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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:00 PM
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Do they still salute with fingertip touching the far edge of the eyebrow?
I'm just wondering if it's still the same because I can't tell you how many movies I've seen in the last three weeks where the soldier is putting his stiff hand over the top of the entire eyebrow and it's disconcerting.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:02 PM
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1. I'm waiting for them to change it
To the "Ave Caesar" variation.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:02 PM
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2. They are supposed to. But there are a lot of improper salutes out there--
my husband (Air Force guy) is weirdly sensitive about this issue. He gets worked up over airmen not wearing the uniform properly, either.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:13 PM
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7. As he should
I was a holy terror during my tour as CMAA. Airmen, Sailors, Soldiers, Marines etc will wear uniforms improperly, salute incorrectly etc ONLY IF ALLOWED TO. If one is proud of his/her uniform then correction should not be needed.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:17 PM
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8. Just wait till all vets are authorized the military salute.
Which I think is a good thing. But good luck enforcing that.
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:08 PM
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14. I have been waiting for that as well
but the bill seems to be stalled, as usual.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:26 PM
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23. Yep, passed the Senate.
Prolly die there. More important to pass legislation that condemns Moveon.org
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:13 PM
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28. You're right
and it gets more frustrating every time I think about it, and every time some new stupid "Condemnation" wastes time.

It's a very simple piece of work for them, and we have earned it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:19 PM
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9. We used to hold our uniforms together with staples.
That clothing allowance was laughable at best. And, beer was a helluva lot more important than buttons.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:20 PM
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10. LOL! I suppose. It's just funny to watch my husband stop an airman
out in a parking lot and ask him where his cap is--I'm a civilian, and I don't get that sort of attention to detail.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:54 PM
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20. Same here.
I also hate the backwards flag being displayed on uniforms. The stars should be on the left, not the right and it bugs me to no end.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:03 PM
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3. Don't know. But we used to enjoy saluting officers with armloads of groceries.
Amazing how strong reflexes can be.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:03 PM
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4. Nah, they use the edge of their hand, while trying not to
hit their head on Marine 1 or dump the poor dog on his. (oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the doofus-in-chief)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:04 PM
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5. Is there still no sound in space?
Because I watched several movies recently wherein I saw several spaceships making distinct wooshing sounds, and I'm very concerned about the state of modern physics.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:05 PM
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6. I have been wondering -
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 03:08 PM by DURHAM D
if Hillary becomes Commander and Chief will she salute the troops upon review?

I can see it now - if she wins the Dem nomination the fundies will run ads that she should not be elected President because she does not know how and can not be taught to properly salute because she does not have a penis.

Edit: I have also been wondering if she will issue an executive order that those smart little hats can no longer be called "cunt caps".
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:43 PM
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12. I started of as an army brat. It was always my understanding that
one did not salute when not in uniform.

The president, although Commander in Chief, is never in uniform, emphasizing
civilian control over the military. Even though Bush strutted around after his flight, he was not strictly in uniform, and I never recall seeing Eisenhower in one, war hero that he was. And I do not recall Eisenhower as president ever returning a salute.

To the best of my knowledge Reagan, who fought heroically on the back lots of Hollywood during WWII, was the first to do so.

If anyone knows more about this, I would appreciate being corrected, if wrong, along with links, if possible.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:18 PM
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17. I remember Bill Clinton was continually ridiculed
because he did not salute properly - kind of a half salute.

I did not realize it started with Ronnie but of course it did. He loved that false propaganda and patriotism thingie.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:30 PM
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18. It's a shame Clinton aped Reagan and didn't return to the
example set by Washington.

Just think of those who didn't take such a militaristic posture: Washington, Jackson, Grant, Eisenhower, as well other veteran/presidents, many of whom were genuine war heroes.

But then they weren't Hollywood stars.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:22 PM
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11. Why does it even matter how soldiers salute?
There are thousands of more important things soldiers need to worry about, first and foremost staying alive until dictator Bush is gone.

That said, I know exactly how I would salute Bush.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:25 PM
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22. In the movies.
In Hollywood land, they don't seem to direct the actors properly, which reveals the inaccuracy of whatever show you're watching. Most real soldiers I know would be far more versed on the correct way to salute. I just didn't know if it had changed in over thirty years.
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:02 PM
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13. Yes, for the most part.
There are certain exceptions for special cover, but the general rule is as listed below; getting the tip of the index finger to the headress is typically guided by the middle finger and the eyebrow which is where the eyebrow thing came into play in the first place. Hope this helps.

And for the record, a poor salute drives me batty as well.

SNIP
Execution of the Hand Salute is performed as follows: "the right
hand is raised smartly until the tip of the forefinger touches the lower
part of the headdress or forehead above and slightly to the right of the
right eye, thumb and fingers extended and joined, palm to the left,
upper arm horizontal, forearm inclined at 45 degrees, hand and wrist
straight; at the same time turn head toward the person saluted. To
complete the salute, drop the arm to its normal position by the side in
one motion, at the same time turning the head and eyes to the front".
It has been said that a sloppy salute is worse than not saluting at all.
Your technique and your confidence to apply your saluting skills are
directly proportional to how much you practice. Sloppy saluting is a
very clear reflection of your lack of personal pride and respect for your
organization, and the Air Force.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:56 PM
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21. So now we know what the Air Force was occupied with on 9/11! nt
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:09 PM
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27. I can't help but wonder
if there's a big rock nearby with a hole underneath?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:26 PM
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24. That's how I remember it.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:15 PM
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15. US Army Field Manual of Drill and Ceremony


The United States Army Field Manual does forbid saluting “with a noticeable object in your mouth or right hand,” but no mention of “dogs under arms."
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:46 PM
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19. ...
:rofl:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:27 PM
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25. I knew that photo would surface. Lol!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:15 PM
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16. When I was in the service, you only saluted if you were wearing a cover (hat/cap).
I don't remember ever saluting with a bare head.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:41 PM
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26. I Never Quite Got the Hang of It.
I always figured I was doing it right if my fingertip was in the general area of my temple.

What bothers ME about TV shows and movies that feature servicemen is when the guy has hair down to his shoulders. You don't see it much anymore, but it was rampant back in the 70's and 80's.

Man, I'm old.
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