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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:48 AM
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Curious to know- anyone else seen a "Homeland Security" police car on their streets yet?
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 01:14 AM by BeHereNow
I was driving on the 101 freeway today, stuck in traffic, as usual in LA,
and just happened to turn my head as a car pulled up next to me in the
lane to my left-
"Homeland Security Police" was written on the side of the car.
The car was painted differently than our usual LAPD cars, but had
the pair of standard red lights on the roof of the car.
The question in my mind though was,
"What's the difference between the LAPD and the
Homeland Security police, and when exactly did they hit the streets?"

Curious indeed.

BHN
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:52 AM
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1. Yes, about six months ago.
I, a retired social worker with several friends in law enforcement, experienced this uncontrollable urge to flip the guy off - fortunately, my kid was there and I controlled myself.

I thought, "What the bleep?"

I'm in Temecula/Murrieta, CA.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:05 AM
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9. Do you remember what it looked like?
The one I saw today was basically white, with the
"official" looking words in blue.

BHN
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Reno.Muse Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:15 AM
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18. all vehicles of the Department of Homeland Security are in this document
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:19 AM
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20. Thanks for the link- similar to page 8, but not the same title.
I did not actually see a representation of the exact car and logo I saw,
but the cars on page 8 come the closest.

BHN
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:17 AM
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19. Sounds just like an FPS cruiser
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:21 AM
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21. That's it! What do they do?
They are a federal version of police?
Why are they here?

We have regular LAPD on patrol and FBI a'plenty,
so who are the new kids on the block?

BHN
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:26 AM
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23. They've been around for a while.
The formation of DHS brought them under their umbrella. They protect all federal buildings, border stations, warehouses, etc. So if you saw them on the 101, it's not that a new police force is out on patrolling the freeways. They were most likely heading from one duty station to another. Usually you just see them parked, or taking a lap around the Federal building.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:51 AM
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28. They FN spy on people just minding their business.
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 04:53 AM by pinniped




Check out that sneaky spy periscope. I bet they also have ultra-sensitive listening devices.

I had to take these pictures discreetly because I didn't want some JBTs to storm out and take me away. :scared:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:09 PM
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35. That seems like the car ..
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 12:09 PM by Maat
only this was an SUV.

I'm a retired social worker, with friends in law enforcement; so, I asked around. Someone just made a remark in passing (that's it) that the 'officers' in question just sat around yapping with some of the local deputies.

It just plain creeped me out; I haven't seen it since then. I put up a tread at the time telling everyone how much it creeped me out.

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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:54 AM
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2. Probably a private security firm - I don't think there is any actual "Police" for DHS.
I could be wrong.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:08 AM
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12. Well that is the curious part, isn't it?
Obviously, the LAPD are a California police force-
DHS implies federal police, other than our FBI, on patrol.
BHN
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:57 AM
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3. I hate to say this, but...
If that's the truth, and there are actually homeland security cars driving around...

Damn, what can I say?

THIS IS THE GAYEST COUP EVER.

That's all I can say. I say this as a queer man, so nobody thinks this is about bashing, but DAMN George. DAMN man. WTF. :)
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:36 AM
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27. Wha?
What in the hell are you talking about?

!?!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:54 AM
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29. I think he sarcastically means the cars are wimpy-looking. They should be black,
maybe with something scary on the side to warn Enemies of the State of the "New American Coldness" with which Enemies of the State will be treated.

A couple of parallel lighting stroke, now there's something to strike terror inthe heart of those liberals, hippies, environmentalists, college-students, Constitutionalists, and other Enemies of the BushPutinist State.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:30 PM
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36. See post 29...The thing is:
That I can't see any real reason for homeland security squad cars. What are they for, handing out citations and tickets for terrorism related misdemeanors like carrying itsy bitsy bombs or tiny amounts of uranium? Obviously not, so what are they for? Its almost as if they are there for psychological effect. Yet the psychological effect of them just seems kinda ridiculous. Post 29 gives a better idea of how they "should" be. ;)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:58 AM
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4. Do they call the INS agents that now?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:10 AM
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15. Not that I know of-
It's as if a new Police force has suddenly appeared.
Sort of weird, don't you think?
BHN
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:56 AM
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30. Not weird at all. It's the same "new" police force that ALWAYS appears in Totalitarian States
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 06:57 AM by tom_paine
like Imperial Amerika.

Not to worry. The "kinder and gentler SS" is your friend.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 07:15 AM
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33. Nope those guy are now called ICE
Not sure what the acronym stands for, but I've seen black school buses with ICE on the side of them.

-Hoot
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:37 PM
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37. Immigration Control and Enforcement. n/t

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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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40. actually, Immigration and Customs Enforcement
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:00 AM
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5. i've been seeing them for a while now
i'm in northern colorado...it's been at least a year since i first saw one
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:01 AM
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6. I saw a caravan of trucks
About a year ago, that said "Department Of Homeland Security." But I haven't seen what you describe.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:02 AM
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7. Not.....yet..... Ew.
The 101 runs through Santa Barbara; sure it's a hundred miles north of LA, but it feels so ... connected.

Creepy.

Hekate

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:07 AM
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11. Not far at all... the other curious vehicle I saw a few minutes later was
a solid black van- government plates with four US flags
flying at the back of the roof.
I gotta say, the whole thing creeped me out.

BHN
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:03 AM
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8. I've seen quite a few
But it's for the local county "homeland security" office. Apparantly every state/county/city has one now?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:12 AM
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17. I didn't know that-
So basically, Federal police are now working along side
local / state police?

Why?
What's wrong with the police we already have?
Are we paying extra for them?

BHN
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:25 AM
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22. No, I think it's local police
Or at least, here it is. They're just part of a new dept. for "homeland security/emergency management" that sprung up post 9/11.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:06 AM
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10. They're around. I've seen them in Chicago.
A quick google found this blog/thread on the subject:

http://dragonballyee.com/blog/2006/08/17/homeland-secur...
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:09 AM
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13. Could have been US Federal Protective Service
They are a component of DHS responsible for securing Federal Buildings and facilities. I've seen their squad cars and they have the standard "POLICE" written on the car along with a DHS seal.

As far as I'm aware, this is the only law enforcement component of DHS that identifies itself as police.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:09 AM
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14. I've seen one, about 3 months ago
But it was near the DFW International airport, so I didn't really think twice about it.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:10 AM
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16. no but i see commercials
with scary things saying not to push the panic button when disaster hits!
hehe
scary music with scenes of destruction.

gotta love the fear machine.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:57 AM
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24. I see a lot of DHS survillence vans on the road.
On I-35.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:01 AM
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25. In Downtown Denver
I've seen their SUV's consistently for about 4 years now.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:23 AM
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26. Not on the streets, but a whole garage full of them underneath my favorite movie theatre
What they're doing parked underneath my movie theatre, and whether they ever hit the streets, I don't know. :shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:59 AM
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32. Peasant control. Intimidation and control of Enemies of the BushPutinist State.
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 07:00 AM by tom_paine
facilitation of direct executive control over the Imperial provinces and the Imperial Subjects of Amerika.

The Imperial Congress is being taken out of the loop.

It is a Triumph of the Will.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:58 AM
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31. I saw one belonging to Forest Park, Georgia
A very poor suburb of Atlanta.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 07:26 AM
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34. World Can't Wait rally-Oct '06
We were a small group, the organizer submitted two photos, and no one knows who submitted the report. The Homeland Security vehicle stopped at the light in front of us. Someone said the guy inside waved to us. There was another guy there taping the entire time we were there. We were a small group, knew everyone, so this was kind of freaky....None of us would have described the little girl as "bragging".....
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_conte...

peace~
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:39 PM
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38. I saw Homeland Security Police shut down a Union press conference
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 02:43 PM by Stephanie
It was in lower Manhattan. There were about 20 union folks and ten reporters gathered for a press conf on immigration. The cops came over and said they were on Federal property (it was a city street as far as I knew, but across from the Federal bldg) and they had to apply to the State Dept for a permit for the press conference. I took notes I was so shocked. There were about six Homeland Security Police cars surrounding these union folks.



*edit* I actually found my notes from that day which I emailed to a friend - it was August 30th >

I just walked by this press conference on the sidewalk outside 290 Broadway. It was UniteHere, SEIU, 32BJ - about 20 people speaking and holding signs and maybe 12 reporters and cameras, regarding the SSA No-Match Letters. There were about ten Homeland Security Police cars surrounding them (I didn't know Homeland Security had it's own police!). Then a NYPD cop came over and told the organizers they were not allowed to hold a press conference there without a FEDERAL permit. He siad they were on federal curteledge (sp?) and they had to apply for a permit from the GSA if they wanted to have a press conference there. The organizer said she thought it was a public sidewalk and all they needed was a sound permit. The cop said this sidewalk was on federal property so she needed federal permission to be there. It was across the street from the Javits federal building, on Duane Street btw Bway & Centre.

The event was organized by the New York Immigration Coalition. I thought it was pretty outrageous. Homeland Security shutting down a press conference protesting SSA policy.


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:54 PM
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39. no- but i have seen a "postal police" squad car...
it was on a snowy saturday night in february, my wife and i were driving south on clark street just south of hollywood ave on the north side of chicago- i saw a squad car coming at us northbound, so i pulled over to let it pass. as it passed- it was a white car with red mars lights on top, and on the side it said simply: Poastal Police, and here it was zooming north at high speed lights and sirens blaring, around 10pm on a saturday night.

i still wonder...why?

i didn't even know there was a "postal police" let alone that they would have actual squad cars... :shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:27 PM
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45. Yes, the Postal Service has had its own police force
to combat things like mail fraud (federal crime), or breaking and entering, (federal Crime) for literally decades

If they were responding code 3 you betcha an alarm somewhere at a postal service facility went off
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:18 PM
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41. yes, here in sacramento
at the federal building. lots of 'em.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:18 PM
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42. Yep. In Mendocino County. n/t
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:20 PM
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43. Yup. It had no lights though.
not even the 'hidden' lights, so I suspect it's simply a conveyance. It was also not an 'interceptor' model of car, so I doubt it was going to do any chasing people down either.

The DHS logo was HUGE though. I guess it makes it easier to target?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:20 PM
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44. These are Federal Police and they are here to protect FEDERAL installations
IN fact they have been around far longer than DHS.

Their mission is to protect all federal buildings and their tennants... And yes they have regular patrol cars and SWAT units, as well as any other component of a police force. Hell, they are the ones running those services in Hawaii for Navy housing, so you could say I have seen then in my street even before DHS was formed
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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46. Interesting, as was your other bit of information...
You know that to which I refer.

:evilgrin:
Check your PM
BHN
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