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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:14 PM
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Water torture being used by USA personell in the Vietnam war.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:21 PM
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1. And then there was our favorite...
Picture some poor bastard with his pants around his ankles.

And a team of crazy Americans with a field mouse, a length of aluminum conduit and a Zippo.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:39 PM
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3. ....
:wow:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:55 PM
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4. True story
When you hear crap such as, "Our government does not torture", remember what you read in my reply.

I had nightmares about that shit for years.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:23 PM
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2. The US is guilty of war crimes.
Ask Afghanistan. Ask Iraq. Ask Vietnam. Ask Cambodia. Ask Venezuela. Ask Cuba. Ask Bolivia. Ask Chilé.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:10 PM
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5. Use of water torture by US forces predates Viet Nam

Waterboarding and U.S. History

by William Loren Katz

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In World War II Japan and Germany routinely used water boarding on prisoners. In Viet Nam U.S. forces held bound Viet Cong captives and “sympathizers” upside down in barrels of water. Water boarding also has been associated with the Khmer Rouge.

An extensive record of its use by the United States land forces exists in the records of the invasion and occupation of the Philippines that began in 1898. As the U.S. encountered armed resistance by the liberation army of Filipino General Emilio Aguinaldo, and sank into a 12-year quagmire on the archipelago, U.S. officers routinely resorted to what they called “the water cure.” Professor Stuart C. Miller's study of the Philippine war, "Benevolent Assimilation," reveals this sordid story through Congressional testimony, letters from soldiers, court martial hearings, words of critics and defenders, and newspaper accounts. The pro-imperialist media of the day justified the “water cure” as necessary to gain information; the anti-imperialist media denounced its use by the U.S or any other civilized nation.

Fresh from their recent victories in the Indian wars, the Philippine invasion of 1898 began with a big war whoop. U.S. forces landed in the Philippines in 1898 led by American officers such Pershing, Lawton, Smith, Shafter, Otis, Merritt, and Chafee, who had fought “treacherous redskins.” At least one officer had taken part in the infamous 1891 massacre of 350 Lakota men, women and children at Wounded Knee. A U.S. media that had supported the Army's brutal Indian campaigns rhapsodized about this new opportunity for distant racial warfare. The influential San Francisco Argonaut spoke candidly: “We do not want the Filipinos. We want the Philippines. The islands are enormously rich, but unfortunately they are infested with Filipinos. There are many millions there, and it is to be feared their extinction will be slow.” The paper's solution was to recommend several unusually cruel methods of torture it believed “would impress the Malay mind.”

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During a triumphal U.S. speaking tour General Frederick Funston, bearing a Congressional Medal of Honor and harboring political ambitions, bellicosely promoted total war. In Chicago he boasted of sentencing 35 suspects to death without trial and enthusiastically endorsed torture and civilian massacres. He even publicly suggested that anti-war protestors be dragged out of their homes and lynched.

Funston's words met far more applause than criticism. In San Francisco he suggested that the editor of a noted anti-imperialist paper “ought to be strung up to the nearest lamppost.” At a banquet in the city he called Filipinos “unruly savages” and (now) claimed he had personally killed fifty prisoners without trial. Captain Edmond Boltwood, an officer under Funston, confirmed that the general had personally administered the water cure to captives, and had told his troops “to take no prisoners.”

http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/global/wlk_wb.html

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:44 AM
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6. kick n/t
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