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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:54 PM
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Huge brush fire near proposed site of Blackwater facility, San Diego County
It's not clear at this time exactly where the fire has spread to. But it started within a couple of miles of the property that Blackwater wants to build "Blackwater West" at. The decision to allow Blackwater to build there has still not yet made by the San Diego County Board of Supervisors, but Blackwater has been pushing hard for it - and now this. Maybe the knowlege that southern California is extremely fire-prone will scare Blackwater away from building here?

Story at: http://www.10news.com/news/14388572/detail.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:58 PM
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1. Nah, they'll just remove the brush and make tarmac out of it all.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:01 PM
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2. At least maybe this will give the County Board of Supervisors a reason to
reject Blackwater - maybe that some of Blackwater's activities could present a fire risk. The property that Blackwater wants used to be a cow and chicken farm.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 AM
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18. LBN report that seems to confirm your idea here:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:04 PM
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3. Holy cow! Is everyone okay?
Crossing everything for my neighbors to the south. :(
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:09 PM
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5. 1 person dead, 4 firefighters burned as a fire passed over their van.
They survived and were taken to the burn unit of a hospital here. There is also another fire near Ramona, CA, and the Santa Ana winds are predicted to blow again tomorrow. The news is saying these fires have the potential to become as large and serious as the Cedar Fire of October 2003. That one was a cataclysm which burned 280,278 acres, destroyed 2,820 buildings (including 2,232 homes) and killed 15 people including one firefighter. It doesn't seem like the fires today are going to become that big, but if they aren't controlled and the winds keep blowing, they will just get bigger.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:09 PM
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4. Or maybe Blackwater figured this was the cheapest way to clear brush off their land. n/t
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:10 PM
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6. I didn't think of that... But I wouldn't put it past them. The fire started very near
the location they want to build on. The first thing I thought was that someone opposed to Blackwater started the fire, as a way of ruining the site and/or scaring Blackwater away. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was revealed Blackwater had a hand in it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:13 PM
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8. No, everyone knows that's not how you prevent people from moving into a site.
What you have to do is create a ghost or a monster that supposedly haunts the place, and hope that those meddling kids and that pesky dog don't show-up.



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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:16 PM
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10. Well, they still have to convince the Board of Supervisors,
so I guess they'll have to wine and dine Ron Roberts, Greg Cox, Dianne Jacobs, etc. a little longer...
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:14 PM
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9. Exactly. Nothing is beneath the Blackwater terrorists. n/t
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:17 PM
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11. I think if they did it, maybe they were trying to clear out the "opposition"
in other words, burn the whole area to get rid of the residents who oppose them moving in.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:26 PM
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14. Never occurred to me and I think you're right.
Nothing is beneath them.
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:12 PM
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7. that's not a good thing
it just saves them $$$ in clearing the place to construct a facility.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:19 PM
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12. God's warning to Blackwater?
Build your facility and I'll burn it down.. just like THIS!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:29 PM
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16. That's how I would like to view it.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:20 PM
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13. Is the property owned by Blackwater? And insured?
Hell, perhaps they need a cash injection - straight from the insurance? Would not put ANYTHING past that group. Just think of all the pent-up rage from being booted from Iraq. No more civilians to shoot... :shrug:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:29 PM
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15. The last I heard, the property is still in escrow
As far as I know, Blackwater hasn't completely taken the title to the property yet, and hasn't gotten approval from the County Board of Supervisors to build there. But that didn't stop Blackwater VP Brian Bonfiglio from preventing protesters from stepping onto the property recently. Here's an article about the protests a couple of weeks ago:

http://sdcitybeat.com/cms/story/detail/?id=6234&menu=St...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:38 PM
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17. Here are 2 views of the property:
It's not clear at this time whether the property was touched by the fire or not. We'll probably know tomorrow.




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