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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:21 AM
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Bush Promises to Veto Anti-Torture Bill-Even Though He Says That the U.S. Doesn't Torture
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 06:49 AM by kpete
Bush Promises to Veto Anti-Torture Bill Passed by House, Even Though He Says That the U.S. Doesn't Torture. Washington Post and Other Corporate Mainstream Press Continue to Call Torture "Harsh Interrogation" "Tactics or Techniques," Taking Their Cue from the White House.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/tom-delay-appoin...

House Passes Bill to Ban CIA's Use of Harsh Interrogation Tactics

By Joby Warrick and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, December 14, 2007; Page A07

The House approved legislation yesterday that would bar the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation tactics, drawing an immediate veto threat from the White House and setting up another political showdown over what constitutes torture.

The measure, approved by a largely party-line vote of 222 to 199, would require U.S. intelligence agencies to follow Army rules adopted last year that explicitly forbid waterboarding. It also would require interrogators to adhere to a strict interpretation of the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners of war. The rules, required by Congress for all Defense Department personnel, also ban sexual humiliation, "mock" executions and the use of attack dogs, and prohibit the withholding of food and medical care.

The passage of the bill, which must still win Senate approval, fulfills a promise by House Democratic leaders to seek a ban on interrogation practices that have prompted the condemnation of human rights groups and many governments around the world. It comes amid a furor over the CIA's announcement a week ago that it destroyed in 2005 videotapes showing the use of harsh interrogation tactics on two terrorism suspects.

The White House vowed to veto the measure. Limiting the CIA to interrogation techniques authorized by the Army Field Manual "would prevent the United States from conducting lawful interrogations of senior al Qaeda terrorists to obtain intelligence needed to protect Americans from attack," the Office of Management and Budget said in a statement.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:35 AM
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1. recommended
"Limiting the CIA to interrogation techniques authorized by the Army Field Manual "would prevent the United States from conducting lawful interrogations of senior al Qaeda terrorists to obtain intelligence needed to protect Americans from attack..."

LMAO

So, uh, not allowing the CIA to continue to torture would prevent lawful "interrogations?

LMAO

Alrighty then

I'm so sick of this game of hiding behind the law that enables government to commit crimes.

On January 20, 2001, water-boarding was torture and torture was against both federal and international law. And every single time the 109th Congress fucked with the laws pertaining to torture, more and more leeway and legal cover was granted to the CIA (and the Bush regime) that brought us to this point in time.

A real simple solution. Go back to the original wording of the War Crimes Act of 1996, follow both the spirit and letter of federal and international law prior to the Bush regime, as well as customary law. Prosecute the guilty.







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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:41 AM
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2. First thing that came to mind too. So, if there were any doubts- no more, he is pro torture.
n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:43 AM
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3. He is MORE than "pro-torture". I think he actually
gets off on it.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:46 AM
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4. Maybe it's even more accurate to say he believes in torture and tortures, period. n/t
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:05 AM
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5. Mukasey is destined for Water Board of the Year to one up him. n/t
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:14 AM
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6. What else does he need to do to confirm he is a criminal?
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