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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:32 AM
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Impeachment of Bush/Cheney IS a Constitutional OBLIGATION...
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 10:41 AM by rateyes
Yes, I know what the Article in the Constitution says about impeachment. It says that the Congress SHALL REMOVE from office upon impeachment and conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors. It does not say that they SHALL be impeached for the commission of high crimes.

Having said that: The Constitution also states that every Congressperson shall be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.

THIS IS THE OATH EACH CONGRESSPERSON TAKES:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

For those of you who want to argue that impeachment is NOT an obligation under the Constitution, I humbly ask you to answer this question:

How can Congress protect the Constitution if it stands idly by while the Executive continues to commit high crimes against the Constitution?

Notice the verb in the oath, "protect." That verb requires ACTION against all who would subvert the Constitution. With all due respect, when Nancy Pelosi took impeachment "off the table" she was abrogating her Constitutional oath of office.

Notice, the above oath, to which our Congresspersons are Constitutionally bound also states that they take the oath "without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion." I'm sorry, but the fact of the matter is, when Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table she was PURPOSELY EVADING her Constitutional obligation to protect and defend the Constitution.

Again, how can ANY POTUS be allowed by Congress to continue to commit high crimes against the Constitution, without check, and the Congress still say that they are fulfilling their Constitutional oath of office?

Is the impeachment of Dick Cheney and George Bush a Constitutional obligation of Congress? You bet your ass it is!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:34 AM
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1. Kick And Recommend ALL Impeachment Threads
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:36 AM
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2. I get tired of people saying that impeachment is not
the DUTY of Congress when it comes to Bush & Cheney. Thanks for the rec. :hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:38 AM
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4. and another
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:42 AM
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6. Can someone get Pelosi and Reed some Viagra ?
Our Congress has been so impotent and I'm very very unsatisfied. What will it take to get them to stop posing and bragging and just DO IT!!! With over 70% of the American people disillusioned or dowright violently angry with Bush and his corrupt administration, the exodus from his cabinet and absolute dysfunction of the entire staff, the lies, the lies, the downright dirty bald faced lies, WHY CAN'T THEY DO SOMETHING???

THe world is glaring at us like the Mom at Walmart with the obnoxious disobedient loud spoiled child who refuses to discipline him or demand better behavior as he has his temper tantrums,destroying everything around him and causing an embarassing scene. Because we allow our own despot dictator to do to others what we condemned in Saddam Hussein and other depraved corrupt power mongers, we in essence show that in spite of our "Enlightened Privilege", WE THE PEOPLE, are as easily led as any in the less endowed countries. For the first time in my 45 years, I'm ashamed of our nation for failing to eject George Bush and his corrupt administration. What will it take for our congress to act? Could someone get them a double dose of viagra so they can at least "Get it up" long enough to get the ball rolling on the impeachment? The world needs us to TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BAD SEED.

WE THE PEOPLE have expelled corrupt dictators in the past. WE THE PEOPLE have fought against tyranny and oppression and won. WE THE PEOPLE have found good and just leaders and supported them and WE THE PEOPLE can do it again. We are innovators, creators, leaders, inventors, producers, and dreamers. We sent men to the moon, ended wars, created vaccinations for some of the worlds worst diseases, fed nations, and connected all of us here on this site with the internet. WE THE PEOPLE can change the course of this nation and make a difference in the world.

I have no intention of presenting a PollyAnna view that all will be well if we just elect a good leader. In fact, whomever that leader will be will be handed a bag of broken glass and the demands to "Fix" it will nearly paralyze any leader, even a good one. We the people are over 300 million strong. Surely there must be a fair proportion of those people who are willing to rise up, to fight and work and sacrifice and change to make the difference in the world. It won't just be a leader but a nation of leaders.

An apocalyptic view and bitter resentment won't be the glue that will hold us together. I don't doubt for a moment that our world is more corrupt, more toxic, more troubled, more cruel, more in the throes of anarchy than ever before in the history of our modern world. I also don't doubt that one person can influence another person, and another, till a whole community is inspired, and then a city, and a state and a nation.

Today I signed yet another protest against Bush and Cheney. Today I lent my name and reputation to some serious causes. Today I tried to share information and influence with people I love to inspire them to do something too. Today I reduced, reused, recycled. Today I didn't spend money I didn't have or go where I didn't need to go or consume what I didn't need to consume. I'll do it again tomorrow and the next and the next. I alone can't change the world but all of us can.

This petition can be sent to everyone who cares. Give it your best and do something TODAY!!!

http://impeachcentral.com /
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:45 AM
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8. I don't believe that they're impotent...
I believe they've taken a vow of celibacy (that they cherish more than their vow to the Constitution).
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:45 AM
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7. you're welcome....impeachment is the duty of Congress...period
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:38 AM
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3. Pelosi took away the peoples tool. simple as that
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:40 AM
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5. Simple as that!
:hi:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 09:55 AM
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59. hell i said simple as that about a week ago and got ridiculed by the du board ridiculer!!
wink wink...if you know what i mean...

yes agreed..it is simple as that!

Nancy has abdicated her responsibility to the oath she took to protect and defend the constitution..

she had no right to take impeachment off the table..only we the people as a whole body have that right..

so lets vote it!!

well we did in 2006..

and we the people are being ignored!

simple as that.

fly
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alberg Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:14 AM
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60. The $$ are how we change Pelosi's mind.
The only way to get the Democratic Leadership to change their so called "strategy" and put Impeachment "back on the table" is to cut off the money. This is the only leverage "we the people" still have. We've been calling their offices, sending emails and demonstrating for 3 long years. No results, right? So, when the letter's and emails come from the Democrats (I don't include Edwards in this) asking for contributions, write "No $$ until Impeachment!!!" in big red letters across the form and mail it back. If enough of us do this you will see a change. I was on the phone with a telmarketer for the Democrats who called me the other day and I told her "No money until Impeachment". She told me that most of the calls she was making were getting the same response. Let's build in this. Pass the word.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:54 AM
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9. We need to bombard Pelosi's office with this. Conyers office, too!
Notice, the above oath, to which our Congresspersons are Constitutionally bound also states that they take the oath "without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion." I'm sorry, but the fact of the matter is, when Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table she was PURPOSELY EVADING her Constitutional obligation to protect and defend the Constitution.


Why are they protecting crooks? And by doing so, why are they allowing themselves to be complicit in these crimes against the Constitution?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:55 AM
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11. That's the million dollar question!!
And, they are out of lifelines.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:54 PM
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33. I am sure they already know this. They are doing it for a reason. Find out the reason and you will
understand how f***** we are.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:23 PM
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41. LOOK UNDER A BUSH FOR A ROVE, I WARN YOU THAT HE IS STILL AROUND
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:27 AM
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57. Why ..I think Nancy is part of the swamp.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:55 AM
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10. Dammit, people, we've got to keep our powder dry!


Recommended :bounce: #10
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:57 AM
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12. Yeah....and to add another metaphor...
they're playing chess, not checkers. :crazy: Thanks for the rec. :hi:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:15 AM
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13. What is the president took a gun and shot and killed another person in full view
of a hundred people and in perfect view of 3 surveillance cameras? And then what if our congress said they were "too busy" to impeach the man?

Are the impeachment naysayers telling us there is nothing we as a people can do?


BTW - Considering that the facts were fixed so as to start a war of aggression in Iraq this president and his cronies have already committed murder - hundreds of thousands of times over.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:17 AM
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15. There would still be those who would say that impeachment
is only an option. Go figure.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:17 AM
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14. But they don't have the votes!
The msm will defend bush during impeachment proceedings!

Dems will be painted as wacky moonbat wackjobs by the msm during impeachment proceedings!

The full scope of this administration's crimes, even though fully aired during impeachment proceedings, and clear-cut enough to convince those americans still on the fence about impeachment, will be dismissed by the msm as blithering sillines, revenge for monica, sour grapes about the last 2 elections, and borderline treasonous in a time of war, therefore we must capitulate to these realities and hope the public votes for us anyway!

etc.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:18 AM
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16. I note a hint of sarcasm in your post.
:hi:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:49 AM
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17. heh i was going for a full dollop but i just re-read it
and i could see where some would miss it. I really hate using that sarcasm smiley.
:hi:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:36 PM
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18. I didn't miss it...
and it was more than a hint. :D
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:39 PM
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19. another rec from me
All I ever hear is can't do it not enough votes, I say bull to that
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:46 PM
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20. Me too!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:24 PM
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22. Hope you don't mind my stealing that pic of bull butter
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:48 PM
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24. That's OK...
I stole it. :evilgrin:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:59 PM
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26. so I can keep it then ;-)
peace
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:25 PM
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31. How about one of Congress critters? After all this is t he perfect sh+t Storm we are in
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 08:26 PM by sce56


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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:18 PM
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21. K & R
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:40 PM
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23. Failure to Impeach is Complicity - Approval - Exoneration
Yes, it really is just that simple.

And a war crime in itself.

===
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:49 PM
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25. I agree, Senator. nt
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leftist_not_liberal Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 05:53 PM
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27. Democratic Dereliction of Duty
Uh Huh

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:02 PM
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30. Actually, the exoneration comes in on the part of the Senate
Which will not vote to convict.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 06:40 PM
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28. You bet your sweet ass it is!!
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:00 PM
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29. R #30
I feel like screaming it from the rooftops -- you bastids all took a solemn oath to support and defend the Constitution, and it's way past time that you got up off your chickenshit appeaser asses and started doing so!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:26 PM
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37. That's what I'm saying!!
:yourock:
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:38 PM
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32. Yes, it is. WAKE UP CONGRESS!! Do your job. n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:09 PM
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34. But..but...think of the healing of our nation!
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 10:10 PM by Solly Mack
Think how divided America will become if there is an impeachment! Because everyone knows how united America is now! Think of all the wonderful things Congress could be doing instead!! Impeachment would put a stop to all that legislation that is benefiting the people!

We just have to wait Bush out and then, suddenly, the world will respect us again! The torture will stop and just go away! The spying will stop and just go away! The illegal detentions will stop and just go away! We can right any wrong Bush has caused - the tortured will be magically un-tortured and the illegally detained will be magically un-detained and all those years will be given back, and those who died for lies and trumped up evidence will rise up again!

But all of this is impossible if we hold the guilty accountable!









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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:16 PM
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35. You must hate the sarcasm smiley too, huh?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:17 PM
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36. Seriously
Sometimes I do add - if you have to ask
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:27 PM
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38. For real.
:hi:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:27 PM
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42. BINGO
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:48 PM
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39. K & R
If what this administration has done does not warrant impeachment, I want someone to tell me what does. No, seriously, I really want to know what the hell it would take. Apparently our Democratic representatives regard the Constitution as "just a goddamn piece of paper" too, because they are doing nothing to uphold and defend it.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:55 PM
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40. Not a single apologist has poked their head out
in this thread yet? Amazing.

Knock on wood. Oh, and recommend. :)
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 07:25 AM
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52. I noticed that.
I was waiting for someone to answer my question. :shrug:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:13 AM
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43. K and R
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:17 AM
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44. This type of thinking is pure ideology and dangerous. nt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:30 AM
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45. you're kidding, right? right? n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 07:26 AM
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53. Has to be. The tag line is a Murrow quote. nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:14 AM
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46. Wish I could rec this thread more than once! It's great to see some sanity around here!
It's also nice to see that the disinfo agents haven't spammed the hell out of this thread!

IMPEACH NOW!
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:03 AM
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47. Let's keep this thread going!
There is a reason Bush/Cheney are allowed to murder without our elected officials acting in any way. Is it the desire for the power for themselves? Have we left democracy behind for all that money and power? Reid and Pelosi have become shadows. They just want to get along?
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:13 AM
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48. if anyone respects the law-then these 2 MUST be impeached
otherwise it all counts for nothing.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:16 AM
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49. I have yet to hear a constitutional scholar or legal expert who agrees with this meme.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 07:29 AM
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55. I've yet to hear one
answer my question.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:18 AM
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50. I was thinking we should have done this for Thanksgiving, but could do it for XMas...
Have a HUGE window made... And then make TONS of Turkey dressing and put it on top of this window and deliver it to Pelosi's office on Christmas day or some business day they are open close to it... And perhaps other windows with similar globs of dressing on top of it for every other Democrat that's guilty of providing this president with "window dressing" to hide their criminal actions...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:47 AM
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51. Seriously. And wouldn't a Congressperson saying something like ...
... "Impeachment is off the table." ... be an abrogation of their Constitutional responsibility, warranting *their* removal from office?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 07:28 AM
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54. These people, that supposedly, work for us
need to pull bush's (dick) cheney out of their asses and do their jobs!!!!!!!!!
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:20 AM
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56. I Like That Jesuswasntafascist!
We hired this bunch to uphold the Constitution not let that stumpy little fascist continue to shred it!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 09:13 AM
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58. Yes, let impeachment begin
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