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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:05 AM
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Want to Know Why We Don't Have VETO PROOF MARGINS? 3.2 MILL UNCOUNTED BALLOTS IN '06!
Please recommend Melissa G.'s important thread over at the Election Reform forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

National Election Survey Reveals 3.2 Million Uncounted Ballots in 2006 Elections -- UPDATED


By Kim Zetter December 11, 2007 | 12:11:33 AMCategories: Election '08

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/national-elect...
The federal Election Assistance Commission -- the agency created after the 2000 presidential debacle that is tasked with overseeing voting machine testing and serving as a clearinghouse for election administration information -- published a survey of the 2006 election today that reveals some interesting stats.

The information, collected from election administrators nationwide, covers the number of registered voters per jurisdiction, voter turnout, types of voting systems used, percentage of votes cast by absentee and provisional ballots, etc.

One interesting nugget concerns the number of ballots cast vs. ballots counted in the election.

According to the report, about 82 million ballots were "cast or counted" in the 2006 election (the number isn't exact because not every jurisdiction responded to the survey). But some 3.2 million ballots that were cast never got counted.

The report provides a table showing the number of ballots that went uncounted by state (see the middle column in the table at right). For example, in Florida 122,759 ballots went uncounted in 2006. In California, the number was 416,260 ballots. Illinois held the record, however, with a whopping 889,012 uncounted ballots.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:11 AM
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1. Stars&Stripes: Less than Half of Military Overseas Votes Counted in '06
Less than half of military votes overseas counted
Election commission: 57,000 ballots were cast in '06

By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Tuesday, September 25, 2007


WASHINGTON Overseas military voters had less than half of their votes counted in last year's congressional elections, according to data released by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission on Monday.

"One thing is clear: At every level of government, we need to do a better job," said Donetta Davidson, chair of the commission. "We must make sure all eligible voters are getting their opportunities."

The figures, released at the commission's annual conference on ways to improve and troubleshoot the absentee voting process, showed that only about 992,000 of the nearly 6 million eligible overseas citizens requested ballots for the 2006 general election.

That included about 119,000 military personnel stationed outside the United States. Of those, only about 57,000 less than 48 percent had their votes successfully cast or counted.

-snip

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM
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9. How many of the votes were not counted and how many
were not cast successfully?

Were the votes that were not cast successfully the result of them not being sent in time? Not signed?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:14 AM
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2. do the missing votes add up to enough seats
or were you just saying that to get our attention?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:18 AM
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3. I think we should go back and check the senate votes
that's were the damage is being done...wonder how we can can how many for a republican candidate to let them win.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:20 AM
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4. In OH it might have cost 2 congressional seats & a state auditor's seat:
Ohio's 2006 vote count now includes a higher percentage of uncounted ballots than in 2004, and a statistically impossible swing to the Republicans
by Bob Fitrakis, Harvey Wasserman and Ron Baiman
November 14, 2006

The percentage of uncounted votes in the allegedly "fraud free" 2006 Ohio election is actually higher than the fraud-ridden 2004 election, when the presidency was stolen here. A flawed voting process that allowed voters to be illegally turned away throughout the morning on Election Day may have cost the Dems at least two Congressional seats and a state auditor's seat.

The evidence comes directly from the official website of GOP Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell Blackwell website. But researchers wishing to verify the number of uncounted ballots from that web site should do so immediately, as Blackwell is known for quickly deleting embarrassing evidence. In 2004, Blackwell deleted the evidence of excessive uncounted votes after the final results were tallied.

Despite Democratic victories in five of six statewide partisan offices, an analysis by the Free Press shows a statistically implausible shift of votes away from the Democratic Party statewide candidates on Election Day, contrasted with the results of the Columbus Dispatch's final poll. The Dispatch poll predicted Democratic gubernatorial candidate Ted Strickland winning with 67% of the vote. His actual percentage was 60%. The odds of this occurring are one in 604 million.

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http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2250
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:27 AM
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5. Here's a movie trailer on the subject: Uncounted. The New Math of American Elections:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:45 AM
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6. Kick
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:33 AM
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7. How are you getting "veto-proof magins" I don't recall losing Illinois or California Senate seats.
For that matter, I seem to recall that the Republicans lost every contested Senate seat except for Tennessee, and lost all the statewide offices in Ohio by tremendous margins.

So where's the plot?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:45 AM
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8. '06 wasn't the only election for this to occur-3.6 million uncounted votes in '04
It was Ohio, New Mexico, Iowa, and on and on. 3.6 million votes were cast and never counted in the 2004 election 3.6 million. This isnt Greg Palast getting the info from a black helicopter. This is Greg Palast and our team going through the computer files of the election information agency and, by the way, the computer files of the Republican National Committee, which is one of the most enjoyable parts of the investigation because some schmuck at the RNC wrote some e-mails, in which they were discussing exactly how to jigger the election. We were able to suck that down through a fake web site.

-snip
http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/06/06/int06022.html
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:19 AM
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10. Actually every election has uncounted votes for various reasons
I think it's disgraceful.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:23 PM
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11. KR an important thread.
Here's what happened to American democracy -- thrown in the dumpster by gangsters and traitors.
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