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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:20 PM
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Tony Snow: I'm Not Sure Anything Went Wrong In Iraq .
NEW YORK Surely, at this stage, the White House would be willing to admit that conditions in Iraq following the 2003 invasion haven't gone exactly according to plan? White House Press Secretary Tony Snow was asked about this today at the daily briefing, following the release of military documents from 2002 that revealed that the U.S. expected that a token American force of 5,000 would be able to keep things under control in Iraq.

"What went wrong?" the reporter reasonably asked.

Snow replied: "I'm not sure anything went wrong."

He elaborated: "At the beginning of the Civil War, people thought it would all be over at Manassas. It is very difficult -- no, Jessica, the fact is, a war is a big, complex thing. And what you're talking about is a 2002 assessment. We're now in the year 2007, and it is well-known by anybody who has studied any war that war plans immediately become moot upon the first contact with the enemy.

"For instance, a lot of people did not think that we would have the success we had moving swiftly into Baghdad. All I'm saying is that -- what happens is, you're looking at a pre-war assessment, and there have been constant assessments ever since. A war is not a situation where you can sit down and neatly predict what exactly is going to happen. You make your best estimates, but you also understand that there are going to continue to be challenges, there are going to be things that you don't anticipate, there are going to be things that the enemy doesn't anticipate. And the most important task, frankly, is to continue to try to assess near-term and mid-term to figure out how best to address the situation."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_di...

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:22 PM
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1. Why waste their time with that idiot? He's drunk on Kool-Aid
Gawd, talk about delusional.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:22 PM
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2. All those words, and yet he says NOTHING. What a ridiculous bunch....
:crazy:
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:22 PM
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3. Never ceases to amaze me. These guys can spin a hippo into a mouse.
Talk about out of touch with reality.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:23 PM
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5. or in the case of Iraq, a mouse into a hippo.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 04:23 PM by Lastlaughin08
Unreal. Just unreal.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:23 PM
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Yeah, well, the assholes he works for sure had lots of neat 'predictions'
:grr:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:23 PM
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4. If Iraq Is A Product Of Their Plan Going RIGHT, Then They Are Some Evil Intentioned Motherfuckers...
.....oh .....wait
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:38 PM
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18. ding ding ding !!
:evilfrown: It turned out exactly like they wanted it to.

Ka-ching Bling Bling. :spank:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:23 PM
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6. Tony Snowjob is at it again.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:24 PM
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7. Tony needs a Road Trip To Iraq nt
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:46 PM
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25. Here's a photo
of things going just fine on his last trip to Baghdad.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:51 PM
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26. Wearing his casual wear I see
Yep no problems here.....
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:31 PM
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33. Caption Snow: "I think I just wet myself!" eom
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:25 PM
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8. I predicted it. Lots of people predicted it.
We even wrote about it and put it in print. We knew racing across the desert would be nothing. We knew taking Baghdad would be nothing (I mean - did anyone but ME see those pathetic old men running around the city with some old rifles?)

We also predicted the chaos we see today.

So what the hell Tony? Just how stupid are you people?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:26 PM
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9. Coming to a Daily Show segment near you
and soon!
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:27 PM
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10. And as any self-respecting ...
redneck will tell you, 'the Civil War ain't over'.... And they're right.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:27 PM
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11. The man is certifiable
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:32 PM
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14. Snow Job studied Baghdad Bob carefully.
:crazy:
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:28 PM
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12. :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew:
:spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:30 PM
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13. "All I'm saying is that" it isn't 6 days, 6 weeks or 6 months. It's 4 years, buddy.
And pretty soon it will be 6 years. Snow isn't converting anybody to his way of thinking. THe ship is sinking.
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:34 PM
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15. THIS GUY IS SMOKING FUCKING CRACK.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:36 PM
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17. ...crack actually helps develop the brain's *lie center*
:rofl:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:35 PM
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16. nope. all went just fine. bush friends power increased,
war profiteering at an all time high, privitization and plunder of iraq still on track, planned domination of ME oil resources proceeding as planned. Still getting away with robbery and murder.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:39 PM
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19. Never, thought I'd say it, but I miss Scotty.
sNOw=Baghdad Bob reincarnated. Amazing.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:43 PM
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23. Scotty had obvious "tells" when lying - Snow doesn't
of course, Snow is lying 100% of the time, so we're really not sure if he's exhibiting any "tells" or not.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:13 PM
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29. His tell, to borrow an old gag,
is that his lips are moving.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:19 PM
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30. True dat!
:rofl:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:40 PM
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20. That's right, we won the war. Remember?

Georgie standing in his uniform declaring victory?

What amazes me is they get away with all this crap. Er,
got away with it until now...Waxman has been waiting in
the shadows for the moment to attack. And the moment
is here. Get out the popcorn.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:41 PM
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21. "I'm not sure anything went wrong" - WTF?!
You're "not sure anything went wrong," Tony? Well, I am. I'm damn sure that there's very little RIGHT about 3,133 dead U.S. soldiers, at least 23,530 more wounded, and tens and possibly hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead or wounded in this ridiculous war. Saddam Hussein =/= Al Qaeda, there were no WMDs, and thousands of people have died or have been seriously injured because of LIES. I'm pretty damn sure a LOT went wrong. :grr:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:41 PM
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22. hey, how's that easy takeover of bagdhad working out?
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Jagger69 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:45 PM
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24. Joseph Goebbels
Would be proud of Tony Snow. He's a talking head who is simply another one of Bush's mindless minions.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:54 PM
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27. I'd love to just slap the smirk off Snow's face.
Somehow he seems to think everything is just one big funny video war-game where real people are not getting killed and maimed. His attitude reflects the mind-set of his bosses.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:12 PM
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28. Unbelievable.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:22 PM
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31. whistling past the graveyard(s). n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:24 PM
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32. Quack quack quack...
*sigh* x(
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:32 PM
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34. Wars are more difficult
when the CIVILIAN command betrays the military.

The "we acted in good faith" argument is BS.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:33 PM
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35. Oh for Jeebus' sake.
it is well-known by anybody who has studied any war that war plans immediately become moot upon the first contact with the enemy.

It's also well known to anybody who has studied any war that that phrase stands as a warning against OVERLY OPTIMISTIC PLANNING.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:33 PM
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36. Depends on the pre-war assessment
No plan may survive contact with the enemy, but it sure helps to have an actual plan that's more involved than, "We'll liberate the country and everything will fall into place."
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