Nancy Marie Antoinette Pelosi

[Triana]

"LET THEM EAT CAKE!"

...says she of her own constituents outside her home and the rest of us urging her to (God forbid) do OUR will since she is (supposedly) OUR representative "up there". Of course there is some debate that Marie Antoinette ever actually uttered that phrase, but nonetheless, her apparent self-important, bubbleheaded attitude certainly matches Nancy's, thus I give you Nancy Marie Antionette Pelosi:




Same attitude, different century.

[gateley]

1. Ha! Same attitude, different millennium! Too funny! Recommend!! nt

[lvx35]

2. Yeah! Fuck the Republicans!!!! nt

[Triana]

3. (no thanks...)

But who needs 'em when you got Nancy Marie to go to bat for them?

[MonkeyFunk]

4. ah, just more substanceless dem-bashing

this must be GD

[deacon]

6. Yeah, right. Bush tries to drum up a war with iran knowing he is lying about it and

she does NOTHING about it. It's not pelosi bashing, it's not bush bashing, it's not dem bashing. It's what happened and he's not being held accountable as she promised. No substance? yeah....

[Triana]

8. Exactly deacon! Thx! (n/t)

[yodermon]

19. well it is Democratic *Underground*, after all.

Clearly, you're well above ground.

[truebrit71]

20. I agree..Nancy has stood up to the WH at every single oppor.....oh wait...

...sorry, I was thinking that would be the case if she acted like she was MAJORITY leader instead of being the mino...ummm...

What was your point again?

[insanad]

43. Can someone get Pelosi and Reed some Viagra ?

Our Congress has been so impotent and I'm very very unsatisfied. What will it take to get them to stop posing and bragging and just DO IT!!! With over 70% of the American people disillusioned or dowright violently angry with Bush and his corrupt administration, the exodus from his cabinet and absolute dysfunction of the entire staff, the lies, the lies, the downright dirty bald faced lies, WHY CAN'T THEY DO SOMETHING???

THe world is glaring at us like the Mom at Walmart with the obnoxious disobedient loud spoiled child who refuses to discipline him or demand better behavior as he has his temper tantrums,destroying everything around him and causing an embarassing scene. Because we allow our own despot dictator to do to others what we condemned in Saddam Hussein and other depraved corrupt power mongers, we in essence show that in spite of our "Enlightened Privilege", WE THE PEOPLE, are as easily led as any in the less endowed countries. For the first time in my 45 years, I'm ashamed of our nation for failing to eject George Bush and his corrupt administration. What will it take for our congress to act? Could someone get them a double dose of viagra so they can at least "Get it up" long enough to get the ball rolling on the impeachment? The world needs us to TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BAD SEED.

WE THE PEOPLE have expelled corrupt dictators in the past. WE THE PEOPLE have fought against tyranny and oppression and won. WE THE PEOPLE have found good and just leaders and supported them and WE THE PEOPLE can do it again. We are innovators, creators, leaders, inventors, producers, and dreamers. We sent men to the moon, ended wars, created vaccinations for some of the worlds worst diseases, fed nations, and connected all of us here on this site with the internet. WE THE PEOPLE can change the course of this nation and make a difference in the world.

I have no intention of presenting a PollyAnna view that all will be well if we just elect a good leader. In fact, whomever that leader will be will be handed a bag of broken glass and the demands to "Fix" it will nearly paralyze any leader, even a good one. We the people are over 300 million strong. Surely there must be a fair proportion of those people who are willing to rise up, to fight and work and sacrifice and change to make the difference in the world. It won't just be a leader but a nation of leaders.

An apocalyptic view and bitter resentment won't be the glue that will hold us together. I don't doubt for a moment that our world is more corrupt, more toxic, more troubled, more cruel, more in the throes of anarchy than ever before in the history of our modern world. I also don't doubt that one person can influence another person, and another, till a whole community is inspired, and then a city, and a state and a nation.

Today I signed yet another protest against Bush and Cheney. Today I lent my name and reputation to some serious causes. Today I tried to share information and influence with people I love to inspire them to do something too. Today I reduced, reused, recycled. Today I didn't spend money I didn't have or go where I didn't need to go or consume what I didn't need to consume. I'll do it again tomorrow and the next and the next. I alone can't change the world but all of us can.

This petition can be sent to everyone who cares. Give it your best and do something TODAY!!!

http://impeachcentral.com /

[insanad]

44. Can someone get Pelosi and Reed some Viagra ?

Our Congress has been so impotent and I'm very very unsatisfied. What will it take to get them to stop posing and bragging and just DO IT!!! With over 70% of the American people disillusioned or dowright violently angry with Bush and his corrupt administration, the exodus from his cabinet and absolute dysfunction of the entire staff, the lies, the lies, the downright dirty bald faced lies, WHY CAN'T THEY DO SOMETHING???

THe world is glaring at us like the Mom at Walmart with the obnoxious disobedient loud spoiled child who refuses to discipline him or demand better behavior as he has his temper tantrums,destroying everything around him and causing an embarassing scene. Because we allow our own despot dictator to do to others what we condemned in Saddam Hussein and other depraved corrupt power mongers, we in essence show that in spite of our "Enlightened Privilege", WE THE PEOPLE, are as easily led as any in the less endowed countries. For the first time in my 45 years, I'm ashamed of our nation for failing to eject George Bush and his corrupt administration. What will it take for our congress to act? Could someone get them a double dose of viagra so they can at least "Get it up" long enough to get the ball rolling on the impeachment? The world needs us to TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BAD SEED.

WE THE PEOPLE have expelled corrupt dictators in the past. WE THE PEOPLE have fought against tyranny and oppression and won. WE THE PEOPLE have found good and just leaders and supported them and WE THE PEOPLE can do it again. We are innovators, creators, leaders, inventors, producers, and dreamers. We sent men to the moon, ended wars, created vaccinations for some of the worlds worst diseases, fed nations, and connected all of us here on this site with the internet. WE THE PEOPLE can change the course of this nation and make a difference in the world.

I have no intention of presenting a PollyAnna view that all will be well if we just elect a good leader. In fact, whomever that leader will be will be handed a bag of broken glass and the demands to "Fix" it will nearly paralyze any leader, even a good one. We the people are over 300 million strong. Surely there must be a fair proportion of those people who are willing to rise up, to fight and work and sacrifice and change to make the difference in the world. It won't just be a leader but a nation of leaders.

An apocalyptic view and bitter resentment won't be the glue that will hold us together. I don't doubt for a moment that our world is more corrupt, more toxic, more troubled, more cruel, more in the throes of anarchy than ever before in the history of our modern world. I also don't doubt that one person can influence another person, and another, till a whole community is inspired, and then a city, and a state and a nation.

Today I signed yet another protest against Bush and Cheney. Today I lent my name and reputation to some serious causes. Today I tried to share information and influence with people I love to inspire them to do something too. Today I reduced, reused, recycled. Today I didn't spend money I didn't have or go where I didn't need to go or consume what I didn't need to consume. I'll do it again tomorrow and the next and the next. I alone can't change the world but all of us can.

This petition can be sent to everyone who cares. Give it your best and do something TODAY!!!

http://impeachcentral.com / Harry Reid's office 202-224-3542

[deacon]

5. k + r n/t

[Perry Logan]

7. Propaganda 101: Sow dissent in the enemy's ranks. Get them to attack their leaders.

[Triana]

9. no one has to "get them" to attack their leaders. Their "leaders" do a darn good job...

...of that themselves by NOT doing their jobs!

[tom_paine]

11. Enablement 101: Read Sebastian Haffner's Defying Hitler

Hyperbole, you say? Frightening similarity, I say, especially the part about the utter capitulation and collapse of the opposition leadership (even before Hitler began to take stronger measures against them).

Read it, if you have the balls to look your own ego in the "eye" (and honestly, who among us can do that anyway...not me and not most anyone else, but for the rarest exceptions and we call those people saints - I don't mean that religiously but it's secular definition).

[Triana]

12. "utter capitulation and collapse of the opposition leadership"

Yep. Exactly what it is. Someone else on DU suggested that Nancy Marie's expected performance on the job had been decided before she was Speaker. Could be. Maybe not.

But it is DEFINITELY utter capitulation and collapse of the opposition leadership - and IMO, inexcuseable.

[The Stranger]

13. Propaganda 102: GET THEIR LEADERS TO ABANDON THEIR BASE.

[Triana]

16. Exactly...

...and they've done just that, obviously. 'Tis me point.

[Marrah_G]

10. So did you cut and paste this right from FR?

[The Stranger]

14. Seeing the Nancy Disaster cover for the war criminals -- the Freepers must be dancing in the streets

[Triana]

17. "The Nancy Disaster" - HA! (n/t)

[HughMoran]

37. This isn't a Democrat leadership bashing website?

Who knew?

[Stinky The Clown]

15. I'd love to say fuck you ........ but its against the rules. So I won't say it.

[Marrah_G]

18. Sometimes DU looks more like FR

And my ignore list keeps growing...and growing. Since we can't tell them to fuck off, it's generally the best think for my blood pressure.

[truebrit71]

21. You think Nancy Antoinette has done a GOOD job?

You MUST be joking...

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. Because some of us here feel strongly about the constitution

and our reps' responsibility to REPRESENT us, you say this place looks like FR?

Show me where on FR they are discussing ending the war?

Where are they discussing impeachment?

National health care?

Find those topics and your comment makes sense. Otherwise, it is just reactionary bullshit.

[begin_within]

22. Here ya go...

[truebrit71]

23. ROFL!!!

Nice one!

[Triana]

24. Bwhahaaaaa!

Oh. Perfect!

Pfffffft!

EDIT: I went back and looked again and then noticed the "Impeachment" - OFF the table!

Bwahahahhahahaaaaaa!


I'm saving this one.

[begin_within]

33. Thanks

[cascadiance]

25. Nice! Here's my updated "analogy photoshop"...

[bvar22]

30. Excellent!!

You get an extra ration of cake!

The "Impeachment" sign off the table is brilliant!

[begin_within]

50. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all year.

[stimbox]

40. That would make a nice postcard! n/t

[L. Coyote]

26. STOP Torturing and Swiftboating Pelosi. Try to discuss substance if you have issues.

How is this different than swiftboating Kerry? Oh yeah, maybe it is cannibalistic to eat your own.

If you have something substantive, I would certainly entertain and consider your ideas. But this lowers the bar too far.

[cascadiance]

27. Kerry wasn't f'ing with his constitutional responsibilities!

There IS a difference! We are the ones that voted her in. And we had expected that she'd do her job for us upon getting in. If she was doing her job, we'd be celebrating her time in office rather than feeling we have to express our opinions this way.

[Triana]

28. Exactly what Cali said....BIG diff from Kerry

and I think we all KNOW what the "issues" are with Nancy Marie...

[L. Coyote]

31. SO< if you think Pelosi isn't meeting her constitutional responsibilities, discuss that.

And, the members of Congress voted her as Speaker, not "us." She is their Speaker, and it is their decision to uphold or change.

[Triana]

36. We've ALREADY DISCUSSED that....been on DU long?

It's been discussed time and time again. Look around.

Nancy Marie has characterized HERSELF here. Calling it what it so obviously IS is not the problem.

[MonkeyFunk]

51. Unless you live in Pelosi's district

or are a member of the House of Representatives, YOU didn't vote for Pelosi for anything.

[cascadiance]

56. I actually recall being in her district when I lived in the Bay Area at one time...

But that's beside the point. The point is that America collectively voted for a new congress with more Dems to stop this f'in war! Pelosi as leader of that body should understand that her decisions running that body should take that into account. Doesn't matter whether we are in her district or not. She's responsible to us in her capacity of Speaker of the House.

[stimbox]

60. I do and a lot of us are going to vote against her.

Marie Antoinette is right.

[ProSense]

29. Pelosi on PBS

Pelosi on PBS

Have a listen!

[Occam Bandage]

32. "Boy," said the little liberal fish.

"This anti-Dem worm is tasty. It was so nice of Mr. Republican to drop it down here for me. I wonder why he would be so generous? And I wonder what this hard metal thing in my mouth is for?"

[KingFlorez]

35. It's not her fault Bush vetoes everything

Or is he not to blame for anything anymore?

[Triana]

38. They're BOTH to blame. He's a criminal. SHE enables him. (n/t)

[HughMoran]

39. Too negative for me

I'm sick of the Dem bashers here.

[cascadiance]

42. We're not Dem bashers, we're "Do nothing" bashers...

We really WANT a Democrat and would worship a REAL Democrat or two in congress doing their job that we voted them in to do. That's different than "Dem Bashing" that Republicans practice that want to get in the way of real Democratic agenda. We just want someone that carries through with the agenda that we feel a Democrat should work on. There IS a difference!

[cascadiance]

41. Oh, it's not her fault for sending a war spending bill up to him to sign...

As others have noted, she HAS THE POWER to not send a spending bill up to him and the funding stops for this war. Given his intransigence, I think she at some point should say that she has a spine too, and that unless he plays ball, she won't either! Americans would respect her for that.

I think she's worried about the corporate backers and the power they wield through the DLC. The American people would be behind her!

[Occam Bandage]

45. First, that wouldn't stop the war.

The Pentagon could, and would, just pull funding from other sources. And the story wouldn't be "Iraq soldiers come home," but rather "Pentagon closing rehabilitation centers due to lack of Congressional funding." To stop the war, they'd have to cut off funding and prohibit Congressional funding from going to the war. And good luck passing that.

Second, an immediate pullout from Iraq is just as unpopular as the "open-ended commitment" plan. She's going with the American people here--push for timelines. It isn't her fault that the President vetoes everything.

[cascadiance]

47. As George Lackoff would say, "It's all about framing"...

And if they're stupid enough to allow the president and his minions to get away with framing it this way, then they deserve to be voted out of office.

How about, "We are doing what we can to stop this war as the American people elected us to do. The President is not cooperating. and trying to work around the power and the resonsibility of congress to oversee funding of military operations. Therefore, he leaves us with no choice but to pursue impeachment proceedings, due to his continued efforts to try and take more power than the Constitution says he's allowed to have."

[Occam Bandage]

48. If you're claiming that you're impeaching him because

you are at political odds with him over Iraq, well...good luck passing that one in the Senate. We can't even break filibuster on Iraq issues. You think we'll convict over Iraq?

(Actually, er, he's kinda on the side of precedent in that argument. Congress doesn't usually attach operational guidelines to funding. The Bushies will just turn it around and claim we're expanding our power and Mr. Small Government Himself is blocking it. There'll be a fight, the American people will give up on trying to follow it, and there will be no public mandate. No public mandate, and there'll be a party-line vote, and the conviction of Bush will fail by a dozen votes.)

[cascadiance]

55. Impeachment hearings and protests kept Nixon from nuking North Vietnam!

Truthfully! Daniel Ellsberg has said as much in his lectures. So, stopping a president with such proceeding with impeachments HAS succeeded in the past!

[badgerpup]

46. Totally off subject, OK? But referring to picture...

...that incredible costume in which Marie is posing is HAND-MADE. No sewing machines.
All the lace, gauze, the embroidery on the cushion and tablecloth...all made by hand.
The thought just boggles my mind.



OK. Back to our regularly scheduled disgustathon.

[Triana]

49. It's definitely a work of art...

....while the disgustathon is an unmitigated DISASTER.

I shall refer to Her Majesty as Nancy Marie (or NMAP) from now on. I had SUCH hopes for her. But she's been shamefully complicit with the bu$histas.

[terrya]

52. Maybe Skinner should change the name of this place to Democrat Bashing Underground. com

Since that's pretty much what is going on around here nowadays.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. Corporatist tool of the DLC!!

Suppressor of The People.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

54. DU has gone way downhill

*sigh*

[Triana]

57. "DEMOCRATS" in Washington Have Gone WAY Downhill...

...they've inexplicably followed Psychopath George right over the cliff. Nancy Marie, especially. And to add insult to injury she cops this self-important ("I know better than you little people - shut up") attitude about it.

CALLING THEM (and her) OUT on that isn't the problem. The PROBLEM occurred before that -- when they followed PsychoGeorge and capitulated - time and time and time again. Nancy Marie went first, with her declaration "Impeachment is off the table!"

The huffy "Nancy Marie" syndrome is just the French lace topping on top of that stained taffetta dress.

Just so.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

58. bullshit

this site is turning into a joke

[derby378]

61. All we want is for Democrats in Congress to do their job...

Since Herr Decider won't do it, it's up to Congress to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies - foreign and domestic.

That ain't what Fancy Nancy is doing right now, and it breaks my heart.

[MonkeyFunk]

62. Indeed it is....

it already has. This site does more damage to Dems and the Democratic cause than it does good.

There was a time when a substanceless, bashing thread like this one would've been locked for violating this rule:

"Constructive criticism of Democrats or the Democratic Party is permitted. When doing so, please keep in mind that most of our members come to this website in order to get a break from the constant attacks in the media against our candidates and our values. Highly inflammatory or divisive attacks that echo the tone or substance of our political opponents are not welcome here."

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

68. agreed - I think the Admins have lost the plot - as the English say

It's sad

[terrya]

63. And this crap will be remembered on the next fund drive.

I'll be goddamned if I donate to a place that bashes Democrats. It's just a little fucking ridiculous to do so.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

67. coming from a former Mod that carries some weight

Thumbs up T

[treestar]

59. Let's not overdo it

If that applies to anyone in the U.S., it is well more deserved by: Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, Nancy Reagan, maybe Ann Coulter and the various other right wing witches.

[omega minimo]

64. The Table

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Dangerman]

65. Kick.

[Franc_Lee]

66. I think Pelosi is waiting for Hillary to make prez so she can then flex her muscles?

[fortyfeetunder]

69. In Nancy's defense (so flame away)...

I think from looking at the situation, methinks Nancy's hands are tied. She doesn't have a veto-proof House, so what can she do differently?

[omega minimo]

70. speak the truth