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Fri Dec-14-07 01:17 PM
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| Nothing will change, no matter who gets elected!!! |
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In 5 years, when we are electing the next next president, we will still be in Iraq. We will still be fighting neocons dastardly, underhanded, below-the-belt tactics, yes, I think that means Ann Coulter, Rush, Bill O'Reilly will still be around and influential on the moron masses. Oil prices will continue to rise. The middle class will have eroded further. The prisoner's at Guantanamo Bay will still be prisoner's. Healthcare will still be run insurance companies, Our educational system will still be sub-standard by teaching to tests rather than teaching critical thinking. The dollar's value will continue to decline. More jobs will have gone overseas. Illegal immigration will still be a problem. The great social security debate will still be in full swing. The white house will still lie to the American people. Our government will still illegally wiretap us. The media will have consolidated further while news quality will continue to deteriorate. Our wild salmon runs will be almost gone completely and forever!!! Our forests will still be clear cut!!! Global warming will accelerate. Many thousands will be displaced or killed as oceans flood coastal communities. Thousands more species we never knew existed will become extinct.
The real slap in the face to what I've listed above, is we've known about most of these problems for almost 30 years. 30 years people and nothing has changed, except for the worse. We could literally replace every single elected politician in this country and nothing would change. You can't fix a piece of a broken puzzle, put the fixed piece back in and expect it not to break. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity and this country is clinically, and pathologically insane.
So Merry Christmas this year, because these days are numbered.
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blondeatlast |
Dec-14-07 01:18 PM |
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Ditto. |
Neoma |
Dec-14-07 01:19 PM |
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sounds like another vote for putting up signs on the border. |
zonmoy |
Dec-14-07 01:19 PM |
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Not the border of this country though, |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:24 PM |
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good point, making the whole world seem like the entrance to hell |
zonmoy |
Dec-14-07 01:26 PM |
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Yeah but |
CJCRANE |
Dec-14-07 01:20 PM |
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Not so much. |
maddiejoan |
Dec-14-07 01:21 PM |
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I would like to believe that, truly I would, |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:23 PM |
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I think this one's even bigger. |
maddiejoan |
Dec-14-07 01:26 PM |
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Sometimes it is not true. |
Solar Power |
Dec-14-07 01:35 PM |
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You probably shouldn't vote, then. In fact, it would be okay with me if you never come out of |
Idealist Hippie |
Dec-14-07 01:24 PM |
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Wow, aren't you the clever one, |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:34 PM |
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Then why bother posting, chuckles? |
Teaser |
Dec-14-07 01:26 PM |
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SCOTUS will change. |
uppityperson |
Dec-14-07 01:36 PM |
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Curl up in a little ball then. |
LittleClarkie |
Dec-14-07 01:38 PM |
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We Had Prisoners At Guantanamo 30 Years Ago? |
zorahopkins |
Dec-14-07 01:38 PM |
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I said most not all. |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:39 PM |
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Did you say that same thing back in 2000? I know Nader kept |
napi21 |
Dec-14-07 01:38 PM |
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Nope, I didn't, not in 2000, but I did in 2004 |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:40 PM |
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Well, I think it WOULD have made a difference is Kerry would |
napi21 |
Dec-14-07 01:48 PM |
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If Kerry had won, |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:57 PM |
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awww, you dystopiacs are so cute during the holiday season n/t |
cali |
Dec-14-07 01:39 PM |
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I certainly think so. :) |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-14-07 01:41 PM |
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Cheer down! |
chimpsrsmarter |
Dec-14-07 01:44 PM |
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I thought there was no difference between Gore and Bush |
dmordue |
Dec-14-07 03:19 PM |
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Ah, yaas!1 We might as well jump off a cliff or lock ourselves into a castle & |
UTUSN |
Dec-14-07 03:25 PM |
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And people will still misuse apostrophes |
DireStrike |
Dec-14-07 03:38 PM |
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Get the fuck out of here. |
screembloodymurder |
Dec-14-07 03:42 PM |
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You are right. We should make no attempt to improve anything. |
ladjf |
Dec-14-07 05:45 PM |
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:19 PM
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:19 PM
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| 3. sounds like another vote for putting up signs on the border. |
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saying "abandon all hope, ye who enter here"
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:24 PM
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| 7. Not the border of this country though, |
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Lets put a giant billboard of it about 500 miles up in the atmosphere
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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| 11. good point, making the whole world seem like the entrance to hell |
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Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:30 PM by zonmoy
might just make the whole world force the changes we need. although part of the reason I was thinking the borders of our country would be that it would actually be a doable protest when the dlc and other democrat leaders fuck us over again.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:20 PM
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Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:23 PM by CJCRANE
at least it's Friday.  On edit: Actually I think a Democrat in the WH will make a big difference.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:21 PM
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I view this election as a major turning point.
No matter which Democrat wins, they are going to be changing a lot of things for the better.
I don't think we've been at this big a crossoads since 1930.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:23 PM
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but history has shown people almost always chose what's worst for them. And I think we were at that same crossroads when we impeached Nixon.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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| 10. I think this one's even bigger. |
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But if you are right --I certainly don't want another "nice but brilliant" President in there.
I loved loved loved Carter, but he allowed himself to be completely savaged by the Republicans, and this is my fear about an Obama Presidency.
We need a bulldozer in there.
That's either Clinton, or Edwards.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:35 PM
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| 13. Sometimes it is not true. |
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People do not always choose what is worse for them..Occasionally, the choice turns out positive. l. Lincon 2. Roosevelt 3. Truman 4. Kennedy...(Kennedy won Illinois by 8000 votes, a very small percentage, imagine the Cuban Missile Crisis with Nixon)
True, sometimes these changes are accidental, but they are in the end positive.....solar
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:24 PM
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| 8. You probably shouldn't vote, then. In fact, it would be okay with me if you never come out of |
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:34 PM
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| 12. Wow, aren't you the clever one, |
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I've voted in every election I could, I write my senators and congressman weekly, I attend seminars, I have volunteered and donated to campaigns. And not a goddam fucking thing has changed. So keep your witty rhetoric to yourself, Hippie. We all need to wake the fuck up to how the whole system is rigged against the regular good people and in case you didn't read the post we have had these problems for 30 FUCKING YEARS.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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| 9. Then why bother posting, chuckles? |
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Shit on your own parade. Leave ours alone.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:36 PM
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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| 15. Curl up in a little ball then. |
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Some of us want to keep fighting, m'kay?
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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| 16. We Had Prisoners At Guantanamo 30 Years Ago? |
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I think you are flat out wrong when you say we had prisoners 30 years ago at Guantanamo.
And I also think you are wrong when you say that the dollar has been declining for 30 years.
If the years 1993 - 2001 taught us anything, it is that having the right person in the White House CAN make a difference.
A BIG difference.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:38 PM
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| 17. Did you say that same thing back in 2000? I know Nader kept |
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saying that, but it sure got a hell of a lot worse since Shrub, don't ya think?
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:40 PM
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| 20. Nope, I didn't, not in 2000, but I did in 2004 |
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:48 PM
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| 23. Well, I think it WOULD have made a difference is Kerry would |
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have won in 04, and things HAVE gotten WORSE!
Things are NOT going to change overnight. That's true! There are WAY too many problems for ANY CANDIDATE to fix in a short time. I DO believe that whoever you think is the worst Dem candidate would be 100% better than the best Pub!
Beyond that, this is Primary time, and it's up to each of the voters to decide which candidate they prefer...THEN VOTE!
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:57 PM
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We might have left Iraq, and Afghanistan, and we might not have as many prisoners in Gitmo, and we might not be spying on ourselves. But healthcare, schools, the environment, would still be fucked. I agree though, it would defintely be a more hopeful climate than it is. BTW I will never ever vote for a republican. It's the paradigm they exist in that has exacerbated these problems.
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM
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| 19. awww, you dystopiacs are so cute during the holiday season n/t |
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Fri Dec-14-07 01:41 PM
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| 21. I certainly think so. :) |
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| 25. I thought there was no difference between Gore and Bush |
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| 26. Ah, yaas!1 We might as well jump off a cliff or lock ourselves into a castle & |
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eat, drink, and orgy ourselves to death!1
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Fri Dec-14-07 03:38 PM
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| 27. And people will still misuse apostrophes |
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Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 03:39 PM by DireStrike
An apostrophe is used in two cases:
1) Possessive: I saw Jim's car. 2) Contraction: I can't. I won't! Don't make me say it again!
It is not ever used with a plural word, unless that happens to be possessive also. WRONG: The prisoner's at guantanamo bay will still be prisoner's. RIGHT: Whose is this? It is the prisoner's. RIGHT: I am very concerned about all the prisoners' rights.
A confusing case is its/it's, because one meaning is possessive and one is a contraction. You ONLY use it with the contraction form of its.
RIGHT: It's me! WRONG: It's legs fell off!
This is because possessive pronouns never use apostrophes. Writing "it's legs fell off" is like writing "his' legs fell off".
Also, an omitted apostrophe is far less distressing than one where it doesn't belong. If you aren't sure, leave it out... at least on the internet. Otherwise I'd look it up.
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Fri Dec-14-07 03:42 PM
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| 28. Get the fuck out of here. |
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Fri Dec-14-07 05:45 PM
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| 29. You are right. We should make no attempt to improve anything. |
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No, I don't believe that. While many or most of your predictions may come true, we've still got to do everything we can to change our terrible political situation.
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