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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:17 PM
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Nothing will change, no matter who gets elected!!!
In 5 years, when we are electing the next next president, we will still be in Iraq.
We will still be fighting neocons dastardly, underhanded, below-the-belt tactics, yes, I think that means Ann Coulter, Rush, Bill O'Reilly will still be around and influential on the moron masses.
Oil prices will continue to rise.
The middle class will have eroded further.
The prisoner's at Guantanamo Bay will still be prisoner's.
Healthcare will still be run insurance companies,
Our educational system will still be sub-standard by teaching to tests rather than teaching critical thinking.
The dollar's value will continue to decline.
More jobs will have gone overseas.
Illegal immigration will still be a problem.
The great social security debate will still be in full swing.
The white house will still lie to the American people.
Our government will still illegally wiretap us.
The media will have consolidated further while news quality will continue to deteriorate.
Our wild salmon runs will be almost gone completely and forever!!!
Our forests will still be clear cut!!!
Global warming will accelerate. Many thousands will be displaced or killed as oceans flood coastal communities.
Thousands more species we never knew existed will become extinct.

The real slap in the face to what I've listed above, is we've known about most of these problems for almost 30 years. 30 years people and nothing has changed, except for the worse. We could literally replace every single elected politician in this country and nothing would change. You can't fix a piece of a broken puzzle, put the fixed piece back in and expect it not to break. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity and this country is clinically, and pathologically insane.

So Merry Christmas this year, because these days are numbered.






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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:18 PM
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1. Meh. nt
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:19 PM
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2. Ditto.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:19 PM
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3. sounds like another vote for putting up signs on the border.
saying "abandon all hope, ye who enter here"

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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:24 PM
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7. Not the border of this country though,
Lets put a giant billboard of it about 500 miles up in the atmosphere
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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11. good point, making the whole world seem like the entrance to hell
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:30 PM by zonmoy
might just make the whole world force the changes we need. although part of the reason I was thinking the borders of our country would be that it would actually be a doable protest when the dlc and other democrat leaders fuck us over again.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:20 PM
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4. Yeah but
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:23 PM by CJCRANE
at least it's Friday.

:toast:

On edit: Actually I think a Democrat in the WH will make a big difference.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:21 PM
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5. Not so much.
I view this election as a major turning point.

No matter which Democrat wins, they are going to be changing a lot of things for the better.

I don't think we've been at this big a crossoads since 1930.
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:23 PM
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6. I would like to believe that, truly I would,
but history has shown people almost always chose what's worst for them. And I think we were at that same crossroads when we impeached Nixon.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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10. I think this one's even bigger.
But if you are right --I certainly don't want another "nice but brilliant" President in there.

I loved loved loved Carter, but he allowed himself to be completely savaged by the Republicans, and this is my fear about an Obama Presidency.

We need a bulldozer in there.

That's either Clinton, or Edwards.
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Solar Power Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:35 PM
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13. Sometimes it is not true.
People do not always choose what is worse for them..Occasionally, the choice turns out positive.
l. Lincon
2. Roosevelt
3. Truman
4. Kennedy...(Kennedy won Illinois by 8000 votes, a very small percentage, imagine the Cuban Missile Crisis with Nixon)

True, sometimes these changes are accidental, but they are in the end positive.....solar
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:24 PM
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8. You probably shouldn't vote, then. In fact, it would be okay with me if you never come out of
your basement again.
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:34 PM
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12. Wow, aren't you the clever one,
I've voted in every election I could, I write my senators and congressman weekly, I attend seminars, I have volunteered and donated to campaigns. And not a goddam fucking thing has changed. So keep your witty rhetoric to yourself, Hippie. We all need to wake the fuck up to how the whole system is rigged against the regular good people and in case you didn't read the post we have had these problems for 30 FUCKING YEARS.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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9. Then why bother posting, chuckles?
Shit on your own parade. Leave ours alone.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:36 PM
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14. SCOTUS will change.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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15. Curl up in a little ball then.
Some of us want to keep fighting, m'kay?
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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16. We Had Prisoners At Guantanamo 30 Years Ago?
I think you are flat out wrong when you say we had prisoners 30 years ago at Guantanamo.

And I also think you are wrong when you say that the dollar has been declining for 30 years.

If the years 1993 - 2001 taught us anything, it is that having the right person in the White House CAN make a difference.

A BIG difference.
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM
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18. I said most not all.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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17. Did you say that same thing back in 2000? I know Nader kept
saying that, but it sure got a hell of a lot worse since Shrub, don't ya think?
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:40 PM
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20. Nope, I didn't, not in 2000, but I did in 2004
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:48 PM
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23. Well, I think it WOULD have made a difference is Kerry would
have won in 04, and things HAVE gotten WORSE!

Things are NOT going to change overnight. That's true! There are WAY too many problems for ANY CANDIDATE to fix in a short time. I DO believe that whoever you think is the worst Dem candidate would be 100% better than the best Pub!

Beyond that, this is Primary time, and it's up to each of the voters to decide which candidate they prefer...THEN VOTE!
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:57 PM
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24. If Kerry had won,
We might have left Iraq, and Afghanistan, and we might not have as many prisoners in Gitmo, and we might not be spying on ourselves. But healthcare, schools, the environment, would still be fucked.
I agree though, it would defintely be a more hopeful climate than it is. BTW I will never ever vote for a republican. It's the paradigm they exist in that has exacerbated these problems.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM
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19. awww, you dystopiacs are so cute during the holiday season n/t
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:41 PM
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21. I certainly think so. :)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:44 PM
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22. Cheer down!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:19 PM
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25. I thought there was no difference between Gore and Bush
I was wrong!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:25 PM
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26. Ah, yaas!1 We might as well jump off a cliff or lock ourselves into a castle &
eat, drink, and orgy ourselves to death!1
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:38 PM
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27. And people will still misuse apostrophes
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 03:39 PM by DireStrike
An apostrophe is used in two cases:

1) Possessive: I saw Jim's car.
2) Contraction: I can't. I won't! Don't make me say it again!

It is not ever used with a plural word, unless that happens to be possessive also.
WRONG: The prisoner's at guantanamo bay will still be prisoner's.
RIGHT: Whose is this? It is the prisoner's.
RIGHT: I am very concerned about all the prisoners' rights.

A confusing case is its/it's, because one meaning is possessive and one is a contraction. You ONLY use it with the contraction form of its.

RIGHT: It's me!
WRONG: It's legs fell off!

This is because possessive pronouns never use apostrophes. Writing "it's legs fell off" is like writing "his' legs fell off".


Also, an omitted apostrophe is far less distressing than one where it doesn't belong. If you aren't sure, leave it out... at least on the internet. Otherwise I'd look it up.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:42 PM
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28. Get the fuck out of here.
I plan to.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:45 PM
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29. You are right. We should make no attempt to improve anything.
No, I don't believe that. While many or most of your predictions may come true, we've still got to do everything we can to change our terrible political situation.
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