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Fri Dec-14-07 02:10 PM
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| In what order would you rank the U.S. Presidents since WWII |
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From best to worst (here are my rankings):
Truman Johnson Eisenhower Carter Clinton Kennedy Ford Nixon Reagan Bush I Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:14 PM
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Why do you put Truman at No. 1? He is usually lost in the haze of history.
I'll have to think about this list.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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| 4. Oh I don't know about that. Most historians rank Truman as a top-10 president of all-time. |
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:24 PM
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of mushroom clouds over Japan?
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:18 PM
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| 2. Johnson killed 50,000 us troops and millions of VN |
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on a trumped-up war that he could not keep his hands off of mismanaging*. He nurtured the militaryindustrial complex that Ike warned of. And you have him at #2?
* ok, roughly half the casualties were under Nixon, but Johnson created the mess.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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| 6. Johnson also saved millions of Americans at home with his social programs. |
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Fri Dec-14-07 05:59 PM
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| 19. I thought so at the time |
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but have come to believe that he was more cynical - that he pushed the "Great Society" only to appease the masses whilst feeding the m-i-c. Or maybe he was sincere in them and just f'd up royally. Regardless, he is one whom I have grown to respect even less over time. I still have an oh-so-vivid image of his face filling the TV screen promising "ah won't send amurcan boahs to faht some asyun woah," calling Goldwater the hawk, getting elected, and then off they all went. Some of my friends didn't come back. One came back but doesn't know who he is; another is a quadriplegic. I tried to balance my visceral hatred of his lying face (I did meet him once) with the good of the social programs. I gave him credit for a while, but the more I think about it, the less I believe he had a decent bone in his body.
Hell of a note that it is damned hard to name a really admirable pres since FDR. Carter wins hands down for having his heart in the right place.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:18 PM
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| 3. I've got to put Kennedy |
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near the top, if only because of the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think he was the right man in the right place at the right time.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:21 PM
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| 5. Why is Carter so high up? |
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Is this his presidential performance, or performance after leaving office?
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:22 PM
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Kennedy Carter Clinton Truman Eisenhower Ford Johnson Bush I Nixon Reagan Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:22 PM
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Carter Eisenhower Kennedy Johnson Clinton Truman Ford Reagan Bush II Nixon Bush I
Some explanation: I based mine on the individual, not their accomplishments - like what would these people do if they had the full ability to pursue their agenda. After the first three I consider the rest to be pretty much shit.
I place Ford, Reagan and Bush II ahead of Bush I and Nixon because I think the first three are/were simply front-men - useful morons - while the last two are/were intelligent, evil and actually in charge.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:24 PM
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| 9. Here's mine on a scale of 1-10 |
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Ooops. None of them made it to plus side of the column.
See Lord Acton's famous axiom for explanation.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:26 PM
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| 11. Here's my Presidential stack |
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Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 02:27 PM by maddiejoan
Clinton Kennedy Carter Johnson Truman Eisenhower Ford Nixon Reagan Bush I Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:33 PM
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| 12. And mine, although I don't know what your criteria is for 'best' and 'worst'. |
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Kennedy Clinton Truman Carter Eisenhower Johnson Nixon Ford Bush I Reagan Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:38 PM
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Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 02:40 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
This is hard, because all have baggage of some sort or another.
Johnson-because of his Great Society Programs Carter-because of his work on Middle East peace Truman-because of his integration of the Armed Forces Eisenhower-because of his distrust of the military-industrial complex Kennedy-because of his use of diplomacy and not arms during the Cuban Missile Crisis Clinton-use of diplomacy more than war (edited to put him in) Ford-a basically decent person whose main flaw was pardoning Nixon The rest have no redeeming qualities in my book: Nixon Bush I Reagan Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:40 PM
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Clinton II Johnson Eisenhower Truman Clinton I Carter Kennedy Ford Reagan Bush I Shrub don't get ranked because he is rank.
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:44 PM
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Kennedy (or Truman) Truman Carter Clinton Johnson - that damn war! otherwise #1 Eisenhower Ford Bush I Nixon Reagan PsychoDumbFuck
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Fri Dec-14-07 02:44 PM
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Truman Kennedy Eisenhower Nixon Clinton Carter Johnson Ford Bush I Reagan Bush II
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Fri Dec-14-07 03:16 PM
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| 17. Any body that lived thru the Cuba Missile Crisis has to put JFK first |
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JFK......the best of the best Truman...he was underestimated Carter...he was underestimated Clinton..the economy was bombing Johnson...he stood up for Civil Rights Ike.......tried to be bi-partisan, hated war. Nixon.....he was the best foreign policy president of most Ford......caretaker but ok Reagan....the most overrated piece of crap going Bush the elder...wonder what happened to Iran-Contra Bush the junior...slime can't come close to describing him
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Fri Dec-14-07 06:02 PM
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| 20. I like your ranking pretty well |
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I'd probably transpose 2 and 3, move Johnson down below Ford, and raygun below bushI
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Fri Dec-14-07 03:20 PM
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| 18. Bush II is the worst , counting both the 20th and 21st centuries. He is also |
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is a top contender for worst of all time. We can be very proud of Truman, who was kept in the dark by Roosevelt, but performed with honest common sense and with solid democratic (and Democratic) instincts. Eisenhower deserves great credit for warning against the military-industrial complex (a warning which has been ignored ever since.)Vietnam hangs heavily on the Johnson Presidency and drags it down.
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Fri Dec-14-07 06:08 PM
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Kennedy Clinton Eisenhower Truman Carter Johnson Ford Nixon Bush I Reagan Commander Bunnypants
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