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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:10 PM
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Dan Abrams just said he believes the Bush Administration lied to us ....
Abrams said aside from whether Iran is a threat, the real issue is whether the Bush Administration lied to us when they knew better.

Pat Buchanan just agreed -- 'we were headed straight for an attack on Iran' and they knew the program was shut down in 2003.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:11 PM
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1. Neocons scraping the bottom of the barrel with Burkman shilling out there
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 08:11 PM by eleny
:rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:12 PM
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2. Jack Burkman, the DC Madam's Jack Burkman?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:14 PM
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5. Himself
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:14 PM
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6. my goodness, is he on his rebuilding tour?
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:18 PM
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11. Dear God
I knew I knew that name from somewhere.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:18 PM
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12. now picture him with a red rubber ball in his mouth, oh yeah, also assless chaps.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:47 PM
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28. He's making a comeback
No pun intended.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:28 PM
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20. oh man. this stuff just never ends
:rofl:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:12 PM
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3. And this is the reason there has been such a rush toward an inevitable attack on Iran...
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:13 PM
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4. this was a good moment for dan...
he would not let the neo-con spokesman weasel the conversation away from that question...dishonesty and have we been lied to. buchanan and rachel madow essentially agreeing with dan
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:19 PM
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13. you're not changing the subject there jack. I heard that a couple times
if the msm would do their job this would not even be an issue. A President Gore would never have invaded Iraq or alienated Iran either. If the msm was doing their jobs 7 years ago, if only then there would be a millions people still alive there would be a habitable country in Iraq but now its greatly damaged. yes keep up the good work Dan
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:15 PM
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7. What I would like to know is what the talking heads on Fox are saying.

Because if they turn against him on this NIE then his support is nil. This is just the kind of thing that could do it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:21 PM
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16. fauxnoise? They won't
even air an ad that is pro-US Constitution so they just continue to be the propoganda arm of the chimphouse.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:16 PM
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8. Abrams can be good at times - when he isn't covering missing blonde women
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:21 PM
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15. yup, Abrams along with Keith and Tweety are my favs
It would be perfect if Tucker got dropped and was replaced with Rachel or Shuster.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:26 PM
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19. I'd like to see MSNBC bring back Phil Donohue to replace Tucker
His style of show, where invited guests take questions directly from the audience, could be very interesting. That is, if he's still physically able to host such a show.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:35 PM
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22. What's wrong with Phil?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:39 PM
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25. I don't know - I hope he's okay
He's just getting up there in years and may not want a show anymore. But I hope I'm wrong and that MSNBC would give him another shot in Tucker's time slot. I think MSNBC would have another hit on their hands.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:47 PM
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29. Picture of Phil, March, 2006


He still looked pretty good a year ago! Hope he is OK.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:17 PM
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9. I know
It was beautiful.

And Pat Buchanan . . . He may be a Conservative - but at least he isn't a Neocon. I think he's seen for more than a few years ALL of the things that are wrong with his party. I do. I do.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:48 PM
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30. BTW
Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Instead of beating this into the ground, Fox is getting ready to do a story on the New Black Panthers. Lovely.


Hey, I'll let my eyes and ears bleed for you guys when you need it. I'll take one for the team. I'll report on Fox. LMAO
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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:28 PM
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32. yeah right jump
on the brothers
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:17 PM
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10. It really makes me wonder what world these guys lived after 911 because
judging from their then shows they stood behind him one hundred percent...sometimes I felt as if I was in a parrallell universe whenever I tuned into the media...abrams was one of them then..how times have changed,
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:23 PM
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17. Yep...what I was sayin'
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 08:23 PM by zidzi
the other night about Abrams. It's like KO turned the switch for them.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:37 PM
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23. When honest people hear the truth, they turn to it.
The hardest part is getting word to them through the massive coporate RW filter.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:19 PM
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14. Now we're getting somewhere!
Dan must not be afraid of the fearful bushitistas like the roving band of pressluts aka/washingtonpresscorp.

Of course they lied, Einsteins, but I know no one can say that without the ever elusive Proof..and are they gonna impeach if there's Proof?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:25 PM
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18. There will be no Impeachment of anyone unless
documented proof surfaces. So far 10 Million e-mails are missing. Were those Hard Drives erased due to Viruses? I bet they were.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:33 PM
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21. These guys aren't moving on their own . .. . someone is setting them LOOSE . . .
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:38 PM
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24. It definitely looks that way but I worry that the same people that kept
them once muzzled will have no problem doing so again and I have to wonder what the agenda is? I don't trust any of them who have changed so drastically when so many of us saw the inconsistencies so early on and yet I am to believe that these people who are much more capable of knowing far more than I were so seemingly fooled? I think we the people are the ones once again being fooled and I worry about the new reasons.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:12 PM
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31. I think . . . certainly MSNBC/GE hasn't become liberal --- but the $$$$$$$ is moving to Dems ---
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 10:06 PM by defendandprotect
MSM get 80% of the campaign money ---

So as the money moves the cooperation also moves ---

NOTE that it's not attacking Bush --- simply leaving him more open to repercussions from his
actions.

The shifting $$$ represents a shift in power coming ---
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:40 PM
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26. Boy, Abrams and Buchanan are quick, aren't they?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:42 PM
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27. That's what I was sayin...
We need more media to drive this point across. Abrams is a start.
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