The stupidest thing I ever said

[DeeDeeNY]

In 2000, after * got into office, I actually said "This is tough, but after all, how much damage could he do in 4 years?"
I am totally humbled!!!

:cry:

[aquart]

1. Oh, that was you, was it?

It pissed me off then, and it pisses me off now. But I guess, now, you know.

What I said, at the time, was "Americans will die because of this decision." I was told I was being "melodramatic."

[dkofos]

2. You should have paid more attention to what he did to Tx. in the

6 years he was Gov. FUBAR

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. No kidding! We all knew what he was capable of and more.

[Fovea]

20. I think that we all knew that Texas had gone feral

but I believed that the federal system was above that.
After all, we still had the weakened, but living bill of rights.

Then Sept. 11th and the enabling act. I had a stroke and two heart attacks in June of that year,
and by the time I regained enough cognizance, it was already on its way down.
I know that I am fucked up. I lost a walnut sized hunk of my brain. But I have gone over this so many times, I feel that this is not just my pathology.

Ok, I can';t feel the right side of my body, so much for retiring to be a lutenist. I have a host of other probl;ems from the stroke. And I don't trust my brain anymore. I have nearly uncontrollable diabetes taking five shots of insulin per day, and take 3 diff anti hypertensives. The stroke nearly killed me. THe day of the stroke was the first I knew about the diabetes and hypertension. I don't expect to make 65. I spend a lot of money on meds.

Make of this what you will. 3 months before the stroke, I wrote a memo for my former employer-- a fortune 500 software house suggesting that we attempt to specify into what became HAVA, a set of java-like standards for electronic voting systems. I advised that the GSA should own the standard, but that we help write and implement it.

I knew the history of election fraud in my home town. I was quite concerned that a database driven system would require a level of security equal or superior to the financial systems we did for our major banking client. You may bank with them. I wanted my company to have the sort of advantage with HAVA that Sun had with Java. So I am not an innocent party. But I believed that we could do good by America, and make a lot of money.

My super two levels up killed it. He was a new hire, and a before that, a motivational consultant. I will let you guess his political affiliation. Three months later, two months before 911, I had a very bad day indeed.

In light of the ESS, Diebold, and SAIC shit we got, and a non-precedent carrying SCOTUS decision, I cannot accept simple incompetence and greed as an explanation for half a decade of bad elections. I am convinced that an American coup has taken place. There is no bill of rights without habeas corpus. There is no habeas corpus.

So if I have a big ass tinfoil hat, at least you now know how it got there.

[yardwork]

23. A lot of people agree with you, including Gore Vidal.

I'm sorry for your troubles. I hope that you get better - seriously. Many people recover very well from strokes, and you have what it takes. You are tough and smart.

DU hugs to you.

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. I can definitely vouch for your sincerity and integrity

and you know I wish you the best. You do seem to stay on top of your physical condition. :hug:

[riqster]

3. You were far from alone

...the fact that you are feeling humbled puts you head and shoulders above millions of others.
:hug:

[classof56]

5. I didn't say that, but knew plenty who shared your opinion.

I hoped and prayed like crazy that you were right. Even I couldn't imagine how much damage he could do. Now we have to continue to band together to get our country back. Kudos to you for helping in the fight!

[DeeDeeNY]

9. It's not that I wasn't angry

I was extremely upset at the time, but I guess I honestly couldn't imagine back then the extent of how much damage he could do. Even now, it still boggles many peoples' minds to understand that there could be such a mixture of incompetence, cronyism, greed and evil in one administration.

[unpossibles]

6. I'm more or less there with you

I knew he'd be a fuckup,but I was incapable of imagining the scale. I should have known, because I could not stand his old man, and knew the guy was a grade-A crook.

DICK Cheney was a stealth agent too - I knew the name as he's been around for a while, but I knew nothing of the existence of things like the PNAC and had no idea of what he was capable of. It's opened my eyes.

[Beerboy]

7. OK, but why look back to the past?

You voted, you did the best you could. This isn't about us or 'We the People' anyway, it's about how much money and rights/oversight they can strip from us as fast as they can.
Why should you feel humbled? He was made pResident by 5 Supreme Court judges, it's not like our vote really counts for anything. Now, if I could only figure out how to get 5 judges to pay what the IRS says I owe them. To keep a semblance of representation in government, the courts should directly levy the taxes.
It's all fucking bullshit, our votes count for less than nothing to the pampered swine who rule over us.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. I said that the American people weren't stupid enough to elect Reagan.

They then proceeded to prove me wrong twice. And, then compounded it, twice, by voting in the excrement now polluting the White House.

[DeeDeeNY]

11. Um, I don't think he was actually voted in.

[riqster]

12. Keep reminding people of that!

Bush is in the Oval Office illegally. People need to realize that neither Kerry not Gore lost, and that the system is corrupt.

[liberal N proud]

10. This was I remember and honestly felt

[NMMNG]

13. ....

:spank:

[MuseRider]

14. My husband said that too.

He asked me "How bad can it be?" He wondered why I was spending my days between Nov. 5th and the selection laying on the couch watching CNN, CSpan, MSNBC, well anything with news about Bush/Gore. "Why are you cussing and moaning so much, it can't be that bad." Well, my brother lived in Texas and had been acutely aware of Bush** and what he was like. Not only did I see what was happening and feared for my country I had that additional insight.

Yup, my husband slaps himself upside the head when we talk about it. He actually has to admit that I was right! :(

[Fovea]

15. The night of the election

I was in Montreal, working with, helping a large group of multi national developers work on a software suite I can now talk about, but that is not really the point.

The next morning, as I entered the room, the folks from Canada, Hong Kong, Israel, and parts of the EU all looked at me in shock and horror. I told them, "Don't worry, the US is a stable democracy, with laws in place to deal with problems like this. If my man Gore won Florida, we will know soon enough."

It was not a stupid thing to say, based on historical considerations, but it sure seems that way now.
I have friends online from Canada, NZ, Netherlands, and France. They know where my politics are, and they are sympathetic. But most of them are frightened of what we have become, and one or two think we are going to destroy the world before we regain our sanity.

As one of my friends from Vlissingen asked me-- "When someone in the US loses their mind, don't you make sure they can;t get hold of a weapon?"

[adadem]

16. I said something similar

Never, ever did I believe it would get this bad.

What I did not realize was how ver dangerous Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice were to the world. I thought having Colin Powell there as a voice of reason would keep them in line. How wrong I was. :mad:

[Bigmack]

17. I was mad after 2000...

... but I figured Dumbya would fuck the country in a generalized, Republican sort of way.

The grand, royal, multidisciplinary, fucking that we got far surpassed anything I'd dreamed of.

[never_get_over_it]

18. Well along that same line

in December 2000 I imagined all the awful things that would happen under a * admin - what I learned in the past seven years is I have a REALLY BAD IMAGINATION - in my wildest imaginings I didn't even come close to how awful it truly has been....

[Fovea]

19. k&R

[yardwork]

21. I had no idea it would be this bad.

I knew it would be bad, but I had no idea of the depths of the Bush family's depravity at the time. Now we know.

[The Straight Story]

22. "I DO!" at the altar with my first wife

:rofl:

[UTUSN]

24. Don't feel bad. Even we who KNEW he would be a disaster didn't know how MUCH of a disaster!!1 n/t

[EFerrari]

25. I hear you. When I heard they were running him, I laughed.

:blush:

[monmouth]

26. I remember calling him "dangerous" and people looked at me and shook their heads...HA!

[Tsiyu]

28. Don't feel bad

i said the same thing

too caught up in my own personal disasters at the time to pay attention to that impending disaster

but this has taught me to keep paying attention to politics

I gave it up for a while because it was exhausting being a liberal back then. But Clinton was still in office so I grew complacent, too


Never again....:cry: