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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:25 AM
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20 of pat robertson's more vile, yet not well publicized, things he's said
Just thought everyone might like to be reminded (and would like to remind other people) of the idiotic, outrageous and dangerous comments made by this modern day huckster.

1.The Lord had proclaimed: "It will be a year of sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world
being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it." (1980)

***We all remember God's brief return in 1980. He ruled for 1000 days and went back to Heaven. Or something like that.

2. The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening. (1981)

***Considering what Jefferson and Madison had to say...I'm not sure how he came up with his interpretation

3. Robertson "predicted that Russia would invade Israel in 1982 and that there would be a worldwide economic
collapse in 1985." And it says he "predicted that U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller would be elected president in 1996."

***We all remember the glory years of the Rockefeller Presidency.

4. I am not bound by any case or any court to which I myself am not a party.... I don't think the Congress of the United States is subservient to the courts.... They can ignore a Supreme Court ruling if they so choose. (1986)

***And people wonder why he failed the Bar exam

5. Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him. (1986)

6. I never said that in my life ... I never said only Christians and Jews. I never said that. (4 days later in 1986)

7. For example, Robertson says God told him: "I have chosen you to usher in the coming of My Son." God expounded: "I'm going to let you usher him in. Now, where do you usher in the Coming? You usher in the Coming where He's going to come." (1986)

8. Many observers say that AIDS is the hammer and gun of the homosexual movement, an effective vehicle to propel the homosexual agenda throughout every phase of our society. (1990)

9. You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them. (1991)

10.. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." (1993 Interview with Molly Ivins)

***I'm sure the Gypsies in Europe might strongly disagree

11. I think "one man, one vote," just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights.
(1992)

***In case you're confused. Marion is explaining why WHITE votes in SOUTH AFRICA should count more because they're the minority.

12. Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, they were members of the Church of Satan. (1993)

***It's probably significant that the Church of Satan was formed by Anton Szandor LaVey in the 1960's.

13. The public education movement has also been an anti-Christian movement... We can change education in America if you put Christian principles in and Christian pedagogy in. In three years, you would totally revolutionize education in America. (1993)

14. These socialists, and they're in there now, starting with the President and his associates ... they want to squeeze out religion because if people read the Bible, they can't be enslaved. You'll never have a socialist government where everybody's Christian. (1994)

15. These girls are not stupid. If you want to pay them five hundred, six hundred, seven hundred, eight hundred dollars a month, or whatever it is, to have a baby, they'll have babies. And if they'll stop paying them, they'll stop having babies. It's that simple. It's not heartless, it's not cruel, it's an intelligent use of money. (1995 on Welfare Mothers)

16. People For the American Way were founded by the creator of Archie Bunker. Do we want Archie Bunker determining what the United States Senate votes for? (2001)

***Amazing how he twists that one.

17. In what has become an annual tradition of prognostications, religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said Tuesday God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in "mass killing" late in 2007. (2006)

***Time is running out Marion

18. In May, Robertson said God told him that storms and possibly a tsunami were to crash into America's coastline in 2006. Even though the U.S. was not hit with a tsunami, Robertson on Tuesday cited last spring's heavy rains and flooding in New England as partly fulfilling the prediction. (2006)

19. God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.' (2006)

20. If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality.... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering.... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice. (His book: New World Order)

***betcha didn’t know the Ayatollah Khomeini was a Hindu did ya? That’s what you get when you listen to God’s messenger pat.

An extra added marion 'pat' robertson bonus:

Can't find the quote from this idea from 1984. But I remember when he put forth this idea:
Robertson suggested that special church tribunals could be called upon to discern if a believer had in fact received an authentic word from God which compelled him to break a civil law. According to Robertson, if this church tribunal did determine the believer had in fact received an authentic message from God -- how they could reach this conclusion without issuing God a subpoena wasn't made clear -- then, Robertson said, the church tribunal would have the civil authority to provide the believer with immunity from prosecution."

***Needless to say, if you killed a doctor that performed abortions, probably killed a gay man because he smiled at you, etc. then God probably told you to kill them.


As an added bonus in 2005, he compared the plight of Christians in the US to Christians in Nrth Korea. In North Korea they murder Christians and people of other faiths in quite horrible ways.
I don't remember reading about those things happening in the US

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:29 AM
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1. What a great American.
When does he get HIS medal of freedom?????
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:31 AM
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2. Gandhi running Health, Education and Welfare?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 10:31 AM by MikeNearMcChord
I would be for it!
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:33 AM
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3. Great compilation of this idiot's utterances.
He is the poster boy for seperation of church and state.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:36 AM
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4. Sickening that that idiot has so many followers.
:banghead:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:39 AM
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5. 2nd Lt. Pat Robertson abandoned his platoon before arriving in Korea.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 10:46 AM by Octafish
My source: U.S. Rep. Pete McCloskey, then also a Marine officer.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/01/james-brady-on-media-cx_jb_0202patrobert.html

The North Korean Army LOVES Pat Robertson

The unctuous TV preacher Marion “Pat” Robertson once was a US Marine officer when he got the call that maybe his life was too important to risk on the battlefield. Sounds familiar to a certain "first family" we know and don't admire.

The story begins in 1951 aboard a Marine troop ship on the way to the fighting on the Korean peninsula. Leading a platoon was the greasy turd Pat Robertson, a newly minted 2nd Lieutenant. A 90-day wonder, 2nd Lt. Robertson got second thoughts about the dire situation that awaited him.

So, Pat Robertson decided to call his daddy, then a very, very conservative and Democratic Senator from Virginia, to get him pulled off his troop transport ASAFP. We wouldn't know about this from all his biographical information on the Pay the Lord Club.

But Robertson did tell the the other officers he would be saying “Sayonara!” when the ship pulled into Yokohama, its final stop before heading toward Korea. The other officers thought he was joking, but when the ship shoved off, there was Pat (and another 2nd lieutenant) on the dock, waving buh-bye.

Most of the officers and Marines went on to get wounded and killed in some of the most fierce action of the Korean War. Not Pat, though. He got assigned to Tokyo and Yokohama, where he earned a reputation as an officer who could get the job done, when it came to booze.

Very odd, in a hypocritical way. Robertson claimed, when he ran for presidunt in 1988, he was a "combat Marine." PTL, at least a couple remember the Truth.

The story was repeated in 1988 when Robertson ran for president as a “Combat Veteran.” The source of the story was Pete McCloskey (R-Calif. McCloskey, then a 2nd Lieutenant leading a platoon of his own, one of the surviving USMC officers who was on the transport.

When Pat Robertson ran for President in 1988, Pete McCloskey decided to relate the story. Pat sued him for libel, but dropped the charges the day the case was to go to trial.

Here's a great resource on the subject:



THE LIQUOR OFFICER

Or PAT ROBERTSON GOES TO WAR


EXCERPT...

Robertson had sailed for Korea in January, 1951, as a new young Second Lieutenant fresh out of Quantico's 11 week basic platoon leader training course. With him was his friend and classmate from Washington and Lee, Ed Gaines. The First Marine Division had taken fearful casualties at the Chosin Reservoir in December when the Chinese had entered this war with a vengeance; new second lieutenants were needed badly and the rumored life expectancy of platoon leaders in combat was only six minutes. Robertson was one of 71 officers and 1900 enlisted men in the Fifth Replacement Draft aboard the U.S.S. General J. C. Breckenridge. The full draft was needed to bring the Divisions' three rifle regiments up to strength for General MacArthur's planned February counter-attack against the Chinese. On the last day before leaving for Korea, however, Robertson and Gaines had been pulled off the ship in Kobe, Japan, with four others whose names had the misfortune to be listed next to Gaines on the roster of lieutenants assigned to the 7th Regiment. The reason: ostensibly to train young Marines coming out of the hospitals after the Chosin Reservoir battle.

Both the First Marine Division personnel office and those officers aboard the Breckenridge who had had combat duty were offended. Captain Harry Steinmeyer, a decorated veteran of Guadalcanal wrote on February 14, 1951:

"Happy Valentines: Here's one I have to tell you. Lt. Gaines & a Lt. Robinson (Whose Father is Senator from Va) were taken off in Japan. In short there were 80 men and 8 2nd Lts pulled on the pretense of training men who came from Korea to go back there. Gaines slipped 2 days before we got to Japan and said he & the other one were going to be pulled off there. It's really rotten politics. I'd sure like to write Winchell on it. See what Walter & Daddy say about that. At least I can live with my conscience. Well so much for that"

First Lieutenant David Hartstein, the Draft's adjutant, wrote his wife the same day:

"Hi There Valentine: Oh yes, there is one thing I wanted to tell you about. When we were in Kobe yesterday a Col. came aboard to choose several officers to retrain casualties that were getting ready to 90 back to Korea. He chose 6 second Lts. none of whom have ever had any combat. Its interesting to note that two of them had said they wouldn't have to go to Korea. One was the Robertson that General Sheppard wanted to see and I'm sure that his father being the Senator from Virginia had nothing to do with it and the other was a kid named Gaines whose father is president of Washington and Lee university. it is interesting though isn't it. See that's what you get when you choose the wrong parents. Incidentally they are both very nice guys but no more anxious to go than the rest of us."

What had caused this extraordinary salvation? As the trial date of March 8, 1988 approached, Robertson found himself in an increasing dilemma. He had shocked the Republicans by strong second place finishes, in Iowa., South Dakota and Minnesota; he had nearly won Michigan, and expected to win South Carolina on Saturday, March 5. March 8, "Super Tuesday" with its 22 separate primaries, was expected to provide perhaps even a majority of delegates in the bible belt states where from whence came Robertson's strongest support. His lawsuit had suppressed any media comment on his alleged "liquor officer" background.

CONTINUED...

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm



Pat Robertson is even lower than that. The turd sold PTL for billions, keeping all the money he bilked out of all those senior citizens. He invested the money into gold and diamonds, big-time. Blood diamonds.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:16 PM
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8. Know your BFEE: Pat Robertson Incoporated a Gold Mine with a Terrorist
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:47 AM
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6. Wow - so in his own words, Bush is "the spirit of the Antichrist?"
9. You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them. (1991)

Last I checked, GWB was a Methodist (albeit one who gives the rest of us a bad name). :shrug: Two can play at the idiotic broad-brush statements game, Mr. Robertson...
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:51 AM
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7. Thank you for posting this. K&R eom
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:28 PM
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9. A few of his comments on women and Jews:
" feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." (Fundraising letter from Pat Robertson that was an in-kind contribution to the Iowa Committee to Stop ERA, as reported in The Washington Post, August 23, 1993)

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." (Federal News Service, Sept. 11, 1992, quoting a Robertson newsletter.)

"Why are so many marriages falling apart? Why is the divorce rate so high? ...Why is there such a tragedy in marriage?...Now the basic answer to the basic
"(Robertson) chastised women legislators who support no-fault divorce laws that he says encourage men to split. 'Any woman who votes for no-fault divorce is like a turkey voting for Thanksgiving,' Robertson said, paraphrasing a conservative commentator." (The State-Record, Columbia, SC,June 28, 1992)

Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition has spoken of Jews being "spiritually blind" and "spiritually deaf." (St. Petersburg Times,June 26, 1994)
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