Would you give away your Kucinich vote to beat Hillary in the primaries?

[RiverStone]

Lets say by the time your primary/caucus rolled around, it was obvious that either Edwards or Obama had a real chance to beat out Hillary as our nominee. Would you trade in your Kucinich vote to beat Hillary by voting for John or Barack?

Voting my conscience = staying with Dennis

Voting strategically = having an alternative to Hillary

And yes, I'm sorry but I'm assuming DK has not the M$M attention, money, or name recognition to win the nomination. Sadly, America is not ready to listen to the truth...yet.

Owning my choice, if I think Edwards or Obama has a decent shot at the nomination - I'd vote for either in the primaries. And hope they would appoint Dennis as head of the new Department of Peace!

[fenriswolf]

1. i've got to be honest

if a hypothetical situation like that came up (how would you know if that was the situation in the primaries?) I would have to take a good long look at edwards (obama doesnt get my vote after that liqued coal thing)

[Clark2008]

25. But Edwards would get your vote after his entire Senate career thing?

:wtf:

[peace13]

2. No!

NGU!!

[robinlynne]

3. yes.

editing to add; That is why I donate money to kucinich and write letters of support for the great things he does, and plan to vote for Edwards.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

4. Hillary Has It Locked Up

I'll probably vote for Edwards, since he's the one who I'm most comfortable with, yet has a decent chance. Kucinich has None, unfortunately.

I don't think it matters much though, as Hillary has been promised the nomination, and she'll get it.

I Won't be voting for her next November, so y'all can blame me for helping get another repub elected. Frankly, I don't give a shit anymore. This country deserves to fail.

[RiverStone]

11. pretty pessimistic there...

Dang Orange, your thinking this country "deserves to fail" sounds grim.

For my 2 teenagers and all the other kids of their generation, who are walking into adulthood saddled with Shrub's insane war debt and his intrusions into personal liberties - I sure won't say the country deserves to fail.

I still hold out hope that we can change it for the better!!!

I will not accept a defeatist view and condemn my kids to more of the same. Particularly not another RW appointment to SCOTUS - talk about a clusterfuck for a generation! I simply can't do that. I don't feel HRC has a lock on the nod; I do feel that it will take a hell of an effort tho to kick her off the top of the donkey cart.

I'm going to try.

[bobthedrummer]

5. No.

[LakeSamish706]

6. I have said many times that if Hillary wins the Primary I would...

hold my nose and vote for her, just to get a Democrat in the WH.... But I agree with #1 I would give up my Kucinich vote if I knew without a shadow of a doubt that he did not have a hope in hell of wining.

[Deep13]

7. I need to see who survives Iowa, NH and NV first.

I don't have as much of a personal problem with HRC as a lot of the posters. I think a demonstrated ability to function in Washington is more important than specific issues.

[kdmorris]

8. My primary vote doesn't count anyway

But...Yes, if Edwards was still on the ballot and had a chance of winning, I would vote for him.

I got to vote for Kucinich in the 2004 primaries. It was a wonderful feeling... to vote for someone you like... but elections in America are about strategy, sadly, and I would feel that Edwards would have a better chance of beating Clinton than Kucinich.

[MuseRider]

9. No. I don't see this as a game.

Not playing.

[mike_c]

10. kucinich is the only one of the pack I WANT for POTUS...

...so why would I vote for a candidate I don't want in order to defeat another candidate I don't want, when there is a candidate that I do want? That's strategic stupidity, IMO.

In a word, NO, my vote for Dennis Kucinich is not a strategic tool.

[redqueen]

12. I keep thinking about it... but I doubt I will.

For as much as the idea seems pragmatic, I know that only one candidate will even TRY to do all the things that I think need to be done... should have been done decades ago, if we as a country truly intended to lead by example.

Well, lead to GOOD things... we're leading now and always have, it's just nearly *always* in the wrong direction.

[toadzilla]

13. nope.

If we don't stand up and actually vote for what we believe in we will never get it.

The so called "top three" aren't very different from each other anyways.

[warren pease]

14. No.

I'll vote for DK precisely because I want to beat Clinton and the rest of these sorry corporate androids, not because I feel it's a throw-away vote. If everybody who supports what Kucinich stands for but repeats the nauseating cliche that he can't possibly win said screw it and actually voted for him anyway, I'd guess that his numbers would look pretty respectable at the end of the day.

And don't forget that the cliche was started and perpetuated by the very same mass media that spends all its time shilling for corporatist candidates and that the very last thing their masters at GE, Time Warner, News Corp., Disney and Viacom want or need is an actual progressive in the White House.

Kucinich would reinstate regulatory oversight, subject mass media to SEC scrutiny and dismantle the 1996 Telecom Act. If necessary, he would use the old but reliable Sherman Anti-Trust Act to break up media monopolies. Since this is the worst thing in the world for these vampires, that makes Kucinich by definition the only sensible choice.

Unless you like the way Fux and CNN present the "news."


wp

[Vincardog]

15. NO, How about y'all give your Edwards and Obama votes to Kucinich? That

way we might just maybe be able to elect someone who will work to return this country to the people?

[Paulie]

16. Primary I will vote my choice, and not against anyone

Only time I'll get the chance. sigh...

[WA98296]

17. No, especiallly if it means voting for ANY DLC member( primaries or election).

[ThomWV]

18. I would vote for Edwards

[Dhalgren]

19. No. My vote is non-negotiable. There is so little differences between

the corporate candidates, that it really doesn't matter which one of them "wins" - we lose. If Kucinich dropped out, I would vote for Dodd, but that is as far as I would go...

[parkerll]

20. Nope.

My vote is as steadfast for Kucinich as he is steadfast on the issues. I'll write him in for both elections if I have to. (South Carolina)

[stillcool]

I will vote for my preferred candidate..

regardless of the preferred candidate of people I don't know. I am far more interested, and concerned about how the votes will be counted...not how they are cast.

[peace13]

21. I want to add that there is no guarantee who might really win.

You are trusting your vote to the MSM and advertising corps. when you switch because you heard or read something was a given. Stand up with the person who best represents the world you wish to live in. The alternative is to settle for something less. Peace, Kim

[msongs]

22. kucinich is a real progressive, the others are basically clones of each other

with minor variations in their war tendencies, whether military or economic.


Dennis Kucinich is for equal rights for all Americans, something the other 3 are not.
If all the people who believe in Kucinich's values and programs would vote for him
the glbt population would have equal rights.

he does not to my knowledge practice divisive politics based on age or generation either.

msongs

[book_worm]

23. Nope!!

[Clark2008]

24. No - because I'm only barely voting for Dennis.

I can't stand the other corporate pansies running and have decided that I'd vote for Dennis because he's the least offensive of a pretty damn weak field (weak if you're a working-class person, I mean).

Don't get me wrong, I like Dennis's ideas, but I don't think he has a shot in hell.

It really sucks having no viable candidate willing to stand up for the working person, against the war and for single-payer health care.

[mmonk]

26. No

Not unless that was some power brokering or the house decided to impeach.

[trashcanistanista]

27. No n/t

[caseycoon]

28. NO!

Dennis is the only one who is standing & will stand for what I believe in, so I damn well will stand up for Dennis.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. No. And, I may very well not give it away in the General.

K-U-C-I-N-I-C-H.

That "write-in" line on my ballot may be very useful.

[Bitwit1234]

30. Then you wouldn't be worth two censt

If you support your candidate and he is on the ballot and you vote for someone else just so you can defeat another candidate you are stupid. If Edwards is on the ballot and I have a chance to vote for him, I would not vote for Hillary to knock Obama out. I AM FOR EDWARDS. I hate the way the people on this list flame HIllary. I think it is undemocratic and unAmerican. You all remind me of a bunch of republicans who sneak and smirk and are underhanded as crap. SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE IF THEY LOOSE SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE. OR ELSE YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE DEMOCRATS.

[datadiva]

31. No, n/t

[Rainbowreflect]

32. Nope!

And I will most likely write him in in the general election. Only because my state always goes red.

[Josiah1982]

33. No. Why don't we get Obama and Edwards voters to change their minds

and vote for Dennis in the primary? If they would support the truly progressive candidacy of Dennis Kucinich we could pretty much assure ourselves that Dennis would win the nomination. But I suppose Obama and Edwards voters would not want to sacrify their vote.

[flvegan]

34. Nope. If we fail to get both what we want and need, then the failure is ours.

[bigwillq]

35. Nope

I am voting for DK! THis is the one election that I get to vote for who I really want to so I'm sticking with DK!

[crispini]

36. If my primary were competitive, then yes.

But mine will be too late to mean anything. :shrug:

[hootinholler]

37. Bad attitude dude,

"Sadly, America is not ready to listen to the truth...yet."

Wrong. America knows the truth, the media won't say it out loud. That means it's up to us to get the message out.

Oh, and I *always* vote my conscience.

-Hoot

[RiverStone]

40. If a few more Nader fans did not...

vote their conscience, then maybe Gore would have retained his right to the presidency.

I do understand your point, and admittedly I'm struggling with my decision (hence, the question).

But again if you knew that by advocating to Nader fans back in 2000, we would not have had to endure 8 years of Shrub hell and all the shit he brought with it - would you have suggested they change their vote from Nader to Gore?

[hootinholler]

44. I didn't know and I begged them to vote Gore.

I was part of a vote swap plan since Gore had my state sewn up.

-Hoot

[cynatnite]

38. I'll give my vote to whoever I think is best for the job and...

who I think would win in the general election.

[RiverStone]

42. Sadly, who is best and who would win may be different...

Dennis is best.

I believe he has no chance to win in 2008 (maybe down the road).

I want a Dem to win and I don't want it to be Hillary. Of course, we all want something - does not mean shit in the big picture if one does not vote at all.

[cynatnite]

46. It's a combination of both...

those two and others are how I determine my choice.

[KoKo]

39. NO! I was forced into "ABB" last time...THIS TIME...it's my one puny vote...

but it's MINE and I'm clutching it in my COLD HARD FINGERS FOR PRINCIPLE! Rant on...try to make folks feel Guilty...It' won't work. So many have fought too long and too hard to let MEDIA or CLINTON'S Murdoch Backers assume our Presidency.

It's the "Principles that we Stand for." Get over it that folks might have "PRINCIPLES" who won't vote for "Clinton, Obama, Edwards."

Lock STEP isn't relevant...and what the hell should YOU CARE when the Media will Decide the Candidate and my puny vote doesn't matter shit anyway!

[stranger81]

41. yes, I'd think about it long and hard with this roster of candidates,

but what I would ultimately do would depend on the likelihood that switching my vote to Edwards or Obama would actually make a difference. If it likely wouldn't, then it's DK all the way.

[Vinca]

43. I'm wrestling with this very question and I don't know for certain what to do.

A NH primary vote is an important one. I really want to pull the lever for Kucinich, a real vote FOR someone, rather than a vote for someone else AGAINST Hillary. I really can't stand her and I don't know what to do.

[BuyingThyme]

45. Strategy may be the only working strategy.

I think a combination of Dennis and Edwards or Edwards and Obama would work very nicely, but I don't think an Obama and Dennis combo would bring results.

[ecstatic]

47. Why not have Obama/Edwards supporters switch to Kucinich? nt

[Toasterlad]

48. No. My Vote is My Voice. I Don't Sell Out (on voting for elected officials).

If I voted for someone I didn't want, I'd be a liar. I don't care how many scare tactics the lock-steppers throw my way.

However, my American Idol vote is up for grabs to the highest bidder.

[Individualist]

49. The "I like Dennis, but...." tactic has gotten really stale.

It's almost as worn out as the inane use of the supreme court as an attempt to get people to vote for Hillary.

No, I won't change my vote.

[RebelSansCause]

50. NO!

it is my vote and i will vote for the candidate who best represents my view of what this country needs, a progressive leaders. the "top 3" are all essentially the same (i.e. corporate shills). my vote is mine and mine alone, i will vote my conscience or else i will not be able to look myself in the mirror, i would like to see someone try and take it away from me or telling me that MY vote is wrong. i support the Nader backers from 2000, maybe it was Gore who should have campaigned in a way as to distance himself from Bush. this is a democracy. i might very well write dennis in for the GE unless NY becomes a battleground state overnight. even then...well i just do not know.

[AlCzervik]

51. not just no but hell no.