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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:13 PM
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Nancy Pelosi: Traitor, bitch, fuck her
What is wrong with you if you're using language like that about Pelosi?

Seriously, this is just rank. And shameful.

One word of mild criticism about certain people meets with howls of indignation, but trashing Pelosi? Doesn't seem to be a problem.

It's one thing to be disappointed and to express it, but Nancy Pelosi is not a traitor. And calling her a bitch or saying fuck pelosi, is just grotesque.

She's a liberal. She's long been a liberal. Her voting record is a good one. And though I'm disappointed in some of her actions and her failure to take action, I recognize that she has what must be, the hardest fucking job in the country. And that none of us here can fully understand all the byzantine twists and turns of her job. And that goes for 99% of the outside "expert" commentators too.

Oh, yeah. She's also a human being, and if any of her staff ever lurks here, I send my deepest apologies.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:15 PM
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1. Oh yeah... they should feel a lot better...
And they will no doubt ignore everything because YOU apologized...


Geez
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:36 PM
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53. Posts like that pointed out by the OP are as manipulative as any RW rag.
My question: why? Why attack those clearly on the liberal side of the scale rather than the effers responsible for killing this nation?

Why?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:15 PM
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2. Nancy Pelosi: Knows which side her bread is buttered
Is that better?

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:17 PM
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8. Yes, that's much better.
And it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:16 PM
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3. People who say things like that are delusional idiots
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:28 PM by KingFlorez
They have no clue how the government works and no grasp on reality. It's best just to ignore them, because they aren't intelligent or sane enough to discuss the issues.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:18 PM
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12. How does the government work?
Does it complain about crimes committed by Chimps only to give the Chimps more power to commit crimes?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:20 PM
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15. by voting????? you are not familiar with basic civics???
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:22 PM
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19. Voting for what? More power for the Chimps?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:26 PM
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24. voting for bills that are voted to move on from Committees
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:27 PM by LSK
Why are you not familiar with the basics of the legislative process?

:shrug:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:29 PM
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32. Wait a minute. Are you telling me that you are buying into the Pelosi lies
that she has little control over which bills come to the floor?

Here's your wakeup call: She's lying her ass off!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:35 PM
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52. And you know this how? Are you someone who knows...
more about how Congress works than my own Congressman?

There have been quite a few reforms over the years and, starting with Tip O'Neill, Speakers have had far less power than they had in the past. Besides, the present Democratic Party is far more divided over many issues than the Republicans were when they ran things.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:37 PM
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57. I am informed. I am someone who knows.
I don't know who your Congressman is, but if he's telling you that Pelosi does not have control over which bills come to the floor, he's lying his ass off, just like Nancy.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:43 PM
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109. here is my source, WHAT IS YOURS?
"In the House of Representatives, it is no longer the custom to read bills--even by title--at the time of introduction. The title is entered in the Journal and printed in the Congressional Record, thus preserving the purpose of the custom. The bill is assigned its legislative number by the Clerk. The bill is then referred as required by the rules of the House to the appropriate committee or committees by the Speaker, the Member elected by the Members to be the Presiding Officer of the House, with the assistance of the Parliamentarian. The bill number and committee referral appear in the next issue of the Congressional Record. It is then sent to the Government Printing Office where it is printed in its introduced form and printed copies are made available in the document rooms of both Houses. Printed and electronic versions of the bill are also made available to the public.

Copies of the bill are sent to the office of the chairman of the committee to which it has been referred. The clerk of the committee enters it on the committee's Legislative Calendar.

Perhaps the most important phase of the legislative process is the action by committees. The committees provide the most intensive consideration to a proposed measure as well as the forum where the public is given their opportunity to be heard. A tremendous volume of work, often overlooked by the public, is done by the Members in this phase. There are, at present, 19 standing committees in the House and 16 in the Senate as well as several select committees. In addition, there are four standing joint committees of the two Houses, with oversight responsibilities but no legislative jurisdiction. The House may also create select committees or task forces to study specific issues and report on them to the House. A task force may be established formally through a resolution passed by the House or informally through organization of interested Members by the House leadership."

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.bysec/introtocomm.h...
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:52 PM
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116. Great. Now you know how bills get to committees.
What if you were to post something pertinent to the conversation?
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #24
81. who do you think is bringing those bills to the floor for a vote?
A) Pelosi
B) Pelosi
C) Pelosi
D) All of the above

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #81
104. what does Steny Hoyer do?
:shrug:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
29. Blah, blah, blah
How have they given him more power? Everyone already know he's never sought permission or even followed the law, he just does what he wants to do, it not Pelosi's fault.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:31 PM
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38. Here's how: Pelosi managed to turn Bush's crimes into legislation.
She retroactively made it legal for the Chimp to ignore the FISA laws.

I'm glad I had a chance to explain this for you.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:41 PM
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64. You're kidding, right?
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #3
26. If you are going to call people idiots,
at least write a coherent sentence..

"People are say things like that are delusional idiots"
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #26
33. I made a typing mistake, big deal!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:32 PM
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No, you made a horrible mistake...
Calling names is horrible. Your views are not going to be heard if you do that.
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leftist_not_liberal Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:10 PM
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83. What's horrible about some ad hominem?
A spade is a spade.

It is not lost on me that the only town where the word 'liar' is not used is the one most fuckin' full of them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #3
39. Thanks... You've helped me make a decision...
I'm going to start using ignore... I hate to do it, but in this heated primary time, I feel I must.

From here on out, anyone who calls another names goes on my ignore list... you are the first. Many thanks for the assist though.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:48 PM
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72. really? I know what thread this comes from and frankly, I am SICK
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:51 PM by roguevalley
of being patronized. I have skin in the game. I am ENTITLED to my opinion and expressing it even if I didn't. If you don't like what I say, ignore me. Don't tell me what to think or believe. Everyday I wait for the news. Everyday that goes by without news of Hannah is a good day. Be me for a while and you will know why Pelosi is a bastard for not forcing this through. They did it in the old days, pushing and pushing until the weak ones caved and joined them. 70-80% of the ENTIRE COUNTRY is behind this and she still sits on her ass and spins. Don't patronize me on this issue. I actually have something to lose. Most of you don't. THat is what is fucking wrong with this war. MOST OF US having NOTHING TO LOSE. If you did, you would think different. No one would be sacred then.

EDIT: this is for a post near the top. How it ended up down here, I don't know.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:31 PM
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101. Hear! Hear!
You are indeed entitled to your opinion, entitled to express that opinion, and entitled to do it here without the threat of being called names or condescended to in any way.

I'm so freaking sick of the condescention here I could just :puke:
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #72
118. Ignore the enablers
I try to, but there are so many.

"We must keep killing our soldiers in Iraq! It's the only sane thing to do!"

If our world lasts long enough for my grandchildren to exist, I wonder what they'll think of how we cheered fascism's rise and sold our souls for an illusion.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:16 PM
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4. IBTL
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:16 PM
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5. She continues to support the war.
The criticism is her own damn fault.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:17 PM
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7. She does not support the war
That's an outright lie to even say she does.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:18 PM
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10. No, it's an outright lie to say she doesn't.
She continues to push through funding bills.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:22 PM
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18. The truth is a little more complex than that and you know that
she has voted against them, but in the byzantine manouvers of the corridors of power, things are far more complex than many of us wish to even understand.

This is the equivalent of when people call troops mercs

and other examples I could come up with

I wish she knew how to hold some bills off the floor, but that is another story... and I wish they read some history and realized the paralells with other dark periods of world history.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. Mmm, no it's not.
She's trying to play both sides by bringing it up for votes and then voting against it. All that shows is how two-faced she is.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:28 PM
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #30
45. Much like your arrogance.... eom
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #30
80. consider this: Unless you have someone in the war, its all academic.
you have nothing to lose. NADA. You can talk all around this issue but until you have someone in the war, you have contributed NOTHING to this issue. NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY IS SACRIFICING A DAMNED THING. ITs all fucking academic, arguing about who is a good person and who isn't in relation to this issue. Until you have something to lose, you don't know. Webb is my hero. I may not always agree with him but he knows how I and everyone else who has people in this shit hole feel everyday. Pelosi is a FAILURE on this issue and she has made this war the dem's war. I will NEVER forgive her because everyday she dithers and fucks around someone's kid dies. I pray on my knees it isn't mine.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #80
91. Let me say I do have someone there and I agree completely with Cali.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. i accept that. but know this, my view is equally valid. anything less
is freerepublic.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #95
98. Yes your view is your view and you have every right to it
But expect people to stand up and call you on it when you call Pelosi nasty names.

We all want the same thing, we differ on how to get to that goal.

I hope your Hannah is okay and please speak up on DU if she needs any care/comfort packages.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #98
102. I find it very interesting that people are against calling Pelosi names...
Yet have no qualms about calling another DUer names. I'm so very tired of the condescension around here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #21
46. Yes it is... and by the way, there are more than just two sides
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:35 PM by nadinbrzezinski
in almost every issue they bring to the floor.

It astonishes me that she (and Reid) do not want to use all the tools in the quiver

But issues have more than just two sides to them.

Politics is dirty... and in the US House there are at least ten factions (just on the democratic side), and at least five in the Republican side.

Once you understand how this actually works, you will realize why it is far more complex than you think it is.

I will agree though that Nancy, and the rest of the leadership are still acting like a minority party a good part of the time... but she also has HER OWN people to herd and push and prod... as I said, factions.

In other countries they would be members of DIFFERENT parties... that is how divergent their interests are... oh and the same goes for the GOP
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. She doesn't push through the funding
There aren't enough votes to stop it from going through.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #20
77. then you bring it up the next day and the next and the next until
someone caves. that is how it is done. That is how it was done in the past and they won't do it because they are cowards. Period. How do you think viet nam ended?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
50. Hiya KIng!
:hi:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Starting off with a blatant
falsehood. She doesn't oppose the war in a manner that I wish she would, but you have NO evidence from anything she's said, or any vote she's cast that demonstrates that she supports it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. She continues to push through funding.
She says she wants a "new direction." Sounds like bullshit to me.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #13
23. How 'bout the fact that she actively participated in bringing forth the bill that is funding it...
with no strings attached. And then she lies about it.

Is this stuff really too complicated to understand?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
34. What bill would that be?
The Supplemental has not been brought forth yet. What swill you're tossing out.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
48. I'm talking about the last time she screwed us on Iraq. (Or the one before that.)
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:34 PM by BuyingThyme
I understand why you have trouble keeping up with her fuckups. I too wish is was easier.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
40. That's kind of a lie isn't it?
What you mean to say is "She fails to resist the war in the same way that I would," right?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:13 PM
Original message
No, I'm pretty sure he thinks what he said is the truth
From his point of view, mind you. But he thinks it's a truth
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:17 PM
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6. The vulgarity is less vulgar than the reality.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #6
22. What tripe. One actually has nothing to do with
the other. But feel free to make all the spurious connections you wish. Really, this is very simple.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. So, you don't understand that people call Nancy Pelosi names because
she is a devout enemy of our Constitution? Why is this so difficult to understand?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #25
36. A devout enemy of the constitution?
How is that?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. She hates the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution and is doing
everything she can to take it away from us. Then she lies about it and makes fools of her followers.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #25
37. Can I call you a name?
I think you're a devout enemy of the constitution. That's as nonsensical as your stinkin' horseshit. But hey, you like the flavor, eat up.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. It's all you can do because you can't deal with the facts.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #44
76. Bwahaha. coming from you that really is funny as hell
you're the one that kept misreading the constitution and INSISTING that Pelosi was obligated by it to impeach. And no matter how many people provided you with PROOF that that is not so, it didn't seem to be able to penetrate your impressive skull.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #76
79. Funny thing. I'm the only one who provided proof.
I even provided quotes from Johnathan Turley.

Funny thing how you project your shortcomings on me.

Again, the name-calling is all you have at this point.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. You provide zero proof and certainly not from Turley
and as you run around calling people who don't agree with you ignorant, you don't have a sq. inch of moral ground to perch on.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #82
93. Yep, I run around calling people ignorant and it's immoral
to hold people to their oaths to defend the Constitution.

Again, only words, no truth or substance.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
51. "A devout enemy of our Constitution?"
Would you listen to yourself? Are you claiming that she swore an oath to destroy the Constitution? Next you'll claim she was responsible for the invasion of Poland.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. *snicker*
and she's against motherhood and apple pie, too.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #51
60. Look, you can't pick and choose the stuff you like in the Constitution.
That's what Nancy does because she does not respect our system of government. This is not hyperbole; it's just a fact.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #60
66. You say that, and then you say it isn't hyperbole
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:44 PM by EstimatedProphet
Nancy Pelosi is actively breaking the rule of law set forth by the Constitution. Really. Not hyperbole, either. Really truly.

:rofl:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Yes, she is actively supporting a bill that she knows to be in direct
violation of the Constitution. And she did the same before the summer break.

Really. Truly.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:17 PM
Response to Original message
9. Freeper hate is not exclusively conservative.
Mostly it is.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:18 PM
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11. I agree. I too wish it were possible for Nancy to do the "impossible' but
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:18 PM by saracat
it isn't going to happen. I think she is doing what "CAN" be done under impossible circumstances.I find it interesting the few pay any attention to the good she has accomplished and concentrate only on what she is not able to do.I am very proud of Nancy being the highest elected woman in political office ever. For that and the fact that she opposed this war from the beginning, and is a true liberal, I respect her.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:21 PM
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16. Most people here would never ever have the guts to say that to Nancy's face
It seems that the anonymity here brings out the worst in people.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:42 PM
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65. Many people here will never have an opportunity to say that to Nancy's face
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 03:51 PM by BuyingThyme
because she is a coward who is actively hiding from her constituents in an effort to avoid facing up to all of the damage she had done to them.

Truth rules.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. "Truth" as YOU see it.
"...actively hiding from her costituents..." ???



:rofl:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #70
78. Yes, it has been well over a year and a half since Nancy Pelosi has
met with her constituents.

I'm glad to help you with this stuff, but the rofls only make you look silly.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:16 PM
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89. Well, if YOU are one of her constituents, just contact her
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html


Email Congresswoman Pelosi

Congresswoman Pelosi wants to hear from you. You can email her at sf.nancy@mail.house.gov, or by using the form below. Please note that the rules of Congressional courtesy prevent Rep. Pelosi from replying to emails if she cannot determine that you are a constituent, so remember to include your full name, address, and zip code.

If you are not a constituent of the 8th district of California, and would like to e-mail Congresswoman Pelosi in her role as Speaker of the House, please email her at AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov or click here for a contact form.

--------------------


I am sure that she has the time to meet with each and every single constituent.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:20 PM
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94. I've contacted her many times. That's why she no longer holds
townhall-type meetings. She is a coward.

But thanks for the info.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:21 PM
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17. Thank you Cali... Sometimes it is worse then freeperville here.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:27 PM
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27. Recommending
you go cali! You too Speaker Pelosi
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:27 PM
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28. Thank you, Cali.

Civility is a becoming rare around here.




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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:28 PM
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31. K & R from me. Thanks Cali. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:30 PM
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35. In my opinion she is a failure.
She has a majority in the House of Representatives. That majority has not defended the constitution and the rule of law. That majority has given the administration even more power to abuse that is not granted it by the constitution. That majority has paid for an escalation of hostilities in Iraq. I do not use such language in describing her. I cannot be shamed because shame does not lie with me.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #35
42. Then this isn't addressed to you.
There. That wasn't too hard to figure out, was it?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:50 PM
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73. Does that mean I can't comment?
Or disclaim the language?
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:32 PM
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43. We as a people no longer know how to communicate.
Democracy be damned.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:34 PM
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47. there will always be vulgar ones, cali
ignore them.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:34 PM
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49. LEAVE NANCY ALONE!!!!!111


SHE'S A HUMAN!!!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:39 PM
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59. yawn. I expect better of you
that's just a litte overworked. And seeing as I suspect you'd be one of the ones howling if someone called Cindy Sheehan a bitch, cow, whatever, your facile little tweak, is particularly funny.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:51 PM
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74. I'm detecting a pattern here, and a propensity for strawmen
There's a thread on the greatest page that says Pelosi has betrayed us. Is what prompted yet another post on language?

Lumping in misogynist epithets with genuine expressions of outrage undermines your premise. There's a difference between calling a woman a "bitch" and calling her a traitor. One is hateful, unsupportable sexism while the other may be grounded in fact. Saying "fuck her" may be coarse, but that sentiment has been directed at many pols, male and female.

I would object to any woman being called a bitch or a cow, but I would argue with someone who called Cindy a traitor. What I would not do is post an independent thread saying that such things don't belong on DU.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #74
99. No. This post was inspired
by seeing Pelosi called a cow and a bitch and a whore, over a period of time, though there is a current thread about Pelosi/Sheehan in which she's called a lot of these.

And I think Sheehan IS against (I hate the word traitor) many of the liberal principle I hold dear. In fact, I think she's also quite ignorant about world affairs.

And bully for you for not starting a thread. No, you'll only start sneering threads about Kerry. Puleeze.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:52 PM
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115. More straw men and non sequitors
You keep bringing up "bitch" as if the other harsh criticisms of Pelosi are somehow equivalent. Let me put it another way: do you really think calling a woman a "bitch" is as acceptable as criticizing her politics? If you don't, then please quit implying that there's an equivalence there.

Bringing up my so-called "sneering" posts about Kerry is a cheap attempt to change the subject. Whatever posts I've made about Kerry, I've never started a thread with the intention of broad-brushing all who disagree with me -- which is what I think you're doing in this case.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:37 PM
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55. How about "quisling worm?"
There, now I'm not being sexist.

How about if Pelosi doesn't want to be called names and demonized by her own party, maybe she should start acting in a way that promotes our interests - killing unconstitutional liberty-destroying legislation, taking a hard stance on the Iraq War, etc.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:41 PM
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62. quisling worm=traitor
and it's such bullshit hyperbole anyway.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #62
75. If the name fits...
She betrayed the Democratic party and the Constitution, so yeah, I'm calling her traitor.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #75
85. and I'm calling
you a liar. but hey, if it fits.....
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:37 PM
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56. Cali
I agree 100% with your assessment, but please don't post threads with titles like this.

A lot of people just look at the title and don't go any further and don't know the point you're trying to make.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:40 PM
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61. Sorry, I didn't even think of that. n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:38 PM
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58.  Yeah, not exactly what one expects from "the good guys".
k&r
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:41 PM
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63. Keyboard Commandoes suck.
Those who seem to scream the loudest often seem to know the least. Funny how that works.

K&R Cali. :toast:

Julie
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:44 PM
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67. Agreed, and I've been saying all along that...
there's a contingent here that, for whatever reasons, is more interested in railing against our own than against the opposition.

They think that the slim majority in the House gives them some ability to get every one of their wishes immediately. Pelosi can just wave her magic wand and everything will be OK-- Shrub and Cheney gone and the war ended.

Childish, venal, ignorant, disruptive, and nonproductive.



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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:47 PM
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69. Isn't Nancy Pelosi the woman that Hillary haters wanted so badly
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 04:01 PM by Tactical Progressive
to be able to vote for as President? Now she's on their shit lists. My, my, my. Such a fickle bunch, those DHLs are. I question whether they even know what they themselves think.

Let's not forget, Dem-Hating-Leftists pegged Al Gore as the "Republicrat" corporate whore that was just another version of Bush and Cheney, who they then helped usher into office for most of a decade. >>> Try to measure the level of political acumen that that represents. <<< Now Gore is their hero, who needs to be drafted post-haste to save the Republic. Is it any wonder that Al doesn't trust DHL support for as far as he could throw one?

Why would any reasonable progressive politician listen to a single word these people utter?
Thankfully, Hillary Clinton is alot smarter than that.

Nancy Pelosi ought to feel gratified at being called such names by this crowd.
I'm already thinking she must be doing a better job than I'd previously believed.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:48 PM
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71. "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times ..."
That quote is not meant to be a contradiction, but ultimately a statement on hyperbole. Being Speaker is probably a tough job, but not "the hardest fu$%ing job in the country". That would probably still be coal mining. The average member of the working class probably works harder, especially considering the relative compensation.


Still, K & R
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:10 PM
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84. Well if she can't handle the job, she needs to step aside.
As it is she is flushing our country down the toilet.

If she's so damn liberal then why is she bringing up this fascist bullshit up for vote? She's complicit and becoming an active accomplice. I'd call her and tell her so but I know I would just start yelling obsenities into the phone at an aide.

I have officially given up.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #84
87. Hope you like Speaker Hoyer. n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:23 PM
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96. Yeah, we're fucked no matter what. That's why people are so disgusted
with her. She was supposed to be the one who would fight for us. If so-called liberals are just putting up a good front then we have no one left to depend on.

Like I said, I have officially given up. It's a waste of time. The world is controlled by people far more powerful than the members of congress, in fact congress is controlled by the same group, and are lowly members of it as well. Better to just live your life as best you can and forget about this waste of time. I see it now. We're just mere pawns. In fact, she and others are probably purposely pissing us off just to get us to disengage.

Well it worked.

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:14 PM
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86. If there isn't a word that describes ...
"apologist for losers", I would suggest the 4-letter word "cali".
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #86
90. Or you can call me traitor
or quisling, or suggest that I'm betraying liberalism. And I can tell you that you're full of it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:14 PM
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88. amen. nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:17 PM
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92. Where are all the Hillary supporters who say such language is unacceptable? Is it okay for Pelosi bu
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 04:18 PM by saracat
misogynistic only when applied to Hillary? Wrong is wrong.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #92
113. Why drag Hillary into this?
Slow day in GD-P?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #113
120. Nope.It is just that so many said it wasn't just a political issue when Hillary was called names.
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 04:56 PM by saracat
It was a misogynist issue.And was an insult to ALL women.If that is so, and I don't disagree BTW, why aren't they protesting Nancy being called these names?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:23 PM
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97. The provocative headline schtick is getting out of control. n/t
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:29 PM
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100. Nancy has fucked the future perception of how Dems handled the past!
And yet Nancy went into the job of Speaker with her eyes WIDE OPEN. Yes it is a hard job, but she also asked for the privilege to serve. Her anti-war rhetoric and that of many other Dems leading up to election of 06 was a mainstay in the debate.

I cut her zero slack for failing not only to act per the will of We The People who elected her, but her failure to act along with other complicit Dems (and the usual lock-step rethugs) will lead to more tragic loss of life needlessly in Iraq - not to mention more billions of wasted dollars.

Failure to tie war $$$ to a time line!
Failure to at least initiate impeachment proceedings for a vote in The House!

Future students of American History are owed a footnote that says some in the Democratic Party attempted to curb Shrub's abuse of the Executive Branch (and power in general). There will be no said footnote.

Nancy has failed us.
Though I would never call her a bitch or a traitor....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:33 PM
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103. I hate that will of people crap more than almost anything.
It's a fucking myth, and it's no truer when liberals say it than when wingnut repukes say it.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:46 PM
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112. please elaborate...
Our voices voted with a collective shout in 06 to DO SOMETHING to end the fucking war!

What about that is a myth?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:34 PM
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105. Oh come off it. There is no (but NO) explanation for what she is doing to protect the criminals.
What is it with this bizarre pedantic reproach?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #105
110. Guess what?
Not every one has the same perspective. I think it's utter bullshit to say that she's protecting bushco, or has any desire to do so. I'm disappointed in some of her actions, but not as delusional as people who insist it's all some conspiracy to protect bush.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #110
117. failure to act is passive protection at the least...
Nancy and co. had, IMHO, a moral obligation to enter Articles of Impeachment in The House for a vote.

I don't give a flying fuck if the pundits predict it is not winnable; the very act of trying alone has great meaning - it says to the world that some in America refuse to stand quietly by when our president commits war crimes, illegal wiretapping, unlimited GITMO detention....

Just because something may not succeed, is NO reason to say it is not right to try.

Nancy threw in the towel without even putting up a fight. We need a new Speaker!!!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:37 PM
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106. According to the list given by Will Pitt, the bill is actually quite acceptable
and does not give unsupervised rights to the Bushista. He will take them anyway of course, but do not blame that on Nancy.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #106
107. That may or may not be true, but the Senate version does just that.
And the last time they came up with two FISA-bill versions, Nancy apparently said the hell with it and went with he Senate version.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:41 PM
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108. Prove it. Show us the language. n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #108
111. I don't even know where the language is, but I'm an informed person who
keeps track of this sort of thing. Maybe you can be an informed person someday.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:52 PM
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114. I'm disappointed and I'm expressing it.
:shrug:

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:53 PM
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119. Do you think that Iraqis would cut her any slack?
I don't
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:57 PM
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121. I have no idea. And neither do you. n/t
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:58 PM
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122. Locking
Please do not continue arguments from other threads.
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