My Sister-In-Law says she'd vote for any woman for Pres., Dem or Rep

[eeyore]

What's important to my SIL is the opportunity to vote for a woman for President, and she says she doesn't care who that woman is. I asked her if she would vote for Imelda Marcos or Ann Coulter, and she just repeated that she'd vote for any woman no matter what.

I think this is totally insane, but that's the way she feels. I can only think that she's just being her combative contrarian lawyer self.

But then I'm a white guy, so I can't really relate to having never had the opportunity to vote for someone like me - it's just the opposite.

What do women here think? Could you, would you, or have you crossed party lines just to vote for a woman?

[stray cat]

1. Never - the person and what they stand for is more important to me

Irregardless of sex, color, religion or someones endorsement.

[acmavm]

2. Hell no. The color,gender, or religion is not an issue. It's the person's

politics and the way they feel towards the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States of America that matters.

Nothing else.

[Hieronymus]

3. Unfortunately, there are many out there that feel the same as your

sister in law.

[Fridays Child]

8. Really? This is the first person I've heard of who would vote for...

...a woman whose political philosophy is the polar opposite of her own just because she's a woman. Who are these "many" that you know about?

[MADem]

9. And there are others--some of whom are women--who would NEVER vote for a woman.

I ran into a lady in town last week like that. Older woman sitting with a few friends a table over from me. Said she'd NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton because she didn't think a woman "should be" president, and she'd never vote for Barack Obama because he was black.

Made no bones about it, either. I almost choked on my beverage.

I figured it out as I continued to eavesdrop on her converstaion, though. She was a Mitt the Shitt fan....

[crim son]

4. I couldn't do that.

Maybe she believes there is no difference any more between repukes and dems, so she might as well look at gender.

[eeyore]

5. She actually thinks they are all full of shit

She doesn't like the tone of politics, so all she cares about is getting a woman role model into office. No matter whether she's a good or bad roll model!

[Fridays Child]

6. As a woman and a feminist, I have to say that your sister scares me.

[HockeyMom]

7. Best PERSON for the job

Would love that be a woman, but won't vote for a woman just because she was born female.

[cali]

10. sorry, I take stories like yours, told over the internet

with a large quantity of salt. I don't believe that you have a SiL who said they'd vote for Imelda Marcos or Ann Coulter for prez, just because they're female.

I tend to think posts like yours are fabricated to make an unsavory point.

[melody]

14. I tend to agree with you n/t

[eeyore]

18. Okay, scepticisms's healthy....

But it's true. She's also a lawyer who has the maddening tendency to argue a counterpoint for sport. I do, however, think that she's sincere about this. She has great disdain for the tone in politics, and would just like to see a woman rise to the highest office, regardless of who that woman is. It's all about the symbolic nature of it.

For real. :)

[gollygee]

27. Yeah, this smells like bullshit

Yeah, women are so stupid. We should never have even been given the right to vote. :sarcasm:

[Spazito]

11. Her position, imo, is no different than someone who won't vote for

a candidate because they are female, or black, etc. regardless of what their positions are. Voting for someone or against someone for gender, race, religion, etc, exclusive of their positions on important issues, is acting on a bias rather than acting on principle, imo.

[melody]

12. Then your sister-in-law is sexist

She's only voting for the candidate because she's female which is the exact "sin" committed by those who only vote for male candidates. As much as I'd love to see a female President in my lifetime, I'd vote for any Democratic candidate in the field over Hillary Clinton. Hillary would only get the nod over any Republican. The GOP don't have actual women on their team -- they have female engendered sociopathic automatons who are just as misogynist as the men.

[frogmarch]

13. I'm a woman, but no way

would I cast a vote for a woman unless I believed she was the right person for the job. Same goes for any man.

Your SIL needs to get a clue. geez.

[niyad]

15. NO-- as a life-long radical feminist, I would ONLY vcte for a woman who would uphold

the values important to me.

ages ago, there was a sad joke going around that the ultimate feminist nightmare would be that the US would have a female president and vice-president, only they would be phyllis schlafley and anita bryant.

[sandnsea]

16. Women can say that, black people can't

That's the truly interesting dynamic in this election.

[Stargazer99]

17. Most women are pretty rational

I've been resenting the crappy situation socially for women since 11 years old, being 67 years old I've seen the nastier side of male domination from life experience. I think your SIL is responding to that reality in many women's lives.
A note to you who are fundamentalist, the kind that treat women as "different", 2nd in line, etc. Your value or lack of value for another human being does NOT, I repeat does NOT produce justice in many cases (one case is too many in my book). And don't give me that crap that you revere or respect your women. If you can't treat the women in your life with the same respect on ALL LEVELS you treat men you are lacking in God's commandments (perhaps following Peter's, but Peter was a mere man). And to you who think that you believe you have a right to shove that religious belief down my throat through those you elect really ticks me off. I pray to God every day that your kind gets your foot off of our collective womens' throats.
And for you women who are perfectly happy having a man dominate you, fine, do not extend your personal values down my throat. No one is stopping you from practicing how you see it, so extend the same to my kind.
As you can see I feel very strongly about this but will vote for Edwards or Kunicich if they get the nomination because they will honor Joe Six Pac not big business. I have some concerns about Clinton as she knows the only way to win is to play the game of the "upper classes". If Edwards got the presidency I predict he'd be assinated before the year was out. Two ways to control the masses: through fear and wealth, when that begins to fail all hell will break loose.

[peacebird]

19. your SIL is just plain SILly. I vote for the best person for the job, regardless of

gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, or appearances.

[Irishonly]

20. No

I don't think a president should ever be chosen on race, gender or religion. Policies and stands on issues should be the only criteria. I guess I want to live in a perfect world. This political climate has disgusted me. Not only do we have the gender and the race card but it seems to me the religion questions have gotten out of control.

When Ray gun ran the first time I was teaching with a woman planning to vote for him I asked her why and was expecting to hear the welfare queen or some other BS. Her reason for voting for him was he could control those people. I asked her what she meant and she felt that anyone that had been SAG president and worked with Thespians could run the country. Unfortunately there are people basing their votes on looks, height, how presidential a candidate looks and almost everything except what is important.

[benddem]

21. You have to ask her

if she'd have voted for Elizabeth Dole? If the answer is yes, there is no hope for her.

[movonne]

22. I guess she needs some education in politics...because that is the

dumbest statement I have heard in a long time...and no I would not cross lines...not even would I vote for a dem just because it is a woman..as much as I would like to see a woman president...

[MuseRider]

23. Insane and not very inquisitive I would guess.

This makes no fucking sense at all. It is as bad as voting for the best looking or the one you would most like to have a beer with. She is your SIL so I won't say what I am thinking. Sorry you have to deal with her.

[eeyore]

24. She's actually quite sane

But she is a lawyer, which can make her quite the contrarian at times. :)

She's a patent attorney with a microbiology undergrad degree, so she's far from stupid. She just happens to think that all politicians are full of shit, and that the cause of women is more worthy of support than the cause of any particular political dogma.

Arguing with her is like going on the stand, so I just stay out of it. Totally not worth it!

[mntleo2]

25. Uhhhhh I did that once and it was a BIG mistake ...

...thirty years ago I voted for Dixie Lee Ray for governor and she was horrible. Just because you have a pair of t*ts and a vagina does not a good president make. Ray was the head of the Atomic Energy Commission and got the state all locked up in s nuclear energy program that was proven a mistake and we are STILL paying for it! The clean up in the eastern part of our state the heueueuge and deathly soup it made is going to affect us for years. Plus she was a true kook in every possible way.

DON'T vote for someone simply because they have a vagina or even testicles for that matter. Vote for them because they are smart, knowledgeable, wise, insightful, humane, diplomatic, or any other qualities you want in a leader. But I can tell ya from my own experience, it is not a good idea to vote for them for being a certain sex. Not a good idea!

Cat In Seattle

[EFerrari]

26. My mom says the same thing about Clinton.

Mom is 75 and she wants to see a woman in before she dies. I can't argue with that and feel good about it.

[eeyore]

28. My SIL is 45 and that's how she feels

This all came up because my 18yo neice has switched from a hardcore Clinton fan to Obama. My told me last year that her favorite book ever was Hilary's biography, then I saw her 9 months later and she'd moved on to Obama. When I asked her why, she said she can't stand Clinton's responses in the debates. My neice is a smart young liberal who is paying attention. :)

My SIL overheard the conversation, and chimed in that she doesn't care what Clinton's positions are, she's going to take the opportunity to vote for a woman regardless. That's when we started asking questions, and the potential for unpleasant Thanksgiving political discussion began. We pressed her a bit, and realized that this would not end quickly or well, so my neice and I left it alone.

Ahhhh, holidays with the family! x(

[EFerrari]

29. I know. I cook for the family every year and love it.

It's the conversation that I find difficult to do sober.

lol

[eeyore]

30. Me too!

I always stay in the kitchen, focused on task, and end up the hero when everyone is fed.

A few years ago my mom was flipping out over the fact that we had to cook for the following individuals' dietary restrictions: Veg, Vegan, Gluten Free, Shellfish Allergy, Meat and Potatoes Man, Noodle Obsessed Little Girl, and Fish Hater. My wife and I took over, and planned/cooked everything. My mom was so impressed that we managed to make every person extremely happy with that meal. I think that was the year that my brother's girlfriend announced at dinner that she'd inherited some money and was hoping to open up a legal brothel in Nevada. :rofl: