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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:51 PM
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Police officer applies reasonable measures to conduct traffic stop
Yeah...right.

Check this bullshit out.

Liveleak Video

That brownshirt needs to lose his job, now.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:54 PM
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1. More information:
Link

Police officials in Utah and Texas have cleared of wrong-doing officers caught on video using tasers against motorists accused of nothing more than speeding. Last month Jared Massey, 28, obtained and posted a YouTube video that showed him being tasered twice in the back by Utah Highway Patrol Trooper John Gardner while asking questions about why he was stopped (view video). In a press conference Friday, Utah Highway Patrol Superintendent Lance Davenport announced the result of its official inquiry into the incident.

O'Connor then ordered Snelling to "step out of the vehicle" while the trooper pointed a taser at the motorist. Seconds later, he fired while Snelling's mother, in the passenger seat, watched, horrified. In a copy of an internal affairs interview redacted by police, O'Connor admitted to medical problems that suggest mental instability. (View interview, 470k PDF)

"Maybe I did come across as abrupt," O'Connor said. "It's 1:10 in the afternoon and I have so I hadn't eaten. And that is a problem when you get is you're, it makes you kind of edgy."

Despite the light sanction he received, O'Connor wrote a memo to Chief Ellison that stated, "I must respectfully disagree with your decision that I violated 'Use of Force' policy." O'Connor remains on active police duty.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:58 PM
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3. A Cop mentally unstable?
:wow:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:00 PM
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4. So if I don't get my lunch on time I can run around tasering people?
Hmmm.. I wonder who should be first.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:06 PM
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7. ....
:rofl:

Does it work if you didn't get a lunch you liked, too?


Goddamn it, I didn't want PEANUT BUTTER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:11 PM
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21. I got ham on wheat.. wanna trade?
But no goddamn Twinkie...



ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:35 AM
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23. Yer KILLIN' me, here!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:04 PM
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6. MAYBE he came across as.... ABRUPT????????
And his excuse is he was HUNGRY???

Jesus H. Christ. I hope the guy sues civilly, and I hope a jury hands him a big payday.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:10 PM
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10. My boyfriend calls it "hypo-gly-bitchiness" .....fortunately, he doesn't carry a gun.
....but it's still just as dangerous.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:40 PM
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17. Don't worry, out popo are too mellow to taser.

;)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:08 PM
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8. they cleared him?
Then it is time to boycott Utah. I doubt if anybody wants to drive through a state where they might get tazed over a speeding ticket. Probably lots of people cannot avoid Utah, particularly Coloradans, but they can make it a point to fill up their tanks in Grand Junction and not buy anything else in Utah either.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:13 PM
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12. He was not tazed over a ticket
1) not signing a ticket is the same as saying your going to skip bond
2) he turned his back to the officer when ordered not to on the side of a busy highway...

Clearly I would fire the Utah cop for stupidly letting it get to that point but once there you cant make a cop wonder 'why is he turning his back and going to the car'...
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:47 PM
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18. I know the incident
the officer allowed it to escalate because some cops think they are our bosses, instead of our employees. Refusing to sign does not mean sh*t as the officer could simply have written 'refused to sign' on the ticket and let the motorist go on his way. AND HE SHOULD HAVE!!
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:53 PM
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20. Two ways to look at it
"the officer allowed it to escalate because some cops think they are our bosses, instead of our employees."

That cop was not only in the employ of the guy who got tazed, he was in the employ of all the folks who the drivers speeding was endangering.

"Refusing to sign does not mean sh*t as the officer could simply have written 'refused to sign' on the ticket and let the motorist go on his way."

Legally speaking (depending on the state) if you don't sign a ticket its the same as saying you're going to skip bond.

The officer should have done about 20 things differently but a police officer pulling over someone endangering other people with their haxderous driving should not have to deal with someone who's attitude is 'better be nice bub you work for me'
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 07:16 PM
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22. What is "haxderous driving"?
Is it driving 5 miles over the limit? Is it a new term for something that is pretty benign?

Also, you are wrong about "Legally speaking (depending on the state) if you don't sign a ticket its the same as saying you're going to skip bond."


Refusing to sign a ticket is not a crime under Utah state law. Signing a citation but then failing to show up in court, however, is a class B misdemeanor, said Salt Lake civil law attorney, Brain Bernard.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:11 PM
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11. The Utah cop was an ass but probabally within the law
but I would say both the drive and the cop were dumb about it...

Sign the ticket and be about your way...

The cop needed to explain that signing the ticket did not admit guilt and not order the guy out of the car so quickly
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:35 PM
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15. I get pissed too when I don't have my donut. n/t
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:40 PM
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16. A cop here tazered a 78 year old guy
because he couldn't hold his water and took a leak behind a bush in the park. The cop said he got combative, the old guy had alzheimer's disease.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:55 PM
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2. What a bunch of BS!!!!! That makes me so damned angry!
:argh:
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:04 PM
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5. I am sooooo pissed ....
.... that this kind of thing never happens to me.

I really wanna sue for billions (with a "b") and retire.

Damn it!
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:09 PM
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9. From watching the video -- it looked like too asses colliding.


of course the one with the taser won.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:14 PM
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13. not against the law to be an ass. this is where the police
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 05:15 PM by seabeyond
forgot along the way. they now equate ass = taser. doesnt. as pissy a job it is for the cops, they MUST maintain even with an ass.

just as we must maintain when the cop is an ass.

the thing, i think you hit on it exactly what is happening with the force. it is really feeling like punishment coming down from everywhere for being an ass.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:14 PM
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14. Just like Utah...
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:52 PM
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19. The police are increasingly using the taser to enact street elctroshock therapy for behavior
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 05:53 PM by Wizard777
modification. More simply stated. I'm going to shock you until you do as I say. This is not what the taser is for. A taser should only be used to incapacitate someone long enough to get the cuffs on them. That's it! When you have cops shocking people for minutes and not even trying to cuff them. This is torture and they should be prosecuted under torture laws. If the person dies from prolonged shocks. The should face capitol murder and execution for torture in conjunction with murder.
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