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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:14 PM
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Rudy, Rudy, Rudy, you rat!
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 08:37 PM by ProSense

Rudy's Ties to a Terror Sheikh

Ciuliani's business contracts tie him to the man who let 9/11's mastermind escape the FBI

by Wayne Barrett
November 27th, 2007 3:39 PM

Three weeks after 9/11, when the roar of fighter jets still haunted the city's skyline, the emir of gas-rich Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifah al-Thani, toured Ground Zero. Although a member of the emir's own royal family had harbored the man who would later be identified as the mastermind of the attacka man named Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, often referred to in intelligence circles by his initials, KSMal-Thani rushed to New York in its aftermath, offering to make a $3 million donation, principally to the families of its victims. Rudy Giuliani, apparently unaware of what the FBI and CIA had long known about Qatari links to Al Qaeda, appeared on CNN with al-Thani that night and vouched for the emir when Larry King asked the mayor: "You are a friend of his, are you not?"

"We had a very good meeting yesterday. Very good," said Giuliani, adding that he was "very, very grateful" for al-Thani's generosity. It was no cinch, of course, that Giuliani would take the money: A week later, he famously rejected a $10 million donation from a Saudi prince who advised America that it should "adopt a more balanced stand toward the Palestinian cause." (Giuliani continues to congratulate himself for that snub on the campaign trail.) Al-Thani waited a month before expressing essentially the same feelings when he returned to New York for a meeting of the U.N. General Assembly and stressed how important it was to "distinguish" between the "phenomenon" of 9/11 and "the legitimate struggles" of the Palestinians "to get rid of the yoke of illegitimate occupation and subjugation." Al-Thani then accused Israel of "state terrorism" against the Palestinians.

But there was another reason to think twice about accepting al-Thani's generosity that Giuliani had to have been aware of, even as he heaped praise on the emir. Al Jazeera, the Arabic news network based in Qatar (pronounced "Cutter"), had been all but created by al-Thani, who was its largest shareholder. The Bush administration was so upset with the coverage of Osama bin Laden's pronouncements and the U.S. threats to bomb Afghanistan that Secretary of State Colin Powell met the emir just hours before Giuliani's on-air endorsement and asked him to tone down the state-subsidized channel's Islamist footage and rhetoric. The six-foot-eight, 350-pound al-Thani, who was pumping about $30 million a year into Al Jazeera at the time, refused Powell's request, citing the need for "a free and credible media." The administration's burgeoning distaste for what it would later brand "Terror TV" was already so palpable that Kinghardly a newsmanasked the emir if he would help "spread the word" that the U.S. was "not targeting the average Afghan citizen." Al-Thani ignored the questionright before Giuliani rushed in to praise him again.

In retrospect, Giuliani's embrace of the emir appears peculiar. But it was only a sign of bigger things to come: the launching of a cozy business relationship with terrorist-tolerant Qatar that is inconsistent with the core message of Giuliani's current presidential campaign, namely that his experience and toughness uniquely equip him to protect America from what he tauntingly calls "Islamic terrorists"an enemy that he always portrays himself as ready to confront, and the Democrats as ready to accommodate.

The contradictory and stunning reality is that Giuliani Partners, the consulting company that has made Giuliani rich, feasts at the Qatar trough, doing business with the ministry run by the very member of the royal family identified in news and government reports as having concealed KSMthe terrorist mastermind who wired funds from Qatar to his nephew Ramzi Yousef prior to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and who also sold the idea of a plane attack on the towers to Osama bin Ladenon his Qatar farm in the mid-1990s.

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Digby: Rudy's Got Secret(s).

"Rudy Giuliani was a C-plus Mayor who has become an A-plus myth"

"Rudy Giuliani may turn out to be the sleaziest presidential candidate ever"

Bonus:

TPM's Ultimate Kerik Scandal List!

Bonus 2 (the height of hypocrisy):

Flashback: Rudy Refused $10 Million Gift From Saudi Prince Who Blamed America For 9/11

By Greg Sargent - November 8, 2007, 1:42PM

Here's still more on Rudy's acceptance of Pat Robertson's endorsement despite his agreement that America "deserved" 9/11.

A rival campaign points out that back in 2001, Rudy very publicly turned down a $10 million donation for disaster relief from a Saudi prince because the prince had suggested that U.S. Mideast policies had contributed to the 9/11 attacks.

During a visit to Ground Zero shortly after the disaster, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal offered condolences to Americans and handed Rudy a $10 million relief check. But the Prince also said that America "must address some of the issues that led to such a criminal attack." In response, Rudy rejected the money because of the prince's suggestion that the U.S. was in any way remotely responsible for the disaster, saying:

"I entirely reject that statement," Giuliani said. "There is no moral equivalent for this act. There is no justification for it. The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification for it when they slaughtered 4,000 or 5,000 innocent people."

The rejection of the Saudi prince's $10 million is a big point of pride for Rudy, something he currently brings up as proof of his anti-terrorism zeal.

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And who is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal: one of Citigroup's largest shareholder.


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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:16 PM
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1. Stick A Fork In Him
Rudy's done.

Next.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:23 PM
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2. ProSense, a howdy and also a thank-you.
Good article.

I like the post because it nudges the public dialogue along in the direction I love to see it go -- with Giuliani's candidacy being shoved over a very high cliff.

And most of the man's troubles are self-inflicted wounds.

He's all ego-thug. A walking attitude instead of a human with a viewpoint.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:25 PM
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6. Hi OC.
No, thank you!

:rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:30 PM
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8.  !
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:26 PM
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3. I have visions of Rudy being frog-marched, in orange or stripes
and handcuffs... he's in deep.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:30 PM
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4. buh-bye, Rudy. See ya.
Or maybe not.

(Thanks, ProSense!)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:26 PM
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7. Thanks, I like the gif! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:10 PM
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5. Kick! nt
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:37 PM
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9. O.K., so what we need is a Dem nominee who is going to RAKE HIS ASS with ALL the "allegations"!1 n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:00 AM
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10. City Said to Have Paid Bills as Giuliani Affair Began

City Said to Have Paid Bills as Giuliani Affair Began

By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
Published: November 29, 2007

Late in his tenure as mayor of New York, Rudolph W. Giuliani billed tens of thousands of dollars in travel expenses to little-known city agencies as he was beginning an extramarital affair, a political Web site reported yesterday.

The report, on the Politico Web site, cited documents obtained under the New York State Freedom of Information Law. But it was unclear from those documents whether Mr. Giuliani allocated those travel costs, from 1999 through 2001, to obscure city offices in an attempt to conceal expenses associated with the relationship or for some accounting purpose.

The administration of Mr. Giulianis successor, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, said in 2002, several months after taking office, that the Giuliani administration had kept the budget for the mayors office artificially low by paying more than $5 million in salaries through other city agencies. The agencies to which Mr. Giuliani billed the travel expenses were outside the mayors office.

<...>

The documents obtained by Politico, described as American Express bills and travel documents, detailed hotel, gas and other costs for the detectives on trips to Southampton, N.Y. The woman with whom Mr. Giuliani was having an affair, Judith Nathan, who became his third wife, had a condominium in the Long Island beach community.

<...>

But the unusual accounting practices highlighted by the Politico Web site, in which the costs for the security details travel expenses were billed to small agencies, had not before been reported. The disclosure served to refocus attention on that period of Mr. Giulianis life with just over a month before the first votes are cast in the Iowa caucuses.

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Sahara08 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:11 AM
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11. Every Allegation Possible, it seems
. . . and yet the man remains a front runner for the Republican nomination.

This man was one of the prime enablers of 9/11. And yet, he is painted as a hero of that day, as he was photographed walking through the asbestos-laden Manhattan air the following morning without a respirator.

Now, for a bit of irony:

The asbestos-related diseases associated with that event are ALREADY beginning to surface in firefighters, office workers, police officers, bystanders and local residents. This fact is stunning, since asbestos-related diseases often have a latency period (exposure-to-onset) ranging from 15 to 30 years.

I wonder how Rudy's feeling these days . . .
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:05 PM
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12. "Good lord, it gets worse..."
From Carpetbagger Report:

* Good lord, it gets worse: Well before it was publicly known he was seeing her, then-married New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani provided a police driver and city car for his mistress Judith Nathan, former senior city officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com. She used the PD as her personal taxi service, said one former city official who worked for Giuliani.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:21 AM
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13. NYT: Citing Statistics, Giuliani Misses Time and Again
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 11:21 AM by ProSense

Citing Statistics, Giuliani Misses Time and Again

By MICHAEL COOPER
Published: November 30, 2007

In almost every appearance as he campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination, Rudolph W. Giuliani cites a fusillade of statistics and facts to make his arguments about his successes in running New York City and the merits of his views.

Discussing his crime-fighting success as mayor, Mr. Giuliani told a television interviewer that New York was the only city in America that has reduced crime every single year since 1994. In New Hampshire this week, he told a public forum that when he became mayor in 1994, New York had been averaging like 1,800, 1,900 murders for almost 30 years. When a recent Republican debate turned to the question of fiscal responsibility, he boasted that under me, spending went down by 7 percent.

All of these statements are incomplete, exaggerated or just plain wrong. And while, to be sure, all candidates use misleading statistics from time to time, Mr. Giuliani has made statistics a central part of his candidacy as he campaigns on his record.

For instance, another major American city claims to have reduced crime every year since 1994: Chicago. New York averaged 1,514 murders a year during the three decades before Mr. Giuliani took office; it did not record more than 1,800 homicides until 1980. And Mr. Giulianis own memoir states that spending grew an average of 3.7 percent for most of his tenure; an aide said Mr. Giuliani had meant to say that he had proposed a 7 percent reduction in per capita spending during his time as mayor.

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The sad thing is that the NYT could have written this article many times before. It would have been more effective to call him out before creating the myth.



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