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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:10 PM
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How Dare You!
That should be our permanent response to this pathetic, ridiculous, "you don't support the troops" talking point. I am getting so sick and tired of the same old rhetoric coming from the same old people. Bohner actually had the nerve today to claim that Murtha's bill to insure that the troops get proper equipment, training, and a year off between deployment, was hurting the troops. This lie they have been perpetuating for 4 years now has gone beyond absurd. Olbermann reported tonight that 10 billion dollars in Iraq war money is unaccounted for. This is in addition to the 12 Billion in Iraqi money that is missing. This 10 billion is in U.S. tax dollars. But, you go to war with the army you have not the army you want right? Reminds me of the line in Batman Begins where Morgan Freeman tells Christian Bale that "The government didn't think a soldiers life was worth a $100,000" when he was asked why the high tech body armor Batman uses was never put into production.
It was Republicans who cut Veterans benefits, cut combat pay, cut housing subsidies, and cut disabled Veterans benefits. It's Republicans who think that what lowers a soldiers moral is 70% of America wanting them to come home to their families. Hey freepers, want to know what lowers a soldiers moral? Hearing that "you go to war with the army you have not the army you want" lowers morale. Hearing that "Money trumps peace" lowers morale. Fighting next to a guy who is making 5 times as much money as you are lowers moral. Getting ready to get on a plane home and then being told you have just been re-deployed hurts moral. Not knowing who the enemy is lowers morale. Having most of the soldiers and commanders say "more troops won't help" and then sending them anyway, hurts morale. Not having proper armor hurts morale, especially when 10 Billion dollars is missing. Listening to Virgina Congressman Virgle Goode claim today on the floor that if we pull out of Iraq we will have a green flag with a sickle and star flying over the White House and our money will say In Mohammad We Trust on it is probably not good for morale. Basically what Goode said was our military is so bad and our country so weak that if we pull out of Iraq our military won't be able to defend us from the terrorists and that we will become an Islamic nation. All I can say to that asshole is HOW DARE YOU! Say it folks, and keep saying it. They may have no shame but that doesn't mean we should ignore their shameful behavior. HOW DARE YOU!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:16 PM
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1. How Dare they, Indeed!!!! K & R'd!! Woot!
Fantastic!!! Great job!! :headbang:



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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 03:39 PM
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34. allow me to kick this....let's really support our troops
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:51 PM
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35. Simply FANTASTIC!!!
How dare they, INDEED!!!

That's a REALLY good statement to throw back in their faces when they have the gall to question OUR patriotism for wanting to support the troops FOR REAL (by making sure they're not sent to war on the cheap, AND by making sure they're not sent to war on a LIE).
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:18 PM
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2. Excellent!
:applause:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:18 PM
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3. Dim Son cut VA benefits the very day we invaded Iraq.
How dare he?

:nuke:
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:41 PM
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33. He's the Decider
and he decided that Paris Hilton needed a tax cut more than veterans need health care. See, if the rich have more in tax cuts they have more to contribute to corrupt immoral Republicans.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:19 PM
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4. Nicely said
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:19 PM
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5. K&R&H! Well put!
Exactly what I have wanted to say for so long!

HOW DARE YOU! How dare you claim that I am not as good an American than you are, just because I think that the war is wrong! How dare you laugh at the victims of Katrina! How dare you blithely say there's no problems in this country, when so many people are unable to get by and corporate fascists make millions per year! How dare you condone obvious racism and bigotry!

How dare you act to destroy this country, and try to blame me for it!

HOW DARE YOU!
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:19 PM
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6. Right on!!

I think even a lot of the wingnuts are getting tired of that too. You can only spew that bullshit for so long and even the idiots figure out that is what it is.. bullshit.

And good points about what the republic party is doing to our troops!

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:32 PM
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7. They DARE because they are SUPERIOR to us.
They see us as chattel to be force fed enough propaganda and lies that we will sacrifice our children and treasury to SERVICE THEM.


.....just my opinion.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:34 PM
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8. They are in for a rude awakening then aren't they...hmmmf.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:52 PM
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9. That's what I was screaming at my TV tonight!
How DARE you f*ckers accuse the Dems of "not supporting the troops"! They've done NOTHING to protect our military and perpetually gave Little Lord Pissypants a BLANK CHECK with NO OVERSIGHT! They've destroyed our military. Soldiers are being sent to Iraq lacking in the sufficient training they need. They don't have body armour. Their humvees barely run. It's sickening. How dare these rat bastards accuse us of ANYTHING!

HOW DARE YOU?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:57 PM
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10. Take a look at this...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/16/terror/main24...

This guy is a HUGE Repub donor. Wonder how the troops feel about this?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:23 PM
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14. Unbelievable, from the article:
CBS News has confirmed that Alishtari is a donor to the Republican Party, as he claims on his curriculum vitae. Alishtari gave $15,500 to the National Republican Campaign Committee between 2002 and 2004, according to Federal Election Commission records. That amount includes $13,000 in 2003, a year when he claims to have been named NRCC New York State Businessman of the Year.

Alishtari also claims to be a lifetime member of the National Republican Senate Committee's Inner Circle, which the NRCC describes as "an impressive cross-section of American society community leaders, business executives, entrepreneurs, retirees, and sports and entertainment celebrities all of whom hold a deep interest in our nation's prosperity and security.

Not only was this guy a donor, but a member of the "inner circle". Gee I wonder what Fox News would be saying if this guy had been a Dem...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:04 PM
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11. That's the tude I've
had for 6 years.."how fucking dare you?"

OT, but New York and the Northeast finally got slammed like Denver did those weeks ago. I don't have any cool pics like you took but trust me..life was at a standstill on Valentine's Day!~
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:17 PM
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13. Yeah I been seeing stuff on the news, worse than we had
we've only had one weekend without snow in the last 8 weeks but it's been mostly small stuff. I've been seeing reports of 12 feet in upstate NY with more coming. That's nuts. This is easily the worst winter we've had in 15 years. But don't worry, there's no problems with the climate :eyes:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:51 PM
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15. Oswego, Mexico, NY Snow Pics - Dial-Up Warning!
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 10:53 PM by Breeze54
For your viewing pleasure! ;)
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8...

Oswego (They got over 12 feet of snow! Holy shit!)
Photos by Jennifer Sutherland













------------------------------

A sloppy winter storm dumped a heavy mix of snow and sleet on Boston,
slowing the Valentine's Day morning commute.

At left, a Fung Wah bus carrying 35 passengers crashed into a guardrail at the
Allston-Brighton tolls on the westbound Massachusetts Turnpike this morning.
Though the bus had to be towed from the scene, no one was injured.
(Globe Staff Photo / Essdras M. Suarez


Commuters braved stinging sleet and the occasional snow flurry outside South Station in Boston today.
(Globe Staff Photo / George Rizer)

We didn't get a ton of snow south of Boston but we did get a whole lot of ice!
Lots of car accidents and freezing rain but it could've been a lot worse!
My car has been frozen in ice for three days! And my heater switch is broken or frozen. Argh!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 01:50 PM
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23. You're too kind Breeze, thanks!
I remember seeing about "Mexico" getting the most at one point. Cracks me up the names of some of the towns around upstate New Yawk.

And I'm so happy about your son getting home from Iraq. WOW!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:16 PM
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12. k&r
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:08 PM
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16. Rec'd - Now THAT was a message!
A message that I want to send out to my mail list! May I?

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:39 PM
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18. Be my guest...
:toast: Always nice to have what you write actually get read.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:17 PM
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17. I applaud you, walldude!
These are my thoughts exactly. Listening to these Repukes blather on like this on the House floor, and in sound bites, outrages me! HOW DARE THEY???? So many of them have completely twisted the language of the resolution, it's like falling through the rabbit hole listening to them. They are fucking LIARS!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:49 AM
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19. That is a most excellent rant.
Edit the first paragraph by removing the Batman reference, fix your spelling (moral = morale). Send this letter to the New York Times and every major paper in the country, to Speaker Pelosi and your congress critters.

Oh. Remove the profanity. :)

:patriot:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 03:24 AM
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20. This is just plain ...
... RANT-O-RIFIC!!!!

Well said on EVERY count!

:kick: & HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:01 AM
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21. How Dare You
Allow the president to be selected by the Supreme Court and then allow the country to be attacked on 9/11 without a full investigation and killing the financiers of that operation and then allowing our votes to be put in a black box so that no one can tell how the votes were counted or who really won and then make up an imaginary threat and invade a country under the banner of advancing democracy while destroying everything good in that country, all while continuing to make unproven and false accusations against the last elected president?

How Dare You use my country for your own nefarious ends? You are my enemy. And I will fight you until you are no more.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:44 AM
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22. Fantastic rant
You said what so many of us are feeling perfectly. I think the mute button is getting worn out on my remote. I get so angry when the republicrites are whining I must them after yelling and calling then a few choice names.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 02:04 PM
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24. K & R for this rant! Woot!
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 02:13 PM
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25. KO, is that you?
;) Excellent post, walldude...you said what so many of us have been thinking for a long, long while. :applause: Right on! K&R.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:35 PM
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26. Great Rant - Recommended n/t
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 04:39 PM
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27. Amen!
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 05:04 PM
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28. Remember the ole GI Joe talking doll..well, that's who these
people are modeled after...GI Joe, bless his plastic innards, had "10" sayings and then repeated himself..ad nauseam...well, guess what ..we have real life elected versions...who knew.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 05:48 PM
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29. Quit using the troops personally
We've got to do it, too. We've let the right wingers frame that.

The troops are extensions of us. They are doing our national bidding. We have to take responsiblity for what they do, not lean on them as victims.

Both sides are equally guilty. It is just an attempt to move what we cannot intellectually handle to a personal level. Like saying, "gee, bow'd you feel if some guy raped your daughter?" Well, gee, I wouldn't be very objective, and I'd want to kill him. That's why we have a justice system. So I and my emotions taking over, overwhelming my reason, doesn't lead to the mistaken death or whoever I feel might be guilty who isn't.

Same thing here. The troops are killing people over there, not just "in harm's way." To others, they are the harm. And they are killing those people on our behalf. Because we claim to be in danger.

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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:17 PM
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30. HOW DARE YOU...
Infer that troop support is similar to administration policy in that they are both worthy of the same guilt.

How dare you mangle the opening post instead of addressing it.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:41 PM
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32. Uh.. back slowly away from the sharp objects...
This is the most bizarre response I've ever had to a post. Let me explain a few things to you. "I" haven't let the right wingers frame anything. The troops are not an extension of "me". They are not doing "my" national bidding. I don't see them as victims of a war I see them as victims of a corrupt government. They are under orders, to not follow orders means jail or death. You act as if they have some kind of choice in the matter. No one anywhere is killing anyone on my behalf. I am not at war. Just because my ass happens to be in America does not mean whatever the government does is on my behalf. Let me just say, that you should not presume to make demands upon me, and don't presume that I am not equipped to "intellectually handle" this issue.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:32 PM
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31. Yes indeed it is time we learned this lesson that the pukes have been using
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 07:34 PM by ooglymoogly
since Ronald Raygun. Just look how successful the pukes were being totally incensed about a blow job in the oval office blowing nothing into something. We need to learn to fight fire with fire not forgetting the corporate press belongs to the GOP.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:53 PM
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36. It is a ludicrous twit phrase. Laughable really. They crack me up.
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