Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rape charges filed against two 8 yr olds and a 9 yr old...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:11 PM
Original message
Rape charges filed against two 8 yr olds and a 9 yr old...
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:14 PM by SoCalDem
the girl was 11.. CNN reported a while ago that they may charge the boys as adults...

I do NOT condone the behavior, but :wtf: is wrong with

a) kids
b) parents
c) justice system
d) all of the above


http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4741a9e08737b517&ei=HOBBR9K2MonK-gHI08iJCw&url=http%3A//ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gv7OiTwO23-4YemHHQnw28pV7YJwD8T0SUPG0&cid=1123824935&sig2=Tf0TWSeYk8BSkdMrP79z6g


Ga. Boys Ages 8 and 9 Charged With Rape

By SHANNON McCAFFREY – 1 hour ago

ACWORTH, Ga. (AP) — Three boys, ages 8 and 9, were being held Monday in a detention center on charges of kidnapping and raping an 11-year-old girl near a suburban apartment complex, officials said.

The alleged attack happened Thursday and the girl's mother reported it to authorities Sunday, Acworth police Capt. Wayne Dennard said. "The victim said they were playing outdoors and the girl was forced into a wooded area where she was sexually assaulted, where one of the boys raped her," Dennard told The Associated Press.

The three boys — an 8-year-old and two 9-year-olds — were charged with rape, kidnapping, false imprisonment and sexual assault, Dennard said. They were due in juvenile court Monday afternoon. Their names were being withheld because of their age.

snip

Acworth Police Chief Mike Wilkie said said one of the boys was accused of threatening to hit the girl with a rock before the alleged assault. Wilkie also said the investigation is "far from over," and investigators are looking into claims that after the alleged attack, the girl talked about it with her friends at a slumber party. The father of the 8-year-old boy said his son had been falsely accused and had not had sex with the girl.

The sexual activity was consensual, and the girl accused her playmates only after her parents had learned she had sex, said the father, Brandon LeBlanc. "There was no violence involved," LeBlanc said. "This is a clear case of a girl who didn't want to get in trouble with her parents." He added, "In order to save her hide, she tried to blame it on rape."

snip...


Prosecutors had not received the case report from police on Monday, nor had they decided whether to try the suspects as adults. "That decision hasn't been made," said Kathy Watkins, a spokeswoman for the Cobb County District Attorney's office. She had no further comment.

snip
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. It would be interesting to know the details
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. sorry.. i forgot the link.. it's there nowe
:P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lonebear Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
25. Maybe the facts
I live in the area and a niece live very near the complex. I would not swear by this but the talk in the neighborhood is that none of these kids are bad. The boys are pretty much your normal kids. The girl was not a slut but she was curious. It was probably a case of her going in the woods with some younger boys that she did not feel threatened by, to experiment a little. It might have gone a little farther than she planned or not. It happened on Thursday, she even told a friend or two and she went till Sunday when somehow her parents found out. To get out of trouble she cried Rape, never thinking that it would cause such a stir.

Double standard wise, consider if the 11 year old had been a boy and the 8 and 9 year olds had been girls. Then it would be the older one accused.

I hate to tell you but look at the media. Slick Willy making it necessary to tell our 8 year olds what oral sex was didn’t help. None of our kids, boys or girls, are innocent. I was at home with a friend in another, richer part of Atlanta. His 2nd grade son came home crying. Two fourth grade girls had taken him in the girls room after school and tried to perform oral sex on him. The school administration would not believe it or do anything. That’s what our society has done to our once innocent kids.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. Oh brother -- the Slick Willy add was a nice touch
God, I hate it when Liberty University is on break...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
3. A significant portion of young children play "doctor"
i.e. explore sexuality with each other, and so on.

A small percentage of those actually leads to intercourse, according to the Kinsey studies of some fifty years ago.

A significant portion of children bully each other.

So it seems common sense would dictate that in exceptionally rare cases you'd have incidents where the bullying and "playing doctor" would coincide, and you'd end up with a case of rape on your hands.

So as unfortunate as this is, what disturbs me is the idea that anybody would want to charge 8 and 9 year old kids as adults.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Me too..
an 11 year old girl is USUALLY far more mature than a couple of 8 yr olds and a 9 yr old boy.. but they are all peers and sex play is normal for kids that age,.no matter how distressing it is for parents to think about..

It would seem to me that psychologists would be the way to go instead of courts & jails
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. It really doesn't make any sense.
An eleven year old is not of sound mind to give consent to sex, how can an eight year old be considered of sound mind to be held responsible for rape?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. How is it even possible for kids that young to commit sex crimes?
And if they are going to be accused of an adult crime and charged as such, then they had best be able to vote, drive, drink, and buy a house.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. or have their permanent teeth..n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
9. Anyone who is now even discussing ...
... charging these kids as adults should be fired immediately.

If you can't tell the difference between an 8- or 9-year-old and an adult, you obviously lack the intelligence and maturity for any job beyond mopping floors or picking up litter.

Jesus wept.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:31 PM
Response to Original message
10. Who knows what the hell happened.
But this is a serious charge that needs to be followed through. If it is rape, look to the parents, there is probably some stuff going down, and that may be why the father is trying to brush it off. Just the amateur detective in me, I guess.

But charging an 8 year old as an adult? It sort of makes the juvenile category irrelevant, doesn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. i gotta wonder who the adults are in cases like this!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
13. I have a 10 year old boy and this is beyond my understanding.
Aside from the fact that he has no clue what sex is or how to do it, I don't think he's physically capable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Better have a talk with him ..TONIGHT..
We were never "graphic" at that age, but we told our boys that ANY part of the body that would be covered by underwear or a bathing suit was OFF LIMITS to anyone but THAT person and their doctor..NO EXCEPTIONS.. no one touches THEM there and they don't touch anyone else there..

Even little kids can understand that..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. I have had that talk with him since he was 4 and this he understands.
He's completely clueless in certain ways I won't go into though, and that's what makes it hard to understand the op.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
14. Kids play doctor all the time.
Just yesterday I almost caught my 5 year old niece and 4 year old nephew doing something. I didn't see anything but they were both in the bathroom doing mischief and when I knocked on the door, I heard little footsteps (my nephew) run to the other room (bathroom has two entrances). My niece was pretending she was using the bathroom. The rest of us was in the family room and we all thought they were in the back playing with toys.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. When my younger sisters were about 8 years old,
The wanted to play doctor. We caught them right before they started operating on the cat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Was the cat's name "Lucky"?
should'a been :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:40 PM
Response to Original message
15. I have an 8 year old boy and he's more interested in sports than sex.
In fact, he's not interested in sex at all. He still thinks girls have cooties and kissing is yucky.

Isn't that how little boys are SUPPOSED to act at 8 years old?

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Yes.
Rape is usually more an act of aggression than a sexual act, though.
I wonder if the boys had gotten the idea after they had seen some violent movies, or maybe some bad role models at home...?

Definitely not normal behavior at all! Scary.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:10 PM
Response to Original message
20. As a parent of an 8 yo and 9 yo (both boys)
I am stunned. I guess my kids are just really immature or something. :shrug: They would never conceive of such an act of violence against a girl.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
21. Somehow, I think this case is going to get uglier than it is.


I'm waiting for more information before I start judging.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
22. Trial as adult for kids that young is inappropriate.
As for the rest. WTF!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC