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DonkeyInChinaShop Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:25 PM
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Romney: "Asking if Obama is black is like asking if I'm Christian"
"The only difference is that it's more socially acceptable to be one rather than the other!"

Romney didn't really say that, but it would be interesting to see everyone's reaction in the press, political circles, etc. if he did.

Bonus: Which do you think is more of a handicap in the 2008 race, being black or being Mormon?
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:29 PM
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1. Being African-American. Even Rednecks might vote for a Mormon.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:29 PM
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2. Being Mormon.
The Baptist Convention has been pushing the idea of Mormonism being a cult for the past twenty years. It may now reach up and bite them in the ass! LOL!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:31 PM
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3. Being a mormon is a liability if you are relying on the Robertson/ Dobson/ Swaggart/ Bakker vote.
You know, those people who want to fight theocracies overseas while creating one here.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:32 PM
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4. Being Mormon.
Many, but by no means all, fundies would vote for a black man who was on their political side, especially if he was a fellow fundie, most of them would not vote for a Mormon no matter what his politics.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:35 PM
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7. sorry but i could not vote for a Mormon.. that is just too lame
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:39 PM
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11. What's lame about it? (unless you mean Romney specifically, which would be lame)
Every religion has beliefs that appear to be wacky to the outsider. I'd go so far as to say every PERSON has beliefs that appear to be wacky to other people.

I was born and raised Christian, but I can admit we have practices & beliefs that won't make much sense to some non-Christians.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:51 PM
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16. I've come to believe religion, in general. has developed
more and more negative reactions. And morman = crazy
beliefs like scientology silliness

They are all lame, silly, destructive or a combo
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:58 PM
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20. scientology is REALLY SCARY... REALLY SCARY...REALLY SCARY!!!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:55 PM
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18. it i just the gold tablets and Faith in 'who' found them... and the lack of gold tablet evidence of
Edited on Sun Feb-11-07 08:56 PM by sam sarrha
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:32 PM
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5. Mormons are not Christians according to evangelicals
...I think Romney may be leading with his chin and he just might get his head knocked off.

<snip>
Is the Mormon Religion a Christian Religion?

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From the publications of Utah Missions, Inc (an Evangelical mission to Mormons). UMI's purpose is to publish information relating to the Mormon church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as the LDS church), so that Christians can gain a more accurate understanding of Mormonism. We seek to glorify God the Son by thus enabling Christians to be both "inoculated" against the Mormon missionary program, and better armed as witnesses for the Lord Jesus to members of the Mormon church.

You may obtain a free subscription to the Evangel by sending a message to UMI@UMI.org or by writing to UMI, PO Box 348, Marlow, OK 73055, or by calling our office at (800) 654-3992 or (580) 658-5631 or fax (580) 658-2867

The following articles cover Mormon teachings about the nature of God, the exaltation to Godhood, and the Virgin Birth.

<MORE>

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/num23.htm
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:33 PM
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6. rush Limpballs called him a "Half-rican"..cause he is lighter
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:35 PM
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8. Being a moron.
Ooops, I mean Romney's a Mormon, yeah, that's right, Mormon.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:39 PM
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12. Too bad that's not a handicap
If being a moron was Bush wouldn't be in office.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:36 PM
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9. Being mormon is a huge handicap
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:42 PM
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13. OTOH, he'd have Utah's delegates sewn up nice&tight on that basis
Probably a decent shot at Idaho and a few others, too.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:38 PM
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10. Interesting question
in other eras I would guess that being black would be a bigger handicap. In this era of division of "you aren't Christian but we are" exclusivity being a mormon *could* rival being black - except that there is a whole lota forgiving if one has a chance to win that goes on in the GOP (look at Arnie in California) which quickly lowers the Mormon handicap - leaving the black handicap as bigger. BUT and this is an important BUT - Obama has charisma that Romney doesn't. Sure Mitt is "attractive" but some folks find Quayle is attractive - but neither have ever resonated with crowds like Obama does. He has something very special - one of those qualities that is hard to quantify or explain. I honestly believe this quality eclipses perceived 'handicaps'.

For example, imagine Obama vs someone like Quayle - any question who would win? Now go to the current GOP field. The only folks with any 'appeal' to the broader public (broader than the 30% that still likes bush) are folks like Hagel who are hated by that 30% that is important to winning the primary. Given that reality - the 'handicap' question becomes an intellectual game (that above I engage in) that has no real meaning, imo.

All of that said - I am not yet behind any candidate. My biggest concern per Obama is his relative lack of 'experience'. But does 'experience' lower him per presidential potential below any of the other announced candidates? Not in my book - each has their own potential flaws. And this time around 'electability' doesn't seem to be an issue to me - as for the first time in my lifetime I honestly believe that whoever becomes the dem. candidate WILL be the next president. Why do I believe that? Because since the 06 elections the Bushco seems intent to still pushing their muscle upon the entire GOP forcing the whole party to be a part of very, very unpopular policies - and they (other GOP elected officials) do not appear to be strong enough to stand independently of bushco - and if this continues (and bushco's actions suggest that it will) the whole party will be tainted with the low popularity of the president as they will not be able to frame things as a 'bad apple' scenario.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:46 PM
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14. I like.
Perfectly ambiguous.
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DonkeyInChinaShop Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 09:29 PM
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21. Thanks
I try
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:46 PM
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15. Black
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:51 PM
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17. You could start a 'net rumor that he did. n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:57 PM
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19. JFK was Catholic and they said he could never win


I have left the fact that he is African American behind.

He will either win on his merits or now win because he smokes cigarettes :sarcasm:


Seriously, we as Democrats need to set the example, and I think we are doing that,he is an AMERICAN that qualifies to run for President.

End of story.
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