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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:38 PM
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TSA to Begin Requiring ADVANCE Permission to Fly???
"Under new rules proposed by the Transport Security Administration (TSA) (pdf), all airline passengers would need advance permission before flying into, through, or over the United States regardless of citizenship or the airline's national origin.
Currently, the Advanced Passenger Information System, operated by the Customs and Border Patrol, requires airlines to forward a list of passenger information no later than 15 minutes before flights from the US take off (international flights bound for the US have until 15 minutes after take-off). Planes are diverted if a passenger on board is on the no-fly list.

"The new rules mean this information must be submitted 72 hours before departure. Only those given clearance will get a boarding pass. The TSA estimates that 90 to 93 per cent of all travel reservations are final by then.
The proposed rules require the following information for each passenger: full name, sex, date of birth, and redress number (assigned to passengers who use the Travel Redress Inquiry Program because they have been mistakenly placed on the no-fly list), and known traveller number (once there is a programme in place for registering known travellers whose backgrounds have been checked). Non-travellers entering secure areas, such as parents escorting children, will also need clearance."

More at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/12/flying_into_data_hell/

Anyone know anything about the reliability of this publication?

This certainly strikes me as an unreasonable violation of the Constitutional right to travel.

Thanks.
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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1. Bastards!
I cannot begin to express how angry this makes me.

The police state is here, and it is increasing its power over us.

When will we rise up and say "FUCK NO" to tyranny?

Another question for the next debate will be "When will you end the oppression that the TSA is imposing on the American People?"
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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2. I read this somewhere else and it really disturbed me
I can't vouch for the validity of the article, but this is definitely not the first I've heard of this.

:scared:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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3. I love where you found the news..the UK
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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4. Other places have reported this and it is legit but... don't bet on it happening.
I know the federal government has the right to regulate interstate commerce, and especially something like airlines, but this is something congress could oppose with veto-proof majorities, it's so bad. What the TSA wants doesn't mean it's what the TSA will get.

But yes, they did propose the rules.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:45 PM
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5. Yep. And as a "proposed rule", We the People (TM) get no say.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:48 PM
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6. Why anyone would want to come here these days is beyond me.....
Welcome to the Totalitarian States of America.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:51 PM
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7. Pray you don't have a funeral you need to get to.
:(
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:51 PM
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8. Ohhh The Land of the FWEEEEE!!!
and the home of the BWAAAAAVE!!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:53 PM
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9. They have always had to do that.
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 07:57 PM by tjwash
Hello...what does everyone think is in their passports and visas? They have always needed to supply a full passenger manifest before flying over the US. This is nothing new.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:56 PM
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10. Got flights booked all next month
Munich, CDG , and Sydney (long damn flight) no word of this craziness.

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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:06 PM
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11. Randi had Naomi Wolf on her show today.
This is one of the items she mentioned during the "Fascist America, in 10 easy steps" discussion.
Naomi further stated that, among others, she and Ted Kennedy are both on the list of those requiring addition TSA screening.
Here's a link to the April '07 Guardian article (a golden oldie).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329789179-110878,00.html
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