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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:41 AM
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"Torture? Sounds like a swimmingly good idea" (Disgusting Canadian Editorial)
"Torture? Sounds like a swimmingly good idea"

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The CIA doesn't do what they do for kicks. As CIA Director Michael Hayden explained the other day, interrogation techniques serve a purpose.

So now that we've established that the detainees in question aren't even protected by the Geneva convention, and that they often have crucial information that can save lives, what about the idea of waterboarding as "torture"?

When asked about it during a recent CNN appearance, I suggested that "one man's torture is another's CIA-sponsored swim lesson." In case anyone thought I was being facetious -- I wasn't.

I suppose that those who object to terror suspects getting water up the nose would say that, as a young competitive swimmer, I was also tortured. It was called "hypoxic training" -- swimming underwater and holding our breath until we passed out. Our coaches didn't call it torture, just an exercise in "mental toughness." So think of it this way -- terror suspects are getting some free mental toughness training courtesy of the U.S. government.

more disgusting words at:
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Marsden_Rachel/2007/11/05/4631834-sun.php

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:43 AM
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1. gawd, do swimming coaches still do that?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:43 AM
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2. Wow
What a sick person
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:49 AM
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3. Rachel Marsden is the Canadian Female Rushbo...
yes, we have fucking loonies up here too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Marsden

Sid
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:56 AM
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4. They told her it was called hypoxic training
It was probably, "let's torture the mouthy wingnut until she goes away."
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:15 AM
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5. awwwwww
somebody wants to grow up to be Ann Coulter! How adorable.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:32 AM
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6. THAT'S NOT HYPOXIC TRAINING
And, hypoxic training is not meant to be an exercise in "mental toughness." And, done properly, you don't pass out during hypoxic training.

Have you ever noticed how Republicans always seem to think it's okay to slip a lie in here and there, to make their points?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:35 AM
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7. Ahh, the convicted stalker rears her ugly head again....
This woman is clinically deranged, has a history of stalking and harassing men and women:

She claimed she was date raped by a SFU swim coach and it turned out SHE was the stalker, not him. There is also this:

More harassment claims

Simon Fraser's harassment policy coordinator Patricia O'Hagan, with whom Marsden became close during the university's investigation into her claims, also left her job in the wake of the scandal. O'Hagan later alleged that Marsden had harassed her, claiming to reporters that the student had called her more than 400 times, tracked her down after she'd changed her number, and signed letters, "love from your daughter who loves you a lot." Marsden responded in kind, claiming that she referred to O'Hagan as mother to "set boundaries" with the older woman, who she said had repeatedly hugged and kissed her. "I felt strange," Marsden told the press, "and wondered what her intentions were." O'Hagan's lawyers told the press she "vehemently denie" that she had had "any type of physical relationship" with Marsden. Two days after O'Hagan's harassment claim, it was reported that Marsden showed up at a conference at which O'Hagan was the guest speaker.

and this:

Marsden eventually returned to SFU as a student, telling the press that she had nowhere else to go and had been living in her car. University officials warned her to keep her distance from Donnelly, and remove reference to him from her website, or else get thrown out of student housing. It was around this time that criminologist Boyd, then 47, accused her of stalking him.

and this:

Marsden was next charged with criminally harassing former Vancouver radio host Michael Morgan in 2002. According to the statement of facts in the case, Marsden and Morgan met in 2001; soon after, he called the police when Marsden sent a teddy bear and flowers to his home. Marsden was warned to stay away from Morgan. But according to court documents, contact resumed and the two began a consensual sexual relationship several months later. When Marsden traveled to the U.S. in 2002, Morgan began dating another woman. According to the court summary of events, this didn't go over well with Marsden, and she began calling and e-mailing him repeatedly, also contacting his new girlfriend, his sister, his son and his business partner, and waiting for him outside his apartment. Police investigated at Morgan's house, where they listened to several phone messages from Marsden described in court documents as "vindictive and threatening." Morgan turned over 38 e-mails sent by Marsden between Sept. 20 and Oct. 10, 2002. According to the court, Marsden also rigged Morgan's computer to send her blind copies of every e-mail he sent to anyone.


Here is a link to the article from which I copied my excerpts:

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2007/04/05/RMarsden/

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