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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:45 PM
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Romney: Muslims not needed in Cabinet

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/7059.html

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, asked about putting a Muslim in his presidential Cabinet, said that he “cannot see that a Cabinet position would be justified” based on the percentage of Muslims in the U.S., according to an Islamic businessman who asked the question at a fundraising reception.

Kevin Madden, Romney’s national press secretary, told Politico: “At this point, we're not focused on what Gov. Romney's Cabinet might look like. But the governor does not believe that in order to effectively fight radical jihad you need to have Muslims serving in the Cabinet.”

Mansoor Ijaz, a New York financier and commentator of Pakistani ancestry, says the exchange with Romney occurred at a closed fundraiser in Las Vegas in mid-November. Ijaz describes himself “an American-born citiz

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As Ijaz recounted the exchange in an opinion piece in Tuesday’s Christian Science Monitor, “I asked Mr. Romney whether he would consider including qualified Americans of the Islamic faith in his Cabinet as advisers on national security matters, given his position that ‘jihadism’ is the principal foreign policy threat facing America today.

“He answered, ‘ ... based on the numbers of American Muslims (as a percentage) in our population, I cannot see that a Cabinet position would be justified. But of course, I would imagine that Muslims could serve at lower levels of my administration,’” Ijaz wrote.

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:48 PM
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1. Muslim voters in Michigan and Florida gave those states to Bush
Romney just cut his own throat.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:48 PM
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2. That is a dumb question, imo nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:55 PM
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10. Given that Romney says that the war on "Islamist terrorism" is the number 1 priority
I think that the question is highly relevant, actually.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:48 PM
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3. By his logic, I guess we cannot justify a Mormon being President.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:06 PM
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20. Yeah, but one could serve in a lower capacity, such as restroom attendant.
:rofl:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:10 PM
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23. And only in numbers that exactly match the percentage of Mormons in the U.S. population.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:24 PM
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28. So now you're just going to dismiss from employment all of
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:25 PM by Boojatta
the people who were hired based on recommendations from Larry Craig?

Those restroom attendant jobs are already filled. You should think of an occupation with more job vacancies.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:54 PM
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35. ....
:rofl:
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:49 PM
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4. so what?
Romney dodged a question. stop the presses.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:54 PM
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9. You're giving this Republican bigot a pass on this?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:58 PM
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12. a pass on what? a dumbass question that he dodged in a dumbass fashion?
the original question was asinine. the response was even more asinine. this is such a waste of time and outrage that it's just silly.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:00 PM
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14. I disagree on all counts.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:02 PM
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17. unless he hired a jihadist for the Cabinet...
it's a stupid question. that's like asking a candidate if they'd hire a Christian for the Cabinet to counter the KKK.


the whole thing is BS.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:05 PM
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19. That's because everybody knows that almost everyone appointed will be Christian.
There is a strong anti-Muslim attitude among Republicans, and it shows. That's why the questioner asked. And Romney failed badly. See the posts downthread. Making appointments based on religious affiliation is unconstitutional. It's alarming that Romney doesn't respect that.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:07 PM
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21. "Making appointments based on religious affiliation"
works both ways. It's just as unconstitutional to use religion as a preferential charateristic as it is to use it as a detrimental characteristic.

That said, i still maintain that the question was BS, and the dodgy answer was even more BS.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:10 PM
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22. Who said that it wasn't unconstitutional. That's exactly what we're saying.
We agree on one thing - Romney's answer was BS and I'm not going to give him a pass on it.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:49 PM
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5. So...Mitt's cabinet would be chosen based on a quota system?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:19 PM
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26. I thought Republicans were against quotas... especially Clarence Thomas
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:50 PM
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6. What a bigot
Trash like this doesn't deserve to be President.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:52 PM
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7. Hm. Does that mean that he'll base all his hiring decisions on percentage of population?
In that case, Romney must be planning to have a majority-female Cabinet, as females make up the majority of the U.S. population. He'll also need about 20% (that's one in five) of the Cabinet to be Latina/o, about 15% (that's about one in six) of the Cabinet to be African American. Romney's obviously planning to make at least one in ten appointments openly gay, right?
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:53 PM
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8. Using the Romney criteria, there would be no Mormons or Jews either. eom
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:55 PM
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11. What part of "no religious test" does Romney not understand? The correct answer to the question is
that religion will not be a determining factor for any appointee, cabinet level or otherwise.


United States Constitution Article VI, section 3

“ ...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. ”



One does not appoint members of a particular religion based on the percentages that they occur in the general population.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:59 PM
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13. Good point
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:01 PM
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15. This was a serious mistake on Romney's part. We need to keep hammering on it.
The response demonstrates how willing Romney is to use religion in the political sphere.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:02 PM
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16. Thank you
for returning us to what should be the main point here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:04 PM
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18. Bullseye
:nuke:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:45 PM
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31. Since when do Republickers read or abide by the US Constitution? n/t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:24 PM
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32. Good point, but reporters should at least raise the question. I know, silly me.
Most reporters have no idea what the Constitution says and they are more concerned about "Who's on first?" according to the latest polls.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:14 PM
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24. Silly Mittens!
Always fudging up!



I thought those pubs couldn't get anyone dumber than W. Color me wrong.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:18 PM
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25. So, Muslims are out but the guys with funny underwear who baptize the dead are in?
Yeah Mitt..... that makes a lot of sense. This from a guy who declared "jihad" on his own dog.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM
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30. Excellent point -- the victim of religious bigotry is -- get this -- a religious bigot himself.
You can't make this shit up.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:20 PM
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27. So, would he apportion his cabinet by population percentages?
If he won a close election, would nearly half of his cabinet be Democrats?

If he wouldn't appoint based on population percentages, why rule possible members out based on such percentages?

Why note the percentage of Muslims in the population at all?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 PM
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29. Wonder if Mitt knows that the number of Muslims in U.S. is approx. the same as the # of Mormons?
Yep, just for chuckles I looked it up. Number of Mormons in U.S. and number of Muslims in U.S. both equal about 5.5 million at least according to the article below on Mormons. Oy vey. Do you think any of the MSM will be clever enough to look that up and ask Mittens about it?

I guess this means there will be no Mormons in Mitt's cabinet.

http://www.allaboutmormons.com/number_of_mormons.php
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:26 PM
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33. And he's upset that people are unsure of him because he's a Mormon!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:27 PM
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34. KamaAina: Ken Doll not needed in White House
although, based on the proportion of vapid idiots in the country these days, it might be justified... :sarcasm:
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