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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:06 AM
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Jim Hightower: Bush-Cheney Really Are Planning to Attack Iran!
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 07:07 AM by marmar
from the Hightower Lowdown, via AlterNet:



Bush-Cheney Really Are Planning to Attack Iran!

By Jim Hightower, Hightower Lowdown. Posted November 17, 2007.

Bush & Buckshot are riding their little stick horses, demonizing another Muslim nation -- and the Dems are supporting it. We've got to shut them down.




Look out -- here they come again! Bush & Buckshot are riding their little stick horses, waving the bloody flag of 9/11, demonizing another Muslim nation, shouting warnings about weapons of mass destruction, bellowing for regime change, and generally trying to whoop up a new war. Having done so well in Iraq, George W and Cheney are pushing feverishly to hype up a national-security threat and commit our nation, our bedraggled military, our depleted treasury, and our country's already-tarnished name to another of their fantasyland, neocon, preemptive invasions of a sovereign people who are doing no harm to us. Their target this time: Iran.

You might be thinking, oh, come on, Hightower, surely not. You're paranoid -- even the Bushites aren't that crazy. I wish.

The drums of war

For such leading neocon zealots as Norman Podhoretz, bombing and even invading Iran are about protecting "our" Mideastern oil, strengthening Israel's regional power, and continuing Western control of the restive Muslim majority in the Middle East. Podhoretz and other true believers assert that there's an urgent need for Israel and the West to crush Iran's Muslim government now, frantically wailing that it intends to destroy America and control the world. Even though Iran has made no threats to the U.S., the neocons see regime change there as the key to winning "World War IV" (they insist that the Cold War was World War III) against what they have dubbed "Islamofacism."

How nutty are they? Podhoretz concedes that by attacking such an influential Islamic nation, Bush would "unleash a wave of anti-Americanism all over the world that will make the anti-Americanism we've experienced so far look like a lovefest." Yet this Dr. Strangelove maniacally declares, "I pray with all my heart that he will." Now there's a prayer to a truly fiendish god!

George W, who is so besotted by Podhoretz that he has bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom on him, has bought into this guy's insanity. Adopting Podhoretz's inflamed doomsday stance, Bush recently accused Iran of preparing for global war (though W only ranks it as WW III), and Bush's bombastic sidekick, Cheney, has now threatened that Tehran will suffer "serious consequences" if it doesn't do what Washington wants. Just as they did in the run-up to their 2003 Iraq attack, the Bushites are now pounding out a drumbeat of propaganda to soften up the public, enlist the compliant media, and cow soft-spined Democratic leaders. You'll recognize some familiar themes (a.k.a. lies) in BushCheney's rationale for a "preventive" war of aggression against Iran:

Claim: Iran is in cahoots with al Qaeda, the demons who crashbombed America on 9/11. Actually, no. Iran is a Shiite nation that has long been in opposition to the Sunni-exclusive Islam preached by al Qaeda. Indeed, even before al Qaeda's attacks on America, Iran's leaders vehemently opposed the terrorist group's presence in neighboring Afghanistan, and Iran was one of the first Muslim countries to condemn the 9/11 assault. Iran also has willingly turned over al Qaeda suspects to the U.S. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/68064 /




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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:14 AM
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1. Jim, some of us are working hard to stop them, but we have others--
even on these boards--who will ride the hobbyhorses of war right along with them. Frustrating as hell, especially when one of those horses is one named Hillary.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:58 AM
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4. Very frustrating....
Even DU isn't completely Koolaid-proof
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:10 AM
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7. Do you EVER give your Hillary Hatred a rest?
:hurts:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:42 AM
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9. is the term "hillary hatred" EVER given rest?
why do you people insist on disagreement with her policies on the war as "hatred". Its a form of ritual shaming and marginalization of a point of view out of proportion to it context.

why not just deal honestly with the person and say "why do you think HRC is pro-war in Iraq"?

you don't, because then you'd have to debate the issue like an adult, and bring in evidence that she is NOT supporting the Iraq war and furthering aggression into Iran. You don't want to do that, because you'd lose.
Instead, it becomes this childish "you're a HILLARY HATER!" and attempts to deflect valid criticism of HRC by shaming the critic rather than debating the issue.

so, the question is, are you EVER going to stop the ritual shaming and actually start debating?

Can you defend, in argument, HRC's stand re: Iraq and IRan?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:33 AM
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13. Well said, Lerkfish...
I don't understand why disagreement with Hillary's policies on the war(s) is framed, in some huge leap of logic, as "hatred" of her.

Well, I do understand. As you said, it's a form of ritual shaming.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:38 AM
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14. deal honestly?
you must be joking. Then all of the bots would have to admit she is another neocon/corporate/fascist for eternal wars. A lot like her buddy Joementum.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:31 PM
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21. I posted OP for Hillary Backers to give us in positive terms HRC's votes & positions on Iraq/Iran..
Guess How Many Showed Up And Addressed the OP Topic? NONE.

Some showed up and complained the OP was promoting Hillary hating.

Such is the state of political discourse and debate when it comes to discussing Hillary and her votes and positions.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:00 PM
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22. I completely agree
I find that the 'Defend Hillary' crowd is occasionally irrational when the issues come up. They are rather comfortable cheerleading, or making absurd statements about "supporting the Democratic candidate" in the middle of a debate, or wheeling out the 'stop hating Hillary' nonsense.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:54 AM
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17. Toots, "hatred" is a tad hyperbolic for a disagreement on political issues.
I disagree with Hillary's take on a number of things, and I believe that the Democratic party is being waltzed down a primrose path by the neoliberal wing of the party into maintaining the * wars under the guise of national security. I also believe that this wing of the party is completely comfortable in compromising the welfare of ordinary people to secure corporate dollars for their campaign warchests. I also think it is time for new faces and new ideas beyond those offered by the Clintons and the Bushes in this nation. I want to see the nation live forward and do not want to enter the Clinton Years: Part Deux. I'll not apologize for my opinions on Hillary and I do not intend to caucus for her nor can I be swayed at this point. I will work to make certain that she is not the candidate to represent the party ostensibly lays claim to representing working people in this nation.

Peace.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:02 AM
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29. Yea, verily.
:thumbsup:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:15 AM
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2. he is right
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 07:15 AM by leftchick
and it is scary...

<snip>

But the Democrats' congressional leadership is already waffling, and some of their presidential candidates are joining Bush in rattling our sabers at Iran, hoping to appear commander-in-chiefish. Astonishingly, the Senate passed a resolution on September 26 by a 76-22 vote that endorses Bush's confrontation with Tehran! The Kyl-Lieberman amendment buys into the Bushite myths about Iran, calls for the entire Iranian military to be designated "Global Terrorists" under a Bush executive order, and states that it should be U.S. policy to use all instruments of our national power (specifically including "military instruments") to confront the "destabilizing influence" of Iran.

Democrats -- especially Sen. Hillary Clinton -- are now trying to deny that their vote for this resolution gave Bush a free pass to go after Iran, claiming that the resolution was only meant to apply to Iranian interference in Iraq. Intentions are nice, but Bush is not. The amendment's language plainly allows plenty of wiggle room, and the Bushites have shown that they will interpret even an errant sneeze as permission to do whatever they want. Besides, why the hell would Democrats pass anything involving the expansion of this horrible war? Voters put them in charge of Congress to go the opposite way, not to buck up Bush with a new piece of warmongering that Sen. Jim Webb has called "Cheney's fondest pipe dream."
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:29 AM
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3. De acuerdo....Essentially, if these madmen want to do it, there's no one to stop them.....
.... barring a massive military revolt.
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:02 AM
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5. BEHIND THE DRUMS OF WAR WITH IRAN

On October 25, 2007, the United States announced harsh new penalties on the Iranian military and its state-owned banking systems. Sanctions, bellicose rhetoric and the implicit threat of military action are goads for another war, one that critics fear is more likely to ignite a nuclear holocaust than prevent one. The question is, why is Iran considered such a serious threat? The official explanation is that it is planning to develop nuclear weapons. But the head of the UN watchdog agency IAEA says he has "no concrete evidence" of an Iranian weapons program.1

And even if there were one, a number of countries have tested or possess nuclear weapons outside the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, including Pakistan, North Korea, India, and probably Israel; yet we don't consider that grounds for military action. Iran would just be joining a long list of nuclear powers.

Another theory says the push for war is all about oil; but Iran supplies only 15 percent of total Persian Gulf oil exports, and its oil is already for sale.2

We don't need to go to war for it. We can just buy it.

rest here

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4639
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:09 AM
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6. If they were facing impeachment proceedings, they wouldn't have time
for it.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:37 AM
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8. more importantly, the ONLY way to stop them is to impeach, nothing less
would.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 08:47 AM
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10. A Conversation With Seymour Hersh
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:14 PM
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20. Hey, thanks. Listening carefully now.
(But, since Oct 16th: "All time views:268" - word needs spreading).
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:00 AM
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11. Iran is a gateway to the Caspian Basin.
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:02 AM by formercia
No matter that an attempt by the boys to seize the oil reserves there would surely precipitate a conflict with Russia.

This is similar to the ploy used by the Nazis to seize the Romanian oil fields to supply their war machine.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:22 AM
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12. We know of exactly ONE country's leader who is guilty of
plotting global war. One.

George W. Bush.

(He is also guilty of terrorist attacks on civilian populations, of course.)
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:03 AM
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15. Exactly, why would the Shiite majority in Iran
want to hook up with Al Cia-da? One of my dear friends is from Tehran and he says the Iranian people can't stand Ahmadinjad, by next year he will out of power. He calls him the "little asshole." :rofl:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:29 AM
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16. And we have "big asshole" and his puppet
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 10:30 AM by BushDespiser12
ruining this country.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:03 AM
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18. I assume you mean BiggusDickus
and the Chimp. In that order...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:45 AM
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19. Yes indeedy.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:57 AM
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25. Hey, that's great if it's true...

what then is driving the push to war, I wonder. Are we running out of time before Iran has a more level-headed government?
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:27 PM
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23. Soros at Book Fair said they plan to attack between March n June 2008
and I tend to think George Soros has the connections to know. I love that Biden says he told Bush to his face if he goes to war against Iran without consulting Congress, Biden's going for impeachment.

What are they waiting for, as Kucinich said in Las Vegas?
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:37 AM
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24. Biden's going for impeachment *after* Bush goes to war with Iran!
Boy, howdy, I'll bet George is so scared he's cancelling his plans for war right this minute.

Give me a break, Joe Biden!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:08 AM
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26. Sen Biden needs to go for Impeachment now!
After the Iran attack will be too late!
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:36 AM
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28. Not to mention other senators, who will support Kucinich's...
...impeachment resolution!
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:08 AM
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27. Assuming they aren't stopped
I think they plan to try to push the Democratic Convention off the news with it.
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