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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:27 PM
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Creationist stabs evolutionist after argument
Family values Down Under

Evolution vs creation row ends in stabbing

A FRUIT-picking trip to southern New South Wales ended in the death of a Scottish backpacker who became embroiled in a bizarre row about creationism and evolution.

English backpacker Alexander Christian York, 33, was today sentenced to a maximum of five years jail for the manslaughter of Scotsman Rudi Boa in January last year.

Mr Boa, 28, died on January 27 after being stabbed by York at the Blowering Holiday Park, near Tumut.

Mr Boa and his girlfriend Gillian Brown arrived in Australia from Scotland at the end of 2005 and went to Tumut to pick fruit as their first port of call on a round the world holiday.

York had been in the country since April 2005.

The Scottish couple and York, neighbours at the caravan park, were becoming friends and spent the night of January 27 drinking at the Star Hotel in Tumut.

However, towards the end of the night, an argument between York and the pair about creationism versus evolution escalated into a shouting match at the pub.

The couple, both biomedical scientists, had been arguing the case of evolution, while York had taken a more biblical view of history.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,2292...

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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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1. He only gets 5 YEARS!?
what the fuck....
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:00 PM
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13. That's how it is in most of Europe and apparently Australia.
They don't use really long sentences like American courts do. In 1993 in Budapest I watched a defendant get 5 years for murdering his wife.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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2. Too bad he doesn't live in Arkansas. Huckabee would work doubletime for a pardon.
If he raped a CLinton cousin, he would DEFINITELY be free.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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3. And a more Biblical response to the argument as well, I see.
:evilfrown:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 PM
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4. Right Wing Christian Terrorism is rising up
A group of Jewish friends are assaulted by a Christian gang for not saying "Merry Christmas", and now someone has actually died.

Sad and frightening.
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:21 PM
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16. Almost as frightening as car-bombs and jets-into-skyscrapers!
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:10 PM
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27. too right.. and depleated uranium...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:27 PM
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28. Car bombing was made completely ordinary as far back as the 1960's, in Miami
practised liberally by Cuban "exile" right-wing operatives, and by other right-wing terrorist organizations, like Operation Condor, which was responsible for murders of leftists, and suspected leftists all over Latin America, and for car-bombing a Chilean diplomat, Orlando Letelier, in his car, killing him and his American assistant, Ronnie Moffit, injuring her husband, in broad daylight on the streets of Washington D.C.

Operation Condor slaughtered suspected "leftists." There were C.I.A. people connected to this organization. Some perspective would be an invaluable aid for you.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 PM
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5. Or...Night of binge-drinking with strangers ends in tragedy. nt
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 PM
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6. Who Would Jesus Stab?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:32 PM
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7. ...thus demonstrating that there is no evolution
since some folks never come out of the caveman stage.

It must have really bugged him that they were smart and scientists, too. That's the whole root of Gore Hatred--he's a smartypants. And reporters (nowadays) are not smartypants.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:33 PM
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8. Very sad. Drinking and arguing don't mix well.

There is so much rage in the world today that it's really unsafe to argue with someone in public even when everybody involved is sober.
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:23 PM
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17. I'd like to argue the point over a few drinks.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:46 PM
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9. When you can't win on the merits of your argument, go for the low blow.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:47 PM
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10. In a nutshell, the Darwinian explanation for human warfare. Killer lives on!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:56 PM
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11. Gotta love that Christian morality. But of course THEY are being persecuted....NT
lkj
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:21 PM
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34. I get the impression
that YOU are being persecuted.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:59 PM
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12. This is just the beginning.....
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 12:59 PM by aikoaiko

...every liberal, progressive thinker would do well to arm themselves.
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:05 PM
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14. Death to all Christians !!
:D
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:06 PM
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15. This has more to do with being drunk than argument over a topic
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winter999 Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:25 PM
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19. That's ok. If you look at the posts, religion is being critisized, not the drinking.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:24 PM
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18. Onward Christian soldiers...
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:26 PM
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20. Which is why all supporters of evolution should have a concealed weapons permit.
One small stab for our 6,000 year old planet, one giant ka-boom! for Darwin.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:37 PM
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21. Roger that. (eom)
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:43 PM
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22. "He will be eligible for release on January 26, 2009."
Holy Cow.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:44 PM
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23. He wasn't assaulted because he was an Darwinist.
He was assaulted because he was stupid. Anybody who would challenge a "God created man in his image" from a bunch of strangers in Australia -- with Fossil evidence, shit heads -- is not terribly intelligent.

"...A Christian stabbed a guy..." ? Oh, come on. I've never seen a Christian stab a guy. A believer would consider it sacrilege --- and why would a non-believer stab a Darwinist ?
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:36 PM
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31. You've been reading that other thread, I see. nt
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Mr_Monday Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:46 PM
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24. Survival of the Fittest
:sarcasm:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:55 PM
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25. I'm sorry, but this guy killed someone in a drunken argument and he will spend just over one year
in prison? (5 years sentence and eligible for parole in Jan. 2009). I find that shameful. Someone smoking pot gets more time.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:04 PM
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26. reminds me of the end of this cartoon (warning: big cartoon).
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:29 PM
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29. A biomed-student / creationist / felon
There's a resume for ya.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:31 PM
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30. Ban knives!
:)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:41 PM
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32. Yes, especially since all those innocent bystanders were killed by his random stabbing spree
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 02:41 PM by jgraz
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:02 PM
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33. Was it a semi-automatic knife or a long blade with more reach?
and did god guide his hand ;)
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