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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:55 AM
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I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich in the CA primary....regardless of his "chances"
Anyone with me?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 AM
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1. same here in NYS my friend
:hi:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:58 AM
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2. Me too. Win, lose or draw, this time I'm voting my conscience,
not some "winning strategy".
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:59 AM
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3. When is the primary now? February 5th?
Front loading is crazy. When RFK was shot wasn't the California primary held in June?
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:01 AM
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4. CA primaries were usually in June
until now
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:03 AM
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5. Exactly what you should do. So is my mom.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:04 AM
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6. another californian here, voting for DK....
w00t!
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:08 AM
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8. I'd love to see Dennis get double digits in CA
:)
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:11 AM
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12. what a dream it would be if DK could get delegates in
say two congressional districts. I'd start with Pelosi's district and East Bay.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:18 AM
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14. Those would be the mostly likely
What an amazing thing that would be
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:17 AM
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66. If Kucinich had a sizeable delegation to attempt to influence
the National convention - rules; seems, even there democracy is stacked against challengers. In the past convention rules require an absurd number of delegate votes to even file a minority report.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:27 PM
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46. Please let me know, Mike, if you are willing to become a DK volunteer.
We sent out stuff to the DK team leaders, who, in turn, distribute it to the volunteers.

My friend and business partner is his California volunteer coordinator; please let me know if you want to become more involved in the campaign.

Thanks,
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:36 PM
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52. what exactly would a volunteer do?
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 06:37 PM by Faye
because I have honestly been thinking of doing it. I just want it to be in an 'official' way associated with the campaign.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:49 PM
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55. Good question.
I'm the DK Team Leader for the 45th, and I help with the 49th, so I should know. Heehee.

Well, I've gotten to be in on some really neat conference calls, and I got send some very neat campaign stuff to pass around.

Soon, I think that we are going to be asked to do some canvassing.

AND, during the conference calls and meetings, you get briefed on candidate appearances, and so forth.

No one will ask you to participate at a level that is impossible or anything.

Can you PM with an email address and your Congressional District number (e.g. I'm here in Murrieta, and am in the 49th, on the border of the 45th)?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:51 PM
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56. I'm not in CA
I'm in NJ. I just figured you'd know some answers, and you did, so thank you! I do have a question though - what is canvassing anyway?
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:55 PM
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58. Oh, darn!
I'm going to go to the doors of registered Democratic voters with information, most probably.

I did it for John Kerry in Arizona in 2004.

Hey, if you still want to volunteer, I can ask about the New Jersey contact.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:56 PM
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59. ok sure
let me know if you find out. thank you! :)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:02 PM
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60. Sure will (n/t).
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:04 AM
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7. In the end, it's the votes that count
...not the media or the pollsters. Vote Kooch!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:09 AM
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9. Voting and working for
Fundraising in Charlottesville, VA Dec 7
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:09 AM
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10. Yes for Ohio.
We bought 100 Kucinich buttons and are having some interesting talks with folks as we wear them. I always have an extra in my pocket to give away. Many people are frustrated and willing to go out on the web and educate themselves. No bad comments yet. Peace, Kim
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:25 PM
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45. Are you already a DK volunteer?
If you are interested, let me know. I'm a DK Team Leader, and my business partner (in a venture) and friend is his volunteer coordinator for Cal.

Please let me know ... anyone who wants to be an official volunteer in California!

Thanks,
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:09 AM
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11. congratulations don' t let the corporate odds makers
tell you who to vote for. Vote your vote by your interests, not the corporate masters of the likes of Wolf Blitzer.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:15 AM
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13. Yup, I'm with you.
He may also get my general write-in vote as well, depending on who the Dem candidate is.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:21 AM
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15. Yep. He sure as hell can't win if we DON'T vote for him.
And I don't happen to believe many polls anymore.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:17 PM
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16. Avoiding the polls is the best thing to do before the primaries
Sometimes I think the polls are there to guide our vote.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:54 PM
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21. And I think you are 100% correct. Consider the source - aren't they mostly
brought to us courtesy of the MSM??
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:01 PM
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22. Yep. A lot of CNN, Time Warner....
I worry that the repetition of the frontrunner's name is enough to get people to vote for her/him.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:18 PM
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17. yep
And I told my sis the same, don't tell me he is unelectable... she likes him... vote for him

The media wants YOU to believe he is unelectable
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:19 PM
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18. So that makes two of us in San Diego
Maybe we can get a third?

:)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:28 PM
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48. Are you involved in DK's campaign ..
please let me know if you aren't ... and you want to be!
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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:29 PM
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19. Me,
I'll be the guy who votes for him in Texas.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:31 PM
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20. Me.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:05 PM
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23. I'll represent Oregon
I'm sure I can gather up a few others to join us!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:37 PM
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62. I'm here, too.
:hi:
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:23 AM
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69. Last Demo convention
Oregon, Minnesota, and Hawaii need be proud. They had the biggest Kucinich delegations.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:15 PM
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24. Another Californian here...
I will be voting for Kucinich as well. I have come to realize that he is the only candidate who speaks for me.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:04 PM
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43. Me too!
:)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:29 PM
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50. Please let me, Maat, know ..
if you want to become involved in the campaign (see post below).

Thanks,

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:47 PM
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25. I've been with Dennis since last cycle. Now, however, I'm wavering...
seems DK is open to having a racist, anti-choice libertarian who's still pining for the gold standard on the ticket, as long as he's against the war. :scared:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:52 PM
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26. You mean Ron Paul?
?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:59 PM
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27. Ding ding ding! We have a winner. No more calls, please.
I provided a helpful link to our ongoing discussion about this bizarre development, above.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:13 PM
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32. Maybe Dennis is just trying to keep the Dems who support Paul in his own column
I'll bet his staff has seen all the Ron Paul threads on DU and is watching the polls.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:25 PM
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35. Intriguing -- but DK is the last guy I'd expect to see
engaging in that kind of naked Realpolitik. That's what I liked about him in the first place. What's a boy to do?
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:30 PM
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37. But maybe he doesn't see it that way. Or maybe he actually cares about the Constitution
and feels that this issue is the most important one of our time, dwarfing all the others.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:30 PM
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51. I have passed the word along ..
about the concern on DU.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:40 PM
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53. awesome
I'd like to see it put to rest :/
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:46 PM
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54. Yeah.
:thumbsup:

Hopefully, it will be laid to rest.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:06 PM
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28. Self-Deleted
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 05:30 PM by goodgd_yall
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:08 PM
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29. :woohoo:
:woohoo:
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:10 PM
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30. You can take your vote, his chances, and Ron Paul, and put it right here:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:28 PM
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49. Is that so? hhhhhmmmmf.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:11 PM
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31. Boku da!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:15 PM
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33. Oh, God. I've always loved the name "Elspeth"
Whenever I meet someone named Elizabeth, I always call them Elspeth.

And, yes, of course, on the Kucinich thing.

"Das geht ohne zu sagen."
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:31 PM
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38. I kinda like it myself. :)
:hi:

Nice to meet you!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:17 PM
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34. Same here in San Diego
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 05:18 PM by tjwash
Looks like 3 San Diegans at least
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:31 PM
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40. Yay! (Do I hear a 4th? A 4th San Diegan?)
:D
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:27 PM
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47. I think there are only 8 or 9 Democrats in the whole city.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 06:52 PM by tjwash
:hi:
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:27 PM
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36. Maybe a week ago I would have agreed
But it's obvious from his comments re: Ron Paul that he's not the man I hoped he was.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:31 PM
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39. I'm not a Dennis supporter
But vote for whomever you want to, that's what I say.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:34 PM
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41. Like others have said, vote with your heart
Vote on your principles. Even though I've dropped DK as a candidate, I'm voting for a candidate who is unlikely to earn the domination, regardless.

Here's to following our guts and hearts!

:yourock:



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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:45 PM
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42. Agreed!
:)
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:22 PM
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44. Voting for Dennis .... in California!
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 06:31 PM by Maat
To my fellow Kucinich voters!

:toast:

PLEASE, DUers, let me know, if you live in California, if you would like to be a part of the volunteer campaign team.

Thanks,

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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:54 PM
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57. Voting Dennis Kucinich in Washington
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:57 AM
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63. The primary vote is worthless. You must attend the caucus to get delegates for Kucinich
No 15% threshold at the precinct level either. If you don't understand the caucus system, PM me.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:36 PM
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61. Me too, in the state to your north. ;) n/t
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:05 AM
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64. I'm in and I just sent him $50 he needs all he can get to recive the Feds Matching $
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:32 AM
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65. You and millions more around the country.
I know a lot of people here in LA that are just sick of the political posturing going on. They tell me "I'm voting for Dennis in the primary no matter what his chances are because he votes the right way when it matters."

It's hard to argue with that.

Good for you. I'm still up in the air, leaning toward Biden.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:18 AM
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67. Always let your conscience be your guide
(courtesy of Jiminy Cricket)

:hi:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:21 PM
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71. :)
:hi:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:27 AM
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68. yup
gotta vote my conscience.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:27 AM
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70. I'm with you
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 11:27 AM by mvd
Kucinich is still a politician. More straight-shooting than usual, but since he's basically being ignored, Kucinich is making a point. Would I have said the same thing? No. But I do not believe that if Kucinich had a real chance that he would entertain the notion of nominating Paul.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:12 PM
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72. Yes, indeed. This will be the second time

I've voted for Dennis in the presidential primaries. I haven't felt as good about voting for someone since McCarthy and McGovern back in the Sixties! :hippie:
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