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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:31 PM
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DU, I have a question
Can anyone tell me if Wayne Madsen is a credible source? Thank you!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:31 PM
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1. no he isn't imo, his stuff usually gets removed quickly.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:32 PM
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2. Not allowed on DU and
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 08:34 PM by Breeze54
I found that out the hard way. He said some 'bad' things
about DU, apparently, so he's not allowed as a reference.
I personally like his articles but they aren't accessible
anymore unless you pay at his website.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM
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3. No. He often comes up with outrageous stories without sourcing
anything.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM
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4. Doesn't matter here. He's a banned source at DU.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM
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7. He's a loon n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:36 PM
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8. Is that "Loon" like a slur for Canadians or Minnesotans or do you just use birds
as points of comparison?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:43 PM
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12. That's "loon" as in short for "loony" as in short for "lunatic".
You must never have watched Monty Python -- "Spot the Loony!"

sw
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:46 PM
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13. Monty Python is so mid-20th Century!
To make up for that you must BRING ME A SHRUBBERY!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:56 PM
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18. Ni! Ni nininininini ni!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:47 PM
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14. LOL!
:rofl:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM
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5. I find him to be far-fetched.
I don't link to him here, but I read him on occasion. He's written some pretty elaborate stuff. I'll try to find the one piece I read by him that gave me pause to ever believe him in his entirety -- won't link to it, but I'll get the title, if I can recall it.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM
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6. Not one bit. n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:39 PM
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9. He tends to pull stuff out of his butt.
Once in awhile he's right, but he's in chapeau de feuille d'etain territory often enough that his credibility is iffy at best.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:39 PM
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10. As near as I can tell, more people think he is not credible than think he is.
I haven't read anything by him for quite awhile. I think he gets some things right some of the time, but I also think he can get pretty loose with his "facts". I think he has tendency to either exaggerate or outright fabricate.

I certainly wouldn't ever cite him as a sole source for anything, I'd look for coaborating evidence elsewhere.

sw
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:41 PM
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11. Right after the 2004 election...
When all here were simply in a fugue state, grasping at straws of hope while in a state of disbelief and pain, Madsen started posting here, making some rather ambitious claims and predictions. Trouble is, Madsen and his stuff is like a huge pile of manure that you have to dig through to find the pony. He got a lot of hopes up here and those hopes did not pan out. In retrospect, it could be said that he manipulated the situation and people's emotions in the service of his own legend.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:43 PM
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15. well, now I'm curious
Never heard of him before. Is he not credible because he's a propagandist, or conspiracy nut, or doesn't get facts right, or what? Someone clue me in here.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:44 PM
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16. I'd choose conspiracy nut and doesn't get his facts right -- kinda a hand in hand thing with him n/t
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:45 PM
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17. B and C, only more like "makes shit up."
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