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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:39 AM
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House Judiciary Trio Calls for Impeach Cheney Hearings
I participated in a MoveOn Action yesterday at my Congressperson's office (Tammy Baldwin) and just saw this this morning. I am so proud of her for getting out in front of the impeachment issue- its exactly what I wanted from her!

(Written by from John Nichols in The Nation)

Three senior members of the House Judiciary Committee have called for the immediate opening of impeachment hearings for Vice President Richard Cheney.

Democrats Robert Wexler of Florida, Luis Gutierrez of Illinois and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin on Friday distributed a statement, "A Case for Hearings," that declares, "The issues at hand are too serious to ignore, including credible allegations of abuse of power that if proven may well constitute high crimes and misdemeanors under our constitution. The charges against Vice President Cheney relate to his deceptive actions leading up to the Iraq war, the revelation of the identity of a covert agent for political retaliation, and the illegal wiretapping of American citizens."

In particular, the Judiciary Committee members cite the recent revelation by former White House press secretary Scott McClellan that the Vice President and his staff purposefully gave him false information about the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert agent as part of a White House campaign to discredit her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson. On the basis of McClellan's statements, Wexler, Gutierrez and Baldwin say, "it is even more important for Congress to investigate what may have been an intentional obstruction of justice." The three House members argue that, "Congress should call Mr. McClellan to testify about what he described as being asked to unknowingly along false information.'"

Adding to the sense of urgency, the members note that "recent revelations have shown that the Administration including Vice President Cheney may have again manipulated and exaggerated evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- this time about Iran's nuclear capabilities."

Although Wexler, Gutierrez and Baldwin are close to Judiciary Committee chair John Conyers, getting the Michigan Democrat to open hearings on impeachment will not necessarily be easy. Though Conyers was a leader in suggesting during the last Congress that both President Bush and Vice President Cheney had committed impeachable offenses, he has been under immense pressure from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, to keep Constitutional remedies for executive excesses "off the table" in this Congress.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=259835

Thanks to these three for standing up for the American people and the Constitution! :kick:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:10 PM
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1. It seems as though Nancy Pelosi is the biggest obstacle to overcome now
She's a waste of skin and an embarrassment to the Democratic Party. It's time to run her out on the same rails as Bush, Cheney and the rest of them who would subvert our government.

Nancy Pelosi, you need to RESIGN you worthless sack of shit....

:kick: & 5th rec... off to the greatest with you...


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:21 PM
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2. Are we better off with her than Denny Hastert?
I mean, on the issue of impeachment I don't think so. And that's pretty scary.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:37 PM
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3. What else has she done besides showboat and pander to the misadministration?
She says that Congress shouldn't be tied up with impeachment because there's "more important things to get done", yet nothing is getting done.

Sure, you say what you want about passing a few bills, but how many of them have been vetoed?? The biggest waste of Congress' time is to keep passing bills they KNOW are going to be vetoed.

has time to vote to censure MoveOn.org and bullshit about Christmas. I swear sometimes I think I'm reading a comic book instead of Congressional Minutes....


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:46 PM
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5. We had such high hopes for her
I've never had to lower my expectations so much. I guess it would be worse if we still had Hastert but I thought a Democratic majority would mean a lot more than this. And I thought a Democratic Speaker would be on OUR team. Hastert certainly played for HIS team.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:22 AM
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13. she has taken the constitution of the table.
and seems to have enough supporters to keep what is left of it off.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 04:22 AM
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20. They are acting like a bunch of pussies! They keep it up and I'll stay
home during the next election!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:34 AM
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14. yeah, she's so awful, she should run for president - perfect compromise candidate *cough*
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:18 AM
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24. Nancy probably got Conyers RIAA "friends" to lean on him
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 08:19 AM by bushmeat
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:35 AM
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28. BINGO
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:38 PM
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4. Wake me when something other than talk happens. -n/t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:50 PM
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6. There are some signs of hope here.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:58 PM
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7. There have been the whole time, but look where we are.
I'll believe it when it happens.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:37 AM
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30. I am feeling the same Sentiment--yet, change happens slowly!1
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:08 PM
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32. Change can happen in an instant. I think some people use the slow-change argument as an excuse.
Not that you are, and not to ruin your optimism. I'm just not a patient person to begin with, and I lost mine about seven years ago.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:16 PM
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8. kicking for Congress!
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:23 PM
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9. They don't need to succeed to be productive:
"Even if the hearings do not lead to removal from office, putting these grievous abuses on the record is important for the sake of history. For an Administration that has consistently skirted the constitution and asserted that it is above the law, it is imperative for Congress to make clear that we do not accept this dangerous precedent. Our Founding Fathers provided Congress the power of impeachment for just this reason, and we must now at least consider using it."
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:28 PM
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10. Amen. Who gets credit for the quote?
NGU.


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:08 PM
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11. The three judiciary committee members Gutierrez, Baldwin, and Wexler
Maybe Gwen Moore will sign on now.

"Holding hearings would put the evidence on the table, and the evidence -- not politics -- should determine the outcome," the Judiciary Committee members explain. "Even if the hearings do not lead to removal from office, putting these grievous abuses on the record is important for the sake of history. For an Administration that has consistently skirted the constitution and asserted that it is above the law, it is imperative for Congress to make clear that we do not accept this dangerous precedent. Our Founding Fathers provided Congress the power of impeachment for just this reason, and we must now at least consider using it." (last paragraph)
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:26 PM
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12. Can someone please explain to me why one person (Pelosi) has so much power?
She was elected to be a representative from california. not the voice of the party.
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sss1977 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:55 AM
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15. Good question.
I don't know. Maybe we should ask --insert multinational corporation(s) here-- pulling her strings.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:44 AM
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17. I don't begrudge her the power, I begrudge her not using it.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:47 AM
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18. She was elected by the House Dem Caucus to be their voice
I guess you could say that she's de facto voice of the party, but she's really not assertive enough to hold that title. Newt Gingrich clearly did while he was speaker. The party right now isn't unified behind any particular leader.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 02:58 AM
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16. K&R n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:58 AM
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19. Video Of Wexler:
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:21 AM
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22. It's a major step in the right
direction when 3 House judicary members, join together & write the case for impeachment. Keep in mind that the NY Times & the Washington Post refused to print their letter. The best part about all this, is you get to see very clearly who is part of the problem.

Sign on here if in favor:
http://wexlerwantshearings.com/
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:36 AM
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23. Thank you and welcome to DU!
:kick:
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:16 AM
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21. I cannot count how many emails I have sent,
petitions I have signed--marched in demonstrations, what does it take? Supporting impeachment now I believe would ensure reelection in most cases, so I don't buy the 'inconvenient' excuse for not starting proceedings.
Taxation without representation.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 09:23 AM
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25. Nancy Pelosi
CAN and SHOULD be removed from the House Speaker position immediately. They must replace her before anything is going to happen.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 10:47 AM
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26. Maybe this will move her.
Baldwin is on good terms with her, and was appointed by her.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:31 AM
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27. Tammy Baldwin! My Rep!
:bounce: :kick: :loveya: :pals:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:36 AM
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29. to heck with cheney---go after the top peabrain!!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 02:17 PM
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31. kick!
:kick:
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