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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:50 PM
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I Love a Boy Named Jesse (but Jesse Doesn't Love Me Back)
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 07:54 PM by CorpGovActivist
My partner and I are coming up on 14 years together. We've laughed about how certain songs/songwriters seemed to have coded lyrics/videos back when - to date us - MTV/VH1 first emerged on the scene.

I used to change lyrics of songs I liked, privately, to "correct" the pronouns and other words to reflect my own true feelings.

Out and proud, Israeli singer/songwriter Ivri Lider has an unambiguous video and song out called, "Jesse," showing the angst of liking someone, but with that very realistic twist.

Little triumphs like this really do make a difference in the teenage suicide rate.

Please enjoy this interview with Mr. Lider (with music video embedded part way down the page), and encourage your school system to allow songs like this to be played at school dances.

I grew up changing the lyrics to "Jesse's Girl" and singing them under my breath - how nice to see today's kids able to sing along to a hit that doesn't have them hiding.

: )

- Dave

P.S. I still sing Jesse's Girl my way.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:01 PM
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1. I enjoyed reading your post and checking out Ivri Lider's music. Thanks.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:11 PM
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2. I like your post but I doubt the song will be popular in the homophobic US
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:13 PM
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3. I Wonder How Many Right-Wing Parents...
... have no idea that they have a kid who:

1. Watches LOGO's countdown on cable in their room; and/or

2. Watches them online.

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:13 PM
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4. Well, I sent it to some friends who will do what they can to give him a boost!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:20 PM
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8. Cool! I Hope It Gets Airplay on MTV, Etc.
I'm not holding my breath, but the beauty of living now is that it can go viral without the traditional distribution channels.

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:37 PM
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12. I think it's great that you're doing that, and I loved your remark about how it's possible
that one small thing, one bit of understanding, could possibly help some kid who's having
a hard time. It's really true.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:51 PM
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15. I Remember Lying Awake...
... praying that it would "go away," when I was a teen.

Thankfully, it was strongly stressed in our household that our parents' love was unconditional, and that "NO MATTER WHAT we will always love you and support you."

Even once I'd accepted it for myself, it was less a question of being rejected by them and more a question of disappointing them. For many kids, that is an unimaginable amount of breathing room, unfortunately.

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:22 PM
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17. i think it's wonderful that your parents imparted that kind of unconditional love to you,
but I don't understand the last sentence of your post. What do you mean by an
'unimaginable amount of breathing room'?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:30 PM
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18. A Lot of Kids Are Operating ...
... in a verbal jail of sorts: explicit homophobic statements and outright hatred spewed by their parents toward gays and lesbians mean that these kids know that the consequences of coming out could be much, much more serious than causing transitory disappointment.

As I struggled with it, I at least had the "breathing room" provided by knowing that the worst that would happen would be causing said disappointment, if even that.

Lots of kids are not only struggling with the possible societal perceptions and reactions, but the very real prospect of being verbally and/or physically abused by their own families, kicked out, or worse.

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:07 AM
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20. Dave -you'd make a great counselor for kids. Compassionate and informed.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:10 AM
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21. My Sister and Brother...
... are both doing that.

My sister is a social worker who helps distressed families.

My brother works as a live-in counselor at a troubled teen home, while also going to college full-time.

Go figure.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:14 PM
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5. Thanks! Glad You Enjoyed It...
... and hope you have a chance to pass it along to others who may find it of interest.

: )

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:15 PM
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6. Already did! n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:17 PM
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7. Hi Dave! Congratulations to you
and your partner on your 14th anniversary! :bounce:

"...certain songs/songwriters seemed to have coded lyrics/videos back when - to date us - MTV/VH1 first emerged on the scene."

You are indeed dating yourself on that one! :D

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:24 PM
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10. In My Defense...
... I *was* in grade school when video killed the radio star.

Thanks for the well wishes, too: 14 years of putting up with my singing means he's a dang good guy (or needs a Miracle Ear, I'm not sure which).

- Dave
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:38 PM
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13. "Dang"? Really?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:46 PM
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14. *Shrug* Deep Programming ...
... when you have it drilled into you that curse words are:

1. The province of those who cannot express themselves more intelligently;

2. More effective the more sparingly they're used ...

it tends to stick.

Nuns have nothing on rural WV teachers.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:08 PM
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16. To Wit...
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:20 PM
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9. I love a boy named Jesse too.
He's my son. :-)

I remember the song Jesse's Girl, we used to sing it when my kids were little.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:25 PM
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11. It's One of My Favorite Names...
... because I loved that song.

I bet back then, you were "Jesse's Girl," huh?

: )

- Dave
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:27 AM
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19. Yep.
I sure was. :D
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:08 PM
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22. How Old Now?
Do you think your local school system would allow this song to be played at a prom, etc.?

- Dave
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:18 PM
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23. I wonder if mine would
It won't come up simply as a matter of taste. The teens at my school are way more into louder, R and B type music than this.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:21 PM
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24. What Do They Slow Dance To? n/t
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:41 PM
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25. they don't
or if they do they slow dance to an R and B type song. Mostly it is group dancing. Very different from when I was in school.
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