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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:44 PM
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Are WAR monuments versus PEACE monuments an INDICATOR of our society?
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:50 PM
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1. We haven't had many outbreaks of peace to commemorate.
Plus, people tend to *not* die during peace, hence the lack of a monument.

But you're right. Analysing our use of language leads to some disturbing conclusions.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:54 PM
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2. People haven't DIED for peace?
Are you serious?
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:02 PM
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9. You missed the point.
You're trying to compare a tangible event to an intangible status.

You don't declare peace, you declare war.
You don't fight peaces, you fight wars.
You don't die during peaces, you die during wars.

The actual physical war is not a counterpoint to peace. The status of "being at war" is the opposite of "being at peace". Since there is no actual fighting or "war" during times of peace, very few people die as a direct result of them.

This is a semantic argument, not a personal one. Before you try and insult my intelligence again by presuming I support a completely ridiculous, incorrect viewpoint.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:58 PM
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3. No. n/t
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:06 PM
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6. But,....we have overwhelming, literally, monuments about war.
Those monuments are, like, lies,...a perpetuation of a myth about this country's influence upon this world.

I realize our society WANTS TO BELIEVE itself something "special". But, this society has SERVED a delusion, an information-controlled fiction about itself. In spite of reality, this society is still ingesting delusion.

Doesn't that say something about our society? Doesn't the fact that, our society doesn't DEMAND PEACE say something about itself?
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:12 PM
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8. I'm guessing you haven't traveled much outside the US
If you think this is something unique to the US, you need to visit Europe.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:59 PM
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4. depends how you look at a war monument
I look at them as commemorating the END of a particular war, not celebrating that it was fought.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:00 PM
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5. it's an indicator of how corrupted the media are in doing their job of informed consent.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:07 PM
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7. Informed consent is an enemy of the corporate state. eom
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:09 PM
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10. The "war monument" in my town
is basically a memorial to the local soldiers who died during both World Wars. I don't believe that it is celebrating the act of war. If anything it is grieving the fact that people lost their lives during war.

We have a peace monument too, but unlike the war memorial it is not on city property.
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