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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:07 PM
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Right wing front group Family Security Matters releases '10 Most Dangerous Organizations'
ThinkProgress: one of America’s ‘most dangerous organizations.’

October 25, 2007


The conservative front group Family Security Matters (FSM) today released its list of “The Ten Most Dangerous Organizations in America.” ThinkProgress earned the 10th spot in the rankings. FSM writes that these 10 “hate” organizations are “growing powerful in the world of politics” and share a common “unwillingness to bend in their strictly biased view of the world.” FSM’s board of advisers includes Frank Gaffney, Barbara Comstock, and Laura Ingraham. Here are 10 most dangerous organizations:

10) ThinkProgress
9) Muslim Student Association
8) CodePINK
7) American Civil Liberties Union, National
6) Family Research Council
5) Center for American Progress
4) League of the South
3) MoveOn.org
2) Universities and Colleges
1) Media Matters for America

Watch your back, Universities and Colleges. We’re coming after you.




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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:09 PM
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1. Republicon party = #1 on real scale of Evil Doers
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM by SpiralHawk
Jeebers, these amoral fascist list-makers are totally into PROJECTION

Own your own crap, Family Freaky Matters for Repressed Hypocrites.

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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:10 PM
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2. At least DU didn't make their list!
Is this list for real, or is it from the Onion?
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:22 PM
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15. What Does It Take??! No Respect. Can we get A Recount?!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:10 PM
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3. The ACLU, and here I was thinking that THEY should be picking the new AG!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:10 PM
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4. Wow!
Right off the bat, any organization that thinks the ACLU or Universities and Colleges are threats should be discredited. They're clearly off an an ideological bender.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:10 PM
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5. I guess "Democratic Underground" is not considered an "organization?"
:cry:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:31 PM
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16. and "Universities and Colleges" are?
we should just let these people have their own country and be done with it. Maybe start a new one in the Arctic Circle somewhere.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:41 PM
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18. I'd prefer the Marianas Trench, personally.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:47 PM
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21. "I don't belong to any organized political web forum..."
apologies to Will Rogers
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:54 PM
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25. Cue Will Rogers! nt
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:11 PM
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6. DU is not even in the top 10? Man we suck.
nt









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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:06 PM
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29. But now we've got something to shoot for!
Let's band together and make our way into the top ten!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:11 PM
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7. Let's play one of these things is not like the other...
Um ... Family Research Council? :wtf:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:11 PM
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8. Universities and Colleges????
They name specific orgs (like the ACLU, etc) then just lump all schools of higher learning into one group. It's like they were half stoned at number 7, and by the time they got to number 3, they were totally wasted.

"Like, yeah, man. We should like totally name ALL the colleges 'n shit, cuz they've got lots of stuff that are totally, like, not what we're about."
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:35 PM
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34. really, they should have specified places like
Bob Jones University, Oral Roberts University, Nazarene University, etc.

Still, it's gotta be a proud day for Media Matters. According to Billo all they do is make fools out of themselves and increase his ratings, but this group at least fears them, even more than the dreaded ACLU.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:36 PM
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36. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe they'll stay away.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:12 PM
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9. Did they toss the Family Research Council in
to pretend it's a balanced look?

BTW, why the hell do all these repuke front groups use the word family in their names?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:44 PM
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45. I'd guess they're fundraising and needed some huff-n-puff to become visible
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:13 PM
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10. Media Matters unwilling to bend?
That's funny. They report the truth and nothing but the truth. What's to bend? And the family research council? A token throw in? Although it is led by a former business partner of a Grand Poobah Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Just what you'd expect from a southern christian conservative republican.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM
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11. A level playing field is a neo-con artist's worst nightmare.
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM by rocknation
And if “growing powerful in the world of politics” and “a strictly biased view of the world” are the basic criteria, shouldn't Fox News and the FSM be on the list, too?

:headbang:
rocknation
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM
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12. 2) Universities and Colleges? Is this an organization?
Or is FSM just denouncing all universities and colleges as "dangerous?"
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:43 PM
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19. Uh, YES.
You don't mean to imply they AREN'T?????

LOL
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:56 PM
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26. I meant as a single organization...not collectively.
Perhaps a single organization devoted to the advancement of...well...colleges and universities.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:46 PM
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20. education is dangerous
it makes propaganda not work as well, and people begin to question things. Plus, depending on the school, they actually become friends with Muslims and Jews and black people and Asians and Hispanics and gay people and (gasp!) realize that people are just people no matter what their label is!!!1!

The right hates education. I've heard Rush and others say that universities are liberal brain washing sites (because smart people tend to realize Rush is full of crap, which is bad for his product and for his bottom line), and even once heard him chastise a man for "letting" his wife go to college. Gah!

:puke:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:08 PM
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30. You are right. But they now have a video tour to prove their point. n/t
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:51 PM
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23. Teaching of critical thought is the most dangerous threat
to the authoritarian mindset - the only reason they didn't rank it as #1, was the attempt not to appear too obvious about it!
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:27 PM
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32. You're exactly right.
I'm a college prof, and I once got into an email exchange with a wingnut columnist for a Boston newspaper on the subject of liberla "bias" in higher ed, for which the "evidence" is the fact that people tend to emerge from college more liberal than they went in. I said, correctly, that the reason this was so was that in college we try to teach critical thinking--i.e., the ability to weigh competing ideas and reach informed conclusions regarding their relative value. He said, "what you call critical thinking, I call indoctrination."
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:24 AM
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51. but, how can that be?
According to the right wing, we should have school choice at all levels because people can choose their own college and our university system is excellent.

Yet, now according to this right wing group, our universities and colleges are a great evil filled with America-haters.

I'm confused?

:sarcasm:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM
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13. We must have less reflectiing and more reflexing!
All that thinking and stuff is dangerous.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:18 PM
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14. Crap. I went to college.
How could I have known? :(
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:33 PM
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17. They call themselves "FSM?"
How dare they bismirch the acronym for the Flying Spaghetti Monster! :grr:

dg
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:49 PM
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22. "Universities and Colleges"?
:wtf:


So 'Family Security Matters' recommends we send our kids where for higher education?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:20 PM
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31. You don't need no fancy college pedigree to stock shelves at WalMart
which is the great conservative plan for the American middle class; what's left of it, anyway.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:52 PM
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24. Woohoo, an Honor Roll! We'll make the list next year, guys. nt
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:59 PM
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27. Damn
There was a Time when Takebackthemedia.com would have made that list :)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:02 PM
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28. just when I thought I saw it all, something else comes along
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:29 PM
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33. Wait -- MMFA is #1? That's their #1 most-dangerous organization?
That's farking incredible. They even beat "Universities and Colleges" and the ubiquitous bogeyman of the ACLU! How ANYONE could read this list with a straight face is beyond my reckoning.

MMFA dares to analyze newscasts and editorials to counter the carefully-maintained myths of liberal bias? DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER!
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:35 PM
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35. Higher Education is dangerous to these fools!
OMFG! Family Research Council? Is that not a right-wing organization?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:38 PM
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37. No, any education is dangerous to these fools
Why do you think Bushco passed NCLB? To raise the next generation to be dumber than this one, etc.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:39 PM
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38. League of the South?
Sounds like a right wing group would love this shit:


* Southerners have respect for human life, in all its stages, as a gift from God. Life should be preserved, nurtured, and protected.

II. Social Independence

The League of the South asserts that Southern society is radically different from the society impressed upon it by an alien occupier. American society today is egalitarian and Marxist and is devoid of any grace or charm. In contrast, we believe in a Southern society that

* Upholds the ontological or spiritual equality of all men before God and the bar of justice, while recognizing and rejoicing in the fact that is has neither been the will of God Almighty nor within the power of human legislation to make any two men mechanically equal.


* Is structured upon the Biblical notion of hierarchy. In short, a recognition of the natural societal order of superiors and subordinates where Christian charity (as found in the second Table of the Law) toward our neighbors produces harmony and stability. Christ is the head of His Church; husbands are the heads of their families; parents are placed over their children; employers rank above their employees; the teacher is superior to his students, etc.


* Recognizes and promotes the sanctity of Christian marriage as an image of the relationship between Christ and His Church; understands that loving and stable families are the backbone of society; stigmatizes perversity and all that seeks to undermine marriage and the family.


http://dixienet.org/New%20Site/corebeliefs.shtml
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:20 AM
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47. 1 out of 10 ain't ... well
It's only 10%, but a stopped clock is right twice a day, right?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:43 PM
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39. Family Research Council?? WTF??
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 04:43 PM by progressoid
What the hell?

This FAmily Research Council?

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?c=HOME

Run by this Tony Perkins?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Perkins_%28politician%29

Am I missing something here?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 06:08 PM
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42. I double-taked on that one too! n/t
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:43 PM
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40. Wow. Even evangelical and fundy colleges, huh?
Messed up wackos. After my years at our evangelical college, I think they probably lumped all college together in fear that even Christian profs are teaching critical thinking skills.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:46 PM
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41. Oh, Source Watch has some outstanding lowdown on their parent org:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Security_Policy

Center for Security Policy is basicly Martin Marietta and Boeing and HP at lunch, with some of the usual suspects thrown in for good measure: Eliot Abrams, etc.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:12 PM
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43. Odd mix
How did "Family Research Council" and "League of the South" get in there?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:22 PM
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44. Why don't we release one of
those "The Very Bottom Line Of The 10(probably couldn't stop @ 10) MOST DANGEROUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE USA?
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RebelSansCause Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:03 PM
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46. wait THE family research council?
who wrote this list? i did not think the neo-conservatives were that stupid that they put in something so obvious. :wtf: i just won't understand it. but then again we're all morans. im series!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:28 AM
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48. Aww, I'm sure Morris Dees is sad that the Southern Poverty
Law Center wasn't on their list. The right loves to hate on him. And they forgot Hollywood too.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:50 AM
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49. For Fascism these groups are dangerous
For Americans though the exacty opposite is the truth.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:21 AM
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50. The only way that list could look more fascist is if they'd included a labor union.
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 08:21 AM by Marr
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:28 AM
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52. MediaMatters is more dangerous than the KKK?
more dangerous than the Oklahoma City bomber/Michigan Militia types?

more dangerous than Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Reunification Church?

more dangerous than neo-nazis and skinheads?

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