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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 04:37 PM
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Report contradicts Bush on Iran nuclear program
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 04:40 PM by lonestarnot
http://www.yahoo.com/s/751091

1 hour, 40 minutes ago
By Matt Spetalnick

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A new U.S. intelligence report says Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and it remains on hold, contradicting the Bush administration's earlier assertion that Tehran was intent on developing a bomb.

The National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released on Monday could undermine U.S. efforts to convince other world powers to agree on a third package of U.N. sanctions against Iran for defying demands to halt uranium enrichment activities.

Tensions have escalated in recent months as Washington has ratcheted up the rhetoric against Tehran, with U.S. President George W. Bush insisting in October that a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War Three.

But in a finding likely to surprise U.S. friends and foes alike, the latest NIE concluded: "We do not know whether (Iran) currently intends to develop nuclear weapons."

That marked a sharp contrast to an intelligence report two years ago that stated Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapons."

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 05:12 PM
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1. There should be a million hits on this. I just formatted the post and for once
I didn't double post. K*R with a vengance. Here's more

CONSORTIUMNEWS.COM

A Miracle: Honest Intel on Iran Nukes


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/120307.html

By Ray McGovern
December 3, 2007


For those who have doubts about miracles, a double one occurred today. An honest National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Irans nuclear program has been issued and its Key Judgments were made public.

Snip

This time Cheney and his neo-con colleagues were unable to abort the process. And after delivery to the press, this child is going to be very hard to explainthe more so since it is legitimate.

The main points of the NIE:

We judge that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program...
We assess with moderate confidence Tehran has not restarted its nuclear weapons program as of mid-2007.
We do not have sufficient intelligence to judge confidently whether Tehran is willing to maintain the halt of its nuclear weapons program indefinitely...
We judge with moderate confidence Iran probably would be technically capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium sometime during the 2010-2015 time frame.
We judge with high confidence that Iran will not be technically capable of producing and reprocessing enough plutonium for a weapon before about 2015.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 06:22 PM
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3. He must be sick which we knew, but really sick for this to get around him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 06:59 PM
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6. If this isn't another grounds for impeachment, just what the fuck is?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:02 PM
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11. It is that!
And they don't have a clue about impeachment, Congress that is. It's their obligation.

The good news is that they Resident is now out of power. This can't happen 2-3-4 years ago, but it's
happening now. He must be trashing the Oval Office ;), popping a Lone Star long neck, pounding down twinkies. It's an ugly thought...

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 05:25 PM
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2. And Osama was determined to strike within the U.S., but they didn't do anything then...
Of course, Osama isn't a country sitting of a big, fat oil field.

You gotta pick your fights.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 06:30 PM
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4. Yes one does need to pick his/her fights, and this is one I would be pick'n.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 06:43 PM
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5. kick and Don't forget the Downing Street Memo! DSM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:00 PM
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7. And the report is one year old
so Bushco has been lying as usual.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:03 PM
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8. k&r
The report from two years ago has Cheney's rubber stamp all over it.



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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:34 PM
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9. Facts? When did facts ever stop this administration?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:35 PM
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10. Translation: There's no evidence Iran ever had a nuclear weapons program, so
we'll say we think they stopped in 2003!

Then all the talking heads will accept it as proven that Iran actually had a nuclear weapons program in 2003!

And we'll be able to argue about: (1) whether our exciting Iraq adventure convinced Iran to end the nuclear weapons program they never had or (if you prefer) (2) whether Iran really ever ended the nuclear weapons program they never had!

It's a win-win! :grr:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:48 PM
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12. I'm glad you're not my translator!
;)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:25 PM
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13. U.S. Levels Accusations Against Iranian Weapons Programs (June 2003)
Paul Kerr
The United States has been levying charges against Iran similar to those it made against Iraq prior to the March invasion of that country, including harboring the al Qaeda terrorist network and pursuing weapons of mass destruction programs ... Washington has long expressed the belief that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons program, but the IAEA has never found any of Irans nuclear activities to be in violation of its IAEA safeguards agreement ... http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_06/iran_june03.asp

Experts: No firm evidence of Iranian nuclear (Nov 2007)
weaponshttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/21067.html



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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:44 PM
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14. Thanks for the links.
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