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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:08 AM
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New report on Co2 a dire warning; 35 percent increase
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 08:15 AM by Artiechoke
How many times do deniers have to read reports such as these before they get it?

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008918317


Washington D.C. (AHN) - Researchers announced last Monday that the increase of carbon dioxide levels since 2000 has taken an accelerated and alarming pace, by 35 percent. The findings were published in the recent issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=449f72c9-50dd-4e8a-8d6c-6491833b07eb

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Earth's atmosphere is accumulating carbon dioxide much faster than expected, says an international team tracking changes in the global climate system.

Not only are humans pumping greenhouse gases into the air at an unprecedented rate, but the planet's "carbon sinks" are also not absorbing as much CO2 as they used to, the team reported yesterday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Scientists say major mid-latitude droughts between 2002 and 2005 have led to "weakening" of terrestrial carbon sinks -- the growth of trees, shrubs and crops that take CO2 from the air. And changes in wind patterns have enhanced the "ventilation of carbon-rich waters" in the southern oceans since 2000. Add it all up, they say, and the growth rate of atmospheric CO2 is "increasing rapidly."




http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=449f72c9-50dd-4e8a-8d6c-6491833b07eb
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:15 AM
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1. As Rome burns, use your standard duct tape to cover your eyes.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 08:15 AM by lonestarnot
And no manufactures of this multipurpose product are, "Not liable for brows or lashes."
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:26 AM
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2. we are fucked.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:04 AM
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5. I am not!
:)
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:43 AM
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3. I suppose the fires in California are not good...
for this as well? What effect does large forest fires have? How much does it add to the total? From the sat images in another post it looks like it is pumping a lot of crap into the air...

Peace.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:52 AM
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4. Nope. Nor the fires in the Amazon .
The fires have a major effect. I remember when there were fires in West Virginia and the smoke was covering Manhattan. It really drove home for me just how small the planet is.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:18 AM
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11. I did some reading after posting...
It seems that new, young growing forest are the best sinks. Older forest with slow growth rates are not so good at scrubbing...now the question is: Does the controlled forestation techniques we use in the US help or hinder?

It seems to me that planting massive new fast growing forests would be good for the environment, while older slow growth forest that are zero gain sinks might need to be replenished? Is that what nature does by way of wild fires and such?

It is an interesting topic and thanks for getting me researching something useful...

Now if we could just find a way to get rid of the cars and the smoke stacks...

Peace.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:06 AM
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6. Heres' a simple demonstration you can do on climate change doubters
Tell them to put a plastic bag over their heads and see how long they can breathe their own carbon dioxide.

Note to self: remember to take bag off their heads soon after they pass out.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:11 AM
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7. Unless they are rethuglicans...
Just kidding...!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:13 AM
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10. If they're Republicans make sure you fart in the bag before you
put it over their head.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:11 AM
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8. Mass extinction is looking like a real possibility. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:12 AM
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9. Simple formula really
No trees, no oxygen. We tree huggers have known this for a while now. I first learned it in like 4th grade I think.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:43 AM
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13. I recall back in grade school, this was in the 1960's
one of my teachers told me, "all it takes is for the earth to increase globally 1 to 2 degrees and everything as we know it changes dramatically".

she was one hip teacher. Thank you Miss Starns were ever you are!
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:47 AM
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14. Trees are only one part of the equation.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 11:48 AM by saddlesore
There is more to oxygen production than just trees - plants, algae, grasses all play a role.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0607_040607_phytoplankton.html

At least as far as I can read...I am not trying to belittle the importance of trees, I am just trying to emphasize that there are other factors that play an important role in oxygen production and global climate change...it is a very complex problem and there is no single silver bullet solution.

However, I do like trees. I have two acres and over 100 trees. I may have to put a bubble over my two acres in the future...since I can not grow phytoplankton...;-)

Peace.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:04 PM
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15. I realize that I should have said no plants, no oxygen
you get the point though. Wish more people did.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:13 PM
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16. Me too, brother. Me too...
Peace.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:40 AM
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12. New Planet Earth! Now with 35% more CO2!!! oh wait...nt
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