Why defend Pelosi if she REFUSES to defend us?

[lame54]

This country is going down the toilet http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hr8k8WHTzN0
and she refuses to use the only real defense we have.
the ONLY reason not to impeach someone is that they haven't committed any impeachable offenses
the list of Bush's impeachable offenses grows longer everyday
if he is allowed to finish his term all his bullshit constitutional shredding laws will be permanently in place

[jpgray]

1. Because the opposition to the GOP is weak enough, and weakening it further doesn't make sense to me

If there were a viable alternative ready to go in '08, that would make more sense. If you're talking about just criticism and activism, not final action such as abandoning the Democrats entirely or actively trying to defeat them in '08, then I completely agree. Pelosi should be bullied, criticized, and harassed by folks who want her to stand up to Bush.

[lame54]

3. We haven't won anything yet

Don't count on a Democratic landslide - the GOP still knows how to steal elections and they are ready to fight as dirty as you've ever seen to stay in power. They must be exposed for what they are and we need a reversal of their poisonous policies.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCutvXccFlA

[mmonk]

7. It's not about weakening the republican party.

It's about the weakening of our democracy. Those who do not serve democracy's purpose oppose it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Cui Bono?Who benefits

standard question in conspiracy investigations... and certainly proper here

[lvx35]

4. They're refusing to fund this latest round without a plan to bring the troops home:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gZidry-RdE73KjqitCR5l4V4rExw

[peacebird]

5. Will they hold the line or will they fold before the holidays? That is the question.

[Fredda Weinberg]

6. Another reason not to impeach is that the electorate has no stomach for it

I had the same feelings after Iran Contra - the republic has survived. We'll get past this too.

[MadHound]

8. At what cost

Everytime we let an administration have a free pass, it only emboldens future administrations to commit even more heinous crimes. We let Nixon off the hook when he resigned, criminal charges weren't brought, even though they should have. Instead, the so called "experts" said that it was time to heal, not a time for vengeance(though how pursuing justice could be considered vengeance I don't know). This emboldened Reagan and Bush I to pursue even greater crimes, BCCI, Iran Contra, etc. We didn't even make a pretense of pursuing justice on those, we paid up, we took the sacrificial goat, and went on. That emboldened this criminal cabal even further, and thus we have an administration that has committed many high crimes against the country, yet our so called leaders are once again not wanting to pursue justice. Instead they mouth pious platitudes about not wanting to wreck the country, be divisive, etc. Which is worse, taking down a corrupt and rotten administration in a long nasty process that produces justice, or letting these people get away with their crimes one more time, setting the scene for even greater abuses in the future?

It is past time that we started applying justice to all, including those in the highest offices. If we don't, well, it will destroy our country. That is a scenario that I don't want to see, do you?

[Fredda Weinberg]

14. I remember feeling that despair. But there's a similarity ...

The administration always gets the benefit of the doubt, so when the issues involve policy, not personal avarice, a solid case has to be built before the public will support it. Heck, I remember Nixon pre-Watergate ... everyone knew but no one could act. It took tapes - actual smoking gun evidence of personal involvement - and then you saw the tide shift.

I'm not responsible for the way things are - or for recognizing familiar patterns. I can only advise you that our nation has faced greater perils and endured. We can recover this time as well.

[mmonk]

10. The system isn't intact anymore.

Saying the pendulum will always swing back is the view of a future citizen of an unfree nation.

[Fredda Weinberg]

15. There are long term trends. I work to affect them. n/t

[Tesha]

12. I think the jury is still out on whether we survived Iran-Contra.

> I had the same feelings after Iran Contra - the republic has survived.

I think the jury is still out on whether we survived
Iran-Contra; the criminals who participated in that
affair but were not punished are the same criminals
who are now running our government.

Prosecuting and convicting the Iran-Contra criminals
would have deprived a Bush administration of much of
its senior staff.

Tesha

[Perry Logan]

9. Because the Democrats are our only shot.

[RC]

11. The Democratic Party is controlled by DINO's.

So don't hold your breath.

[Tesha]

13. The existence of Bernie Sanders proves this isn't so. (NT)

[Echo In Light]

16. It's not her first priority to "defend us," but to preserve the aims of the system

"Us" is just the obstacle which prevents the system doing whatever it wants. The mainline media is this country is the vehicle for aligning "us" with the aims and goals of the system. You can call that corporatism, the military-industrial complex, expansion of empire, etc. Bottom line, tis fascism.

[focusfan]

17. i couldn't agree more

Pelosi has let Bush/Cheney get away with too much

[Pavulon]

18. We do not live in Pakistan..

our elected officials SHOULD not be impeached unless a clear crime has been committed, and a conviction is the probable outcome. We dont so that.

That is not a real possibility. So he finishes his term and leaves office. A 220 year old tradition.

[Joe Fields]

19. You do not have to commit a crime to be impeached.

A politician is not tried in a court of law, but by the house of representatives. Although, in this case, bush has committed several crimes, and if investigated well enough, would be easy to prove.

Pelosi is a blight to our party and to America. She is a traitor.