hatred of his lying face (I did meet him once) with the good of the social programs. I gave him credit for a while, but the more I think about it, the less I believe he had a decent bone in his body.

Hell of a note that it is damned hard to name a really admirable pres since FDR. Carter wins hands down for having his heart in the right place.

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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:18 PM
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3. I've got to put Kennedy
near the top, if only because of the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think he was the right man in the right place at the right time.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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5. Why is Carter so high up?
Is this his presidential performance, or performance after leaving office?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:22 PM
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7. My list:
Kennedy
Carter
Clinton
Truman
Eisenhower
Ford
Johnson
Bush I
Nixon
Reagan
Bush II
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:22 PM
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8. OK
Carter
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Clinton
Truman
Ford
Reagan
Bush II
Nixon
Bush I

Some explanation: I based mine on the individual, not their accomplishments - like what would these people do if they had the full ability to pursue their agenda. After the first three I consider the rest to be pretty much shit.

I place Ford, Reagan and Bush II ahead of Bush I and Nixon because I think the first three are/were simply front-men - useful morons - while the last two are/were intelligent, evil and actually in charge.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:24 PM
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9. Here's mine on a scale of 1-10
Ooops. None of them made it to plus side of the column.


See Lord Acton's famous axiom for explanation.

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:26 PM
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11. Here's my Presidential stack
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 02:27 PM by maddiejoan

Clinton
Kennedy
Carter
Johnson
Truman
Eisenhower
Ford
Nixon
Reagan
Bush I
Bush II
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:33 PM
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12. And mine, although I don't know what your criteria is for 'best' and 'worst'.
Kennedy
Clinton
Truman
Carter
Eisenhower
Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Bush I
Reagan
Bush II
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:38 PM
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13. My rankings
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 02:40 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
This is hard, because all have baggage of some sort or another.

Johnson-because of his Great Society Programs
Carter-because of his work on Middle East peace
Truman-because of his integration of the Armed Forces
Eisenhower-because of his distrust of the military-industrial complex
Kennedy-because of his use of diplomacy and not arms during the Cuban Missile Crisis
Clinton-use of diplomacy more than war (edited to put him in)
Ford-a basically decent person whose main flaw was pardoning Nixon
The rest have no redeeming qualities in my book:
Nixon
Bush I
Reagan
Bush II
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:40 PM
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14. and mine
Clinton II
Johnson
Eisenhower
Truman
Clinton I
Carter
Kennedy
Ford
Reagan
Bush I
Shrub don't get ranked because he is rank.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:44 PM
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15. hmmm ...
Kennedy (or Truman)
Truman
Carter
Clinton
Johnson - that damn war! otherwise #1
Eisenhower
Ford
Bush I
Nixon
Reagan
PsychoDumbFuck
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:44 PM
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16. In order,
Truman
Kennedy
Eisenhower
Nixon
Clinton
Carter
Johnson
Ford
Bush I
Reagan
Bush II
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:16 PM
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17. Any body that lived thru the Cuba Missile Crisis has to put JFK first
JFK......the best of the best
Truman...he was underestimated
Carter...he was underestimated
Clinton..the economy was bombing
Johnson...he stood up for Civil Rights
Ike.......tried to be bi-partisan, hated war.
Nixon.....he was the best foreign policy president of most
Ford......caretaker but ok
Reagan....the most overrated piece of crap going
Bush the elder...wonder what happened to Iran-Contra
Bush the junior...slime can't come close to describing him
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:02 PM
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20. I like your ranking pretty well
I'd probably transpose 2 and 3, move Johnson down below Ford, and raygun below bushI
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:20 PM
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18. Bush II is the worst , counting both the 20th and 21st centuries. He is also
is a top contender for worst of all time. We can be very proud of Truman, who was kept in the dark by Roosevelt, but performed with honest common sense and with solid democratic (and Democratic) instincts. Eisenhower deserves great credit for warning against the military-industrial complex (a warning which has been ignored ever since.)Vietnam hangs heavily on the Johnson Presidency and drags it down.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:08 PM
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21. Here we go...
Kennedy
Clinton
Eisenhower
Truman
Carter
Johnson
Ford
Nixon
Bush I
Reagan
Commander Bunnypants
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