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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:15 PM
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King Middle School and Birth Control: Please read this
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 05:23 PM by FLDem5
This does not sound like your standard generic "nurses office" that most schools have. This is a community health center run by the state for students. If you go through their website and look at their handouts, it seems to be much, much more than a nurses office handing out packets of pills.

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=140910&a...

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The city's Division of Public Health, which made the birth- control proposal, operates seven health centers in Portland Public Schools in an effort to increase access to physical, dental and mental health care.

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There are 27 school-based health centers in Maine, 20 of which are funded and overseen by the state, including those in Portland, Birkhimer said.

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Contraception would be prescribed after a physical examination by a physician or nurse practitioner, Belanger said.

King is the only one of Portland's three middle schools with a health center, primarily because it has more students who get free or reduced-price lunch, Belanger said.


Also, Middle Schools have 13-14 year olds attending them, not just 11 year-olds. Skewing the rhetoric to the extreme isn't the best argument, imho.








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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:15 PM
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1. We have a school-based health clinic in my school
but we don't hand out birth control.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:18 PM
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2. but Maine's tradition was to have birth control available at their clinics
this Middle School added the pill to the other forms they had available.

I wish it wasn't necessary, but I can't get all outraged about it. I had friends in Middle School who had sex.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:28 PM
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7. I teach 11 year olds
Having sex is not very common at that age.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:29 PM
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10. how about 13 year olds?
14 year olds?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:32 PM
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21. We go to 6th grade
So we do have some 12 year olds. Probably even a few 13 year olds.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:30 PM
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12. 11 year olds are not the only ones in a Middle School.
My daughter was 14 years old in Middle School - and there are those held back who might be older.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:19 PM
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3. My son's high school hands out condoms
Thank God.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:28 PM
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8. That's good
Our school is an elementary school. We don't pass out condoms.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:30 PM
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13. that's nice
this story is about a middle school
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:31 PM
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15. We have 11 year olds in my school.
The story says the kids at this middle school are also 11 year olds.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:32 PM
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20. there is a range of ages at the middle school
amazing isn't it?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:35 PM
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25. Some are but not all.
My son's middle school started at 5th grade (age 11-12) and went up to 8th grade (age 13-14)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:47 PM
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29. I really don't have a problem with birth control at high schools.
Middle school is different. Seems a bit young.

My school is elementary. We added 6th grade this year and are adding 7th next year and 8th the following year. So we will be a pre-K through 8th grade school. And we have a health clinic. It will be interesting to see if this birth control issue is something we have to deal with.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:09 PM
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32. Well, kids are getting their periods at earlier ages.
And if this prevents an 11 yr old from going through that hell, then I'm all for it.

My son's "middle school" (11 to 14 yr olds) was moved into the HS but on a closed floor.

They still had 5th through 8th there though. I think this is smart actually.

If they're getting their periods, they should be able to protect themselves.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:00 PM
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33. And they are getting their periods earlier these days
That is true.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:04 PM
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31. Congratulations? n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:21 PM
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4. perhaps you should...
depending on what your teen pregnancy rate looks like.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:29 PM
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11. It's an elementary school
No pregnancies.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:33 PM
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22. Things like this need to be evidence based
if there's no indication of a problem or potential problem- then there's probably no need for a controversial solution.

Seems a simple enough matter to me.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:26 PM
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6. why not?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:30 PM
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14. Should we start in kindergarten?
Or maybe the pre-school classes?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:31 PM
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16. are kindergarteners entering puberty these days?
I should hope not
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:32 PM
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18. Not that I am aware of.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:36 PM
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27. Sex education? YES! ~~ BC? No!
Preschoolers don't get their periods.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:21 PM
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5. Better Birth Control than unwanted pregnancies and/or STD's n/t
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:29 PM
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9. Maine has one of the lowest teen-pregnancy rates in nation
A fact which makes me proud.

Students must get parents' okay to be seen by health care provider, by the way. But once the parents give their okay, what happens next is private between student and provider, from what I understand.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:32 PM
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19. that seems to square with the article - they need parental permission to be seen
in the clinic, then the student can choose to keep the pills on the qt.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:33 PM
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23. That is how the clinic at my school works too
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:31 PM
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17. Good post, thank you.
So hypothetically an 11-year-old could access pills, but in practice the likelihood is small and probably won't change.

I don't see what's to get excited about. I took pills as a young teen myself, and had my first baby at 36.

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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:34 PM
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24. People act as if young children having sex is something new.
I am over 70 and can remember kids in my elementary school having sex. It was a very poor neighborhood which may have had something to do with the situation. Of course back then some girls married at 14 and it was socially acceptable. Well maybe those were called shotgun weddings.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:35 PM
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26. my mother-in-law was married at 15 and had her first child at 16!
with parental permission, of course.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:44 PM
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28. The difference between then and now is that now they do not
get married.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:54 PM
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30. you are so right - they got married because of the war -
they wanted to have sex before he went off.

Nowadays, they just go ahead and have sex.
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