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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:54 PM
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I am now officially a capitalist pig!
Next I'll be exploiting labor and climb into the ruling class.

After months of searching, and a week of negotiating, my partner and I are now the owners of a carryout and delivery pizzaria and Italian restaurant. Settled the deal this morning.

We're gonna pump out the best cheap food in the Tampa Bay area.

Now, I gotta learn how to cook Italian food.

:toast: :bounce: :toast: :party: :toast:

Now I've got to tell Dennis Kucinich to bring Elizabeth by for a veggie pizza next time they're in town!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:55 PM
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1. Good for you.
:hi:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:59 PM
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3. You and the hubby gotta swing by.
It's on W. Waters near Sheldon (Citrus Park area). We take over on Dec. 3rd.

:hi:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:57 PM
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2. You capitalist traitor!
Don't incorporate as you will then be accused of being a corporatist here.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:00 PM
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6. Oh shit! We already did.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:15 PM
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24. So you're not only a capitalist, you're a corporatist waiting to
exploit the masses to increase shareholder value! You'll probably support Hillary and the DLC next! I would strongly advise an asbestos suit for here!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:59 PM
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4. You nail a vegan pizza, and I'll see to it that every
vegetarian/vegan in Tampa Bay knows all about your place.

Seriously, if you want, PM me your place. I can at least tell all my Dem/lib friends about it.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:00 PM
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7. Yeah. Like you have friends...
:D
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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16. Why, you little...!!!!1! *shakes fist*
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:01 PM
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10. I'll do that.
And I'll have to read up on vegan cooking.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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13. I'll be happy to help with the basics.
I have teh vegan smartz.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:59 PM
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5. Nice going!
Best of luck in your new venture!

:toast:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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11. Thanks.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:01 PM
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8. There are so many places like that in my new neighborhood in Boston I don't know how they all
stay in business. People must eat a lot of pizza here. Then again, it is a student neighborhood so maybe that explains it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:08 PM
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20. Ya live in the North End?
You're right about the student population--there's a college/university in every square mile of the city, on average. More than just one, actually. Look at Wheelock/Simmons/Emmanuel/BU/ for starters, Northeastern/Emerson/MCP/MCA...and how close they are to each other.

And then, there's all those hospitals, with workers who want pizza at ten at night. Children's Hospital, Beth Israel, Leahy Clinic...
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:19 PM
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27. Yeah
It's pretty ridiculous about the pizza spots though. Like every day some or another of them is cramming a take-out menu into my mailbox. Add together the Chinese restaurant take-out menus, I'm surprised there's any forest left anywhere.

But at least I recycle them :)
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:01 PM
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9. Congrats. That is a tough business to make work. Good luck.
BTW, I have been called a "landowner" for having a 2 unit rental property. My comeback was "shouldn't you add M'lord when you address me?".
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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12. There is NOTHING wrong with being a business owner or entrepreneurship.
That is your choice. Just as workers also should have a choice to form an association to establish a worker co-op enterprise where the profits of the enterprise are shared. There is nothing saying that private enterprise can't exist next to collective enterprise in the free market.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:06 PM
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18. I bet th OP would like for the workers to share the risk he has right now.
How about waiting for him to break even before you start deciding how his profits should be dispersed.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:07 PM
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19. Who said anything about me deciding how he distributes profits? n/t
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:10 PM
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We have 2 experienced cooks.
And, we are giving them a piece of the business, and profits, so they have a vested interest in it.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:22 PM
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30. Yes, I wasn't questioning what you were doing with your firm but commenting on the bigger picture...
using your example as a sort of jump-off point. Have you read the book by Schweickart titled "Economic Democracy: A Worthy Socialism That Would Really Work"?

In it, he states that entrepreneurs such as yourself are important to this new model of economy, much as it is the same in the current economy. He states that as an entrepreneur, you take the lead in assuming the risks of starting an enterprise and that as a reward, you should be entitled to the profits your project generates with the discretion to do with it what you will within the bounds of the law.

The only twist comes when you can also decide to sell your firm to a public bank. The public bank exists to train and educate workers on what worker co-ops are. It provides capital funds and financial assistance and education to workers who may wish to associate together to establish a new firm that's cooperatively owned. The bank also exists to buy out failed firms or other pre-existing firms that wish to sell-out to the bank to reorganize those firms into worker co-ops as well.

In such a hypothetical economy, you are free to decide to keep your firm for as long as you wish or sell it off to the public bank for a profit, such as when you grow tired of running the firm or wish to retire.

I'm not meaning to point any accusatory finger at you that you're a miserly employer or anything like that. I KNOW how difficult it is to run a small business. The best of luck to you! May you enjoy as many hot pizzas as the future may hold!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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14. Congratulations!
Best of luck!

:toast: :beer:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:03 PM
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15. Congratulations!!! How big is your business? Put a nice caprese on the menu!
Many employees? Any sit down area, or is it all take away or 'delivery?'

Do you do "subs?" Aka Grinders/hoagies? Do you do pasta dishes as well?

Italian food is easy. I lived in Italy for the best part of a decade. The things you have to remember is don't overcook shit, particularly the pasta, keep it simple, use the best/freshest ingredients, and don't be afraid of salt--don't OVERDO, but don't underdo either.

As they say in Bella Italia, AUGURI!!!!!!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:14 PM
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23. It has a small sit down area.
We're going to see if the landlord will let us put some tables outside in the common area (it's at one end of a small strip mall).

We have a full hot and cold sub menu, salads, wings, and about a dozen pasta dishes.

The current owner grows a lot of his herbs, on site in season, and we'll do the same thing. We don't want to lose the existing clientle.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:25 PM
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33. Yes, put tables outside as permitted. Good weather can be used to your advantage.
Conversely, make sure there are enough seats inside as well in case of rainy days.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:21 PM
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47. You'll do fine! You can't go wrong with your own herbs!
If you don't have a lemon pasta, drum one up--that's a winner in the summertime especially!

Best success to you!

(You can tell I'm a fan of Italian food, eh?)
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Rabo Karabekian Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:06 PM
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17. No You're Petitbourgeosie, Read Marx n/t
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:10 PM
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21. I'm in Tampa occasionally
I will commit to stopping at your place on every visit, dinner for 3, but you have to tell us the name of the place first. Where in Tampa are you?

And congrats mate. I'm jealous.

:toast:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:17 PM
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26. Pizza Italia. It's on W. Waters east of Sheldon.
A little northwest of the airport in the Citrus Park area.

Be glad to see you!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:23 PM
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31. You're kidding.
I'm very friendly with a bunch of folks working in a building at the corner of Waters and Anderson. My gym is also on Waters. I'll let them all know you're there!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:30 PM
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35. Thanks.
And also, my partner is a REAL rocket scientist. If we ever have to make a delivery to the moon or the space station, he'll know how to do it!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:34 PM
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38. Are you going to do delivery?
I'd be happy to distribute some menus/flyers to my/my friends' haunts in the area.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:37 PM
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39. It's a lot of delivery and carry out.
We appreciate it.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:42 PM
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41. Excellent.
When you guys take over and are up and running, please drop me a PM. I'd like to help however I can.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:13 PM
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22. Congrats to you both!
You gonna concoct a "progressive pizza"?!

All the best and good luck.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:19 PM
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28. We should get a lot of progressive politicians in there.
We've managed enough of their campaigns for them.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:16 PM
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25. You don't climb into the ruling class. You are invited or you aren't.
It ain't just about the dough. :evilgrin:

Congratulations and much luck on your new venture.

How to cook Italian food - start with garlic and onion - all the rest is negotiable. :D

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:22 PM
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29. Woo Hoo
Congrats
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:24 PM
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32. :woohoo:
:woohoo:

Congratulations Dr.Phool!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:27 PM
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34. Congrats....hope you have wood burning brick ovens.....?!
That's the secret to the best pizza in the WORLD !

:toast: back atcha, hope you posted this in the Florida forum :hi:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:31 PM
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36. I'll post in the Florida Forum after we take over on Dec. 3rd.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:33 PM
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37. You're feeding people
an acceptable capitalist pig in my book. best of luck in your endeavors.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:40 PM
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40. Congratulations!
Takes a lot of courage to take a step like that. Way to go!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:54 PM
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42. Congratulations! Best of luck! n/t
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:13 PM
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43. Congrats!
What fun & the very best to you!

Stop on by the veggie forum for ideas for vegan pizza & entrees, if you'd like. We love discussing food & have some great cooks!
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MANative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:33 PM
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44. Congratulations and best of luck to you in your new
business!! My business partner lives in the Tampa area, and is another unabashed liberal. I'll tell him to visit next time he's needing a great pizza. :)

:toast:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:29 PM
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45. Congratulations. Now you're in the most taxed bracket.
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 08:30 PM by Mika
Small business. Double taxed. Pay for the health care for your employees, and vacations, and sick days, holidays, not to mention bonuses for the help (December is a bad month for the owners of small businesses. First in, last to leave.

Good luck :toast:




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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:34 PM
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46. congratulations....service with a smile....
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:24 PM
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48. OOOOOO veggie pizza!
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:25 PM by Tyler Durden
Make sure you offer Yellow Banana Peppers! If you never tasted them on a pizza before, trust me, they're the nuts! Try Yellows, Pineapple, Greens, RED onions, Shrooms, and tomato SLICES. Absolutely KILLER!

Congrats.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:25 PM
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49. i guess i'll have to drop by sometime.
i'm into slices. :hi:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:30 PM
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50. HUGH CONGRATS!!!
Can I borrow a couple bucks?

:rofl:

:toast:
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:20 PM
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51. Wonderful!
Much success in the realization of your dream. And if we're ever down that way, you can pump some into us, too.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:37 PM
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52. Congrats. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:39 PM
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53. Have a great time and don't forget the chipotles!
:toast:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:43 PM
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54. I've heard that D----o's Pizza has no real ingredients in it --- ??? Good luck!!!
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