Smart ass gets tasered for resisting arrest, Black men get shot for being the same race as a suspect

[wndycty]

Let's really ask which should we be more outraged about here. I think what happened to that kid is fucked up, but tell me why I should be more outraged about that than more appalling shit that happens on a daily basis?

While I know DU is sympathetic to the Jenna 6, I have never seen the same outrage on here for them that I do for this kid, who was actually resisting arrest.

Again its FUCKED UP what happened to him, however it wasn't like he was trying to cooperate with the police when they attempted to escort him out. As a Black man I wouldn't dare think to take on the police like he did. I know that is not right, but I have never thought that I was supposed to ignore authority.

[trumad]

1. I've been on this site from the beginning..

and the revisionist shit that I'm reading about this story is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever read hear. You'd think the cops ripped his arms off.

[wndycty]

2. If his defenders will at least acknowledge he was resisting arrest. . .

. . .I do believe they went too far, however he physically resisted when the police tried to escort him out. If the police tried to escort me out I would be pissed, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tuned me up a bit for resisting.

[Marrah_G]

19. The kid was a punk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CheY0jYXJjY&NR=1

He is a truly obnoxious little asshat.

He went there looking to start shit, he cut in front of other students to rant and rave. There were no questions, since questions require allowing the other person to respond. He asked them in a rude and aggressive manner and found out that there are consequences for acting like a jerk.

[Bluebear]

3. You say it's fucked up, yet you justify it and racialize it?

[wndycty]

7. You are damned right I did, this selective outrage is bullshit. . .

. . .go into any inner city community in this country and take a look at police brutality, profiling, etc., and EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE FUCK this should outrage me more.

[Bluebear]

9. You are lecturing people who have stood by you for equal rights for ALL.

Don't come to DU and accuse people of "selective" outrage so easily.

[wndycty]

12. I'll lecture whomever the hell I want. . .

. . .I doubt anyone who is confident in their commitment for equal rights for all will be offended, they would know I was not talking about them.

[Bluebear]

14. Have at it then, sorry for interjecting.

:yoiks:

[Zodiak]

30. It shouldn't

but it should not outrage you less, either.

I am pretty much on an even burn for all of the outrages I've seen. This is just today's outrage.

I could say the same about the Miami protests, the RNC protests, New Orleans, the IWW protest this year, etc.

The fact is, the cops have become totally overzealous and we all need to do something about it. They've been like this for years, but have been getting away with it.

[robinlynne]

23. No, he says "let's put this in perspective", where it is really not all that important. Tomorrow

the senate will or will not RESTORE HABEUS CORPUS! That, my friend, is important.

edited cause I make way too many typos.

[LSK]

4. IRAN

Yet those IAEA threads are not popular.

[TwilightZone]

5. It would seem that some DUers are still reliving the '04 primaries.

[followthemoney]

28. Most Democrats I talk to think Bush won fair and square both times.

Most people don't have a memory longer than the last news cycle.

Shame on those who remember.

You will never be happy if you can't forget.

Take another blue pill.

[TwilightZone]

32. Perhaps you misread my post. I said "primaries", not "general election".

n/t

[followthemoney]

33. Sorry, I'm still reliving the whole 2004 debacle. And its consequences.nt

[TwilightZone]

34. Reliving the general election is fine.

Reliving the primaries might be a bit much. :)

[reality based]

6. Did you see the video of Reverend Yearwood being arrested at the Petreus hearing?

[wndycty]

8. Yeah, and it didn't spark nearly as much discussion, did it?

:kick:

[reality based]

18. I don't know, but there was quite a bit when I was online.

Seemed to be the same arbitrary abuse of power. I condemn it in both cases. I guess to prove it I need to shut up now?

[madrchsod]

20. actually it did,

i`m been here at least every two hours from 6 in the morning to 1 or 2 in the morning for the last several months and the rev story was covered the same if not more. we`ll see how long this one plays out before this one is forgotten

[AuntPatsy]

26. I do find it wrong what they did to that young man and my family and myself have been unfairly

pushed around by the police a time or two, so I do know what that feels like, sadly my daughter kind of lost her sanity and now they leave us alone, they are scared of her obviously so is the government so they have no wish to find aid for her or those with her mental disabilities so those with her condition freely walk amongst us and are more than capable of causing harm yet they are ignored and left alone..funny that. I dont see how that young man was a threat to anyone enough to have the use of taser nor the many others the media seemingly have ignored ever since the little device found its home amongst law enforcement.

Right or wrong the amount of attention he is receiving the outright abuse of the use of tasers needs to be addressed at some time don't you think? People have died from its abuse.

But your right to be angry, the reason it is getting more coverage on du is that people tune into the media at all hours of the day and night as they do on du and so they post on what they just heard about and its all over the airways.

A nice diversion from the crimes of the gop though so it works for the msm.

[KaptBunnyPants]

31. Wasn't it the highest recommended post on DU at the time.?

I remember being very pissed off about it, especially when some blowhards kept arguing he deserved it for "resisting" the police. Even though it was on video and everyone could see that the guy flinched when a cop grabbed him from behind and then they broke his ankles for it.

[Marrah_G]

10. Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CheY0jYXJjY&NR=1

Thats what the other videos don't show.

Then tell me that the kid wasn't specifically looking to cause trouble. He was not asking questions he was "informing" people, as he said. He went looking to stir up shit and then cried like a baby when there were consequences.

The Jena 6 deserve our outrage, this little asshat does not.

[Truth2Tell]

35. I watched the video ??

I didn't see the guy commit a crime?? That's what you arrest people for isn't it? Can someone help me with this one?

[IndianaJones]

11. I salute your honesty.

Get ready for the flames.

[wndycty]

16. Don't worry I'm a veteran of tons of DU flame wars

:kick:

[subsuelo]

13. Great point

[malaise]

15. Both are wrong

I will never support the use of taser guns on a University Campus.
Sp.

[Karenina]

24. What was the outcome of the kid at UCLA

who got tasered in the library? Anyone know?

[madrchsod]

17. if one moves once that hand is on the body

it`s resisting arrest no matter what the circumstances. 99% of the police just want to do their job,not get hurt,and go home..it`s the 1% that everyone should be concerned about. as for the du sympathy i have no idea other than there was`t any real time video.

i see chicago cops have a blogger....http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

[tkmorris]

21. People are jaded

You are right in everything you said of course, and I am not defending the lack of proper outrage over the Jena 6 or other groups or individuals that have been treated similarly.

I do however understand why these things happen, at least in part. People are so accustomed to the difference in how black people are treated versus how white people are that no one is shocked by it anymore. Something like Jena happens and instead of being as outraged as is called for, most people simply see it as "same as it ever was". It takes an event that surpasses prior outrages to really register with people. To be honest I don't think the Jena situation would have gotten any coverage at all if the white students hadn't put a noose in that tree. It was that image alone that generated much of the national interest, such as it was.

How do you overcome the racial issues combat fatigue? I don't know really. Keep talking. Keep being outraged, and demand that attention be paid. Keep shaking people, wake them up, make them listen to you. You keep fighting, and I will too. Keep the faith.

[wndycty]

22. Very good points

:kick:

[Karenina]

25. What do you think would have happened

had YOU behaved in the same manner as the student in question?

[wndycty]

27. Not sure if I would have expected being tasered, however I would have probably . . .

. . .gotten a tune up. It does not justify the actions of the officers, however I probably would not have physically resisted the policy I was raised differently.

[Karenina]

36. Of course you were raised differently.

Your parents wanted you to get to adulthood...

ALIVE.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I Posted A Free The Jena6 Petition That Made The Greatest Page

As someone who was falsely arrested and subsequently had the charges dropped and successfully sued the city I recommend that a person not resist arrest... There are more of them than you and they have guns and bully clubs...

PEACE

DSB