Don't you get it? "Successful" American lifestyle = oppression of somebody, somewhere.

[Chimpy McCokespoon]

You can lie to yourself all you want. But you know this to be true. You live off the fat of an empire. You can at least have the common decency to admit it. If you continue to ignore this then you are a part of the problem.

[Blashyrkh]

1. Indeed. I don't think people wanna hear though.

[cigsandcoffee]

2. Couldn't you say the same of all success anywhere?

By proxy oppression of the lower classes is hardly an American trait alone. In fact, the lower classes in Europe aren't even allowed to dream of improving themselves. They're firmly cemented in place by rigid class structure.

[Throd]

3. Get over yourself

Shouldn't you be participating in an online circle jerk with Comrade Prariefire and Comrade Servethepeople at the It's Right To Rebel website?

My family and friends are in danger of losing everything in a fire.

[aquart]

11. We seem to be in the same mood for the same reasons.

I'm already drugged however. Just waiting for calm to take effect.

[KitchenWitch]

13. Count me in on that mood.

I do not think there are enough drugs in the world to calm me down right now.

[aquart]

23. Mine are alive and safe. Evacuated.

Trying to put the best face on things. But my sister is disabled and my BIL is about to be out of work, losing a house is too much change. And we won't know for days.

She loves that house. She loves her garden.

And I'm so far away I can't do anything. (Now I know how she felt on 9/11 with me in Manhattan.) I think I'm at the making deals with God stage.

[KitchenWitch]

The fire came within a mile of us last night.

And I am also making deals with God.

I am glad your family is safe. Mine is as well, since the fire has moved, but I will sleep with the TV on tonight, so I can catch any new reports, because the winds are unpredictable.

[Blashyrkh]

15. Get off the computer and go and be with them then.

It must be such a desperate situation that you can find time to log onto DU and post some drivel.

[KitchenWitch]

17. Unbelievable

I see YOU have a computer, so you MUST have some level of success...

[Blashyrkh]

39. Whatever.

I'm using an overclocked calculator and my greatest success was coming out of my mother the right way.

I don't appreciate being told I shouldn't discuss something because a handful of people are experiencing a personal crisis.

[Throd]

42. A handful? Are you high?

[KitchenWitch]

43. fuzzy math - close to a million have been evacuated in all of the fires here

I would like to see the algorithm for which a handful = a million.

[Blashyrkh]

56. The handful refers to the number of posters in this thread, not the numbers of evacuations.

[Blashyrkh]

45. So, what's the appropriate number of people in crisis before I can speak my mind?

Can I mention all the people that I know who are suffering and use them to silence debate on issues that I don't like?

[Der Blaue Engel]

50. Try checking your conscience

If you have one.

[Blashyrkh]

54. My conscience is saying that allowing myself to be intimidated into silence is a bad thing.

The point in the OP stands.

[incapsulated]

58. The OP started out

In another thread saying people on DU were "dancing on the backs of the oppressed" and went on to make remarks about how well-off a certain DU'er was based on some photos, who was in the path of the fires.

He was a troll then, a troll here, and now, officially a troll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Blashyrkh]

60. Thank you for providing some context. Something sorely lacking these days.

I apologise for reacting as if the sudden appearance of an angry mob was brought about solely by the content of this OP. I was not aware of his history.

[incapsulated]

65. no problem

I figured you came in on a story in progress.

[Der Blaue Engel]

63. "It must be such a desperate situation that you can find time to log onto DU and post some drivel."

My conscience is saying:

Being rebuked for cruel, nasty statements to people in harm's way is hardly tantamount to "being silenced."

[Blashyrkh]

70. Well it did mention "comrade" twice in 5 words.

There are more constructive things to do than sit on a computer and turn yourself insane with worry.

[Throd]

73. I was referencing a Maoist website

where they espouse an opinion similar to that of the OP and refer to each other as "comrade".

I don't care much for extremists, be they religious or political, left or right.

[AZBlue]

21. Don't feed the _______

Check out the avatar and the comments...definitely a little person that rhymes with roll.

Sorry to hear about your friends and family - I hope everyone is safe and they remain untouched by this disaster.

[Blashyrkh]

40. I don't appreciate being called a troll for defending my point of view.

Consider yourself alerted.

[AZBlue]

44. WTF are you talking about?

I wasn't referring to you nor did I even see the post(s) you think I was responding to. If you follow that little dotted line up, I'm responding to someone who responded to the OP. So, unless you're the OP and you have two accounts here on DU, back off!

Consider yourself alerted: not everything is about you.

[Blashyrkh]

55. Fair deal all round then.

As I agreed with the OP, and you responded to a post attacking the OP, I didn't think you made a distinction between the poster and the idea at hand.

[AZBlue]

59. I definitely do make a distinction.

I don't mind that I disagree with the OP - that's fine by me, we're all open to our own opinions. No, there are various reasons I believe that particular poster to be a troll that are separate from what they posted.

[Blashyrkh]

61. Which I would have liked to have known before I set foot in this thread.

[KitchenWitch]

67. Stick around awhile, you will be able to spot them a mile away after awhile.

Most of the new trolls around here are sockpuppets of old trolls around here.

[uppityperson]

64. You did notice that the OP has been banned, right?

Troll was banned, so saying this poster rhymed with roll was accurate, so wtf are you getting on about?

Hint, if you donate, even $5, you get a star and can search posts by another poster and check for yourself how they are.

[Blashyrkh]

72. There is nothing in this thread that indicates the OP is banned, so no, I didn't.

Hint: I don't take suggestions that come with donations. Thanks anyway though.

[DBoon]

24. Is the the People's LIberation Army of Palestine?

or the Palestinian People's Liberation Army

or has someone just joined their local cell of the marxist leninist people's democratic revolutionary front at their local university's sociology department?

[whoneedstickets]

4. The only solution is mass suicide....

....you go first.

[KitchenWitch]

7. *snort*

[Chimpy McCokespoon]

16. How "progressive" of you..

Advocating the death of another human being.

[KitchenWitch]

18. You know what?

Bite my muthafucking lily white ass. Go fuck yourself. Piss up a rope.

I have spent the day protecting my family and my home and I have NO FUCKING patience left for your kind of bullshit.

[Chimpy McCokespoon]

25. Yet you find time to post on the internet.

[KitchenWitch]

28. The fire MOVED AWAY from my neighborhood.

Not that I should have to explain this to anyone at all.

I am taking a much needed respite from the stresses of the last 36 hours. You should try it sometime.

[incapsulated]

19. The virtual death of a troll..

Is no great tragedy.

[AZBlue]

29. I agree

[whoneedstickets]

22. It was only a helpful suggestion..

You posit an unsolvable problem and I offer a ludicrous solution.

Aside from turning back the clock to the 1800s, reducing the US population by a factor of 10 and living like the Amish, every aspect of American society involves someone someplace being exploited. We can work to alleviate this injustice; it will never be eliminated.

[ecstatic]

5. A lot of successful Americans provide hundreds of jobs

at decent payrates to many Americans. So I don't think your conclusion is too valid.

[Marrah_G]

6. I hope you live in a cave, scavenging the ground for food

Oh wait..... you are posting on a COMPUTER.... Is it a thought powered computer you created out of trash you found while scrubbing the world of the evil house-dwellers?

Get over yourself.

Welcome to ignore.

Your "concern" is duly noted by many here, I am sure.

[porphyrian]

8. It may be true today, but it doesn't have to continue to be true.

Capitalism doesn't necessitate victimization and exploitation, and the current concept of success isn't a measure set in stone.

[aquart]

9. I do admit it. So?

I KNOW I'm better off than anyone in a rice paddy or any woman in most countries or a child in the Thai sex industry or the sugar cane fields.

I'm intensely grateful for it. You, it seems, are not.

I've had a hard day and I'm not one bit inclined to give an ear to a self-righteous breast beater. Deed your property and possessions right now to any of those we've wronged and sleep well.

[Rhythm and Blue]

10. So sell your computer already.

Keyboard Saints are almost as irritating as Keyboard Commandos.

[DBoon]

36. No, donate your computer to the Revolutionary Communist Party!

[Rhythm and Blue]

38. LOL, those guys. I remember reading their newsletters while eating lunch

back when I was a first year. Just nuts.

[incapsulated]

12. Oy vey.

[democracyindanger]

14. I agree.

Plus, being a failure is soooo much easier to do.

[DS1]

20. figure this out

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Rhythm and Blue]

30. It's over! nt

[uppityperson]

33. thanks for the notice, that was a bit much.

[uppityperson]

26. delete, don 't feed the trolls

[lvx35]

31. There is truth and a problem in what you are saying too...

Its true that it is that way to some extent, but I don't think its true that it has to be that way. I think the world could be living in decent comfort without moral loss.

[AlCzervik]

32. oh dear you disrupted poorly.

[KitchenWitch]

35. Thought I smelled pizza...

[AlCzervik]

37. he threw himself into the volcano on behalf of all the people he's "Getting fat" off.

[KitchenWitch]

41. awfully charitable of him.

I am sure he is crowing about it at one of the sites that cannot be named.

[walldude]

47. I don't get the pizza reference... A little help?

I'm having a go at this sanctimonious twerp on another thread, I figured he was a troll but what's with the pizza thing?

[LeftCoast]

48. Tombstone is a brand of pizza and this fellow has one

[AlCzervik]

49. tomsbtone---like the brand of pizza.

[walldude]

52. LOL yeah I was coming back in to say I figured it out..

after I saw he got Tombstoned the light bulb went off... Thanks!

[KitchenWitch]

51. Tombstone Pizza.

[DBoon]

34. Comrade Avakian! I salute you!

[LeftCoast]

46. Nice tombstone

LOL

[KitchenWitch]

53. That particular shade of granite is quite stately!

[LeftCoast]

57. Someone gave up a nice kitchen counter for that troll

I hope he appreciates it.

[KitchenWitch]

62. I am afraid I gave up the nice kitchen counter for him

I have the old circa 1977 3x3 tile and grout counter top.

I must remedy that, soon!

[LeftCoast]

66. You know. That's what I love about DUers.

We just give and give. No thanks needed. We just give out of the goodness of our hearts!

Just know, your sacrifice was appreciated!

heehee

[KitchenWitch]

68. I SO needed that laugh!

Thanks, dude!

I think the smoke down here is affecting my brain.

[LeftCoast]

69. I'm glad I could bring a smile to you

Stay safe!

[KitchenWitch]

71. I promise I will

[Indi Guy]

74. I know it was a close call for you, and the threat is not over yet. I have two words for you.

"Serenity now!" (at least until Festivus)

[JTFrog]

75. I was going to rant to this until I saw the TS.

That made me feel better all in itself.

[muriel_volestrangler]

76. Locking

The thread starter is no longer with us.