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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:42 PM
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A Nation of "Haves" and "Have-Nots"?
Far More Americans Now See Their Country as Sharply Divided Along Economic Lines

by Jodie T. Allen, Senior Editor, Pew Research Center and Michael Dimock, Associate Director for Research, Pew Research Center for the People & the Press:

Over the past two decades, a growing share of the public has come to the view that American society is divided into two groups, the "haves" and the "have-nots." Today, Americans are split evenly on the two-class question with as many saying the country is divided along economic lines as say this is not the case (48% each). In sharp contrast, in 1988, 71% rejected this notion, while just 26% saw a divided nation.

Of equal importance, the number of Americans who see themselves among the "have-nots" of society has doubled over the past two decades, from 17% in 1988 to 34% today. In 1988, far more Americans said that, if they had to choose, they probably were among the "haves" (59%) than the "have-nots" (17%). Today, this gap is far narrower (45% "haves" vs. 34% "have-nots").

These shifting attitudes have occurred gradually over the past two decades, although the perception of personal financial stringency appears to have risen more rapidly in recent years. As recently as 2001, a 52%-majority still viewed themselves as resting on the positive side of the economic balance, compared with 32% who felt they were monetarily in need. Since then the number of self-described "haves" has fallen by seven percentage points, a decline as large as that which occurred over the previous 13 years.

The share of Americans who see the country as divided along economic lines has also continued to tick upward, though at a somewhat slower rate in recent years (Have/have-not perceptions rose by 18 points over the 13 years between 1988 and 2001 compared with a rise of four points over the last six years).

The increased prevalence of both views -- that the country is increasingly divided along economic lines and that a given individual is on the wrong side of that divide -- finds support in national economic data. As numerous studies have demonstrated in recent years, income gains over the last few decades have been heavily concentrated at the very top of the income distribution. For example, in an update of their earlier study of long-term U.S. income trends,1 economists Piketty and Saez compute that the share of income going to families in the top 1% of the income scale has doubled from 8% in 1980 to 16% in 2004 even excluding capital gains.2 (For a review of other recent studies see an earlier Pew commentary, "Pinched Pocketbooks: Do Average Americans Spot Something That Most Economists Miss?"3)

Meanwhile, Congressional Budget Office data4 show that despite the increase in the number of families with two or more earners and widespread income gains in the latter half of the 1990s, families in the middle fifth of the income distribution realized only a modest $6,600 increase in annual income between 1988 and 2004, while the top 1% of families saw their incomes rise from $839,100 to an average $1,259,700. Recently released Census Bureau data show that in 2006, median household income adjusted for inflation was still 2.1% below its 1999 level.5 More sensationally, Bloomberg.com recently reported on a study showing that "top private-equity and hedge fund managers made more in 10 minutes than average-paid U.S. workers earned all of last year."6

Factors Driving Perceptions of an Economic Divide & rest of article @ following link:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/593/haves-have-nots
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:38 PM
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1. Use to be that the American Middle class was shrinking. Now the lower middle class is shrinkingtoo
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:58 AM
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2. yes. It's a squeeze to either push people down, or up
problem is most will get pushed down.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:15 AM
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7. Meanwhile, Chinese and Indian middle classes are rising, people moved out of poverty,
and the quality of the goods they make is far worse than anything Americans made.

:shrug:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:05 AM
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3. I rarely shop except when
something of mine requires replacement because it broke....but has anyone else noticed that 'middle-priced' goods are gone as well? It seems that there is all of theses luxury items and then tons of crap items....nothing in the middle. WTF?

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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:10 AM
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4. I know
I hate Wal-Mart, and the likes, but I can't afford $20 for a bath towel, so what am I supposed to do?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:37 PM
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9. air dry. nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:30 PM
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11. I used to find pretty cool stuff
at TJ Maxx's/Marshall's....especially their clearance aisles. And Tuesday Morning.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:13 AM
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5. Wrong formula: A NATION of have-nots, a tiny internationally mobile class of haves.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:14 AM
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6. Why can't we be a nation of..
We all have Somes.

Want it, well Share it.And do not see every relationship as an economic exchange.
The tyranny of the market stops inside us first.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:19 AM
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8. An economic system with a top and a bottom? Shocking
Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 11:23 AM by NoMoreMyths
That's the price you pay for globalization. Anyone think that process is under way so that the rabble can get some easy travel and communication? No, it's for business interests. Who gives you easy travel and communication? Primarily corporations.

The Haves and HaveNots have been going at it for a long time. It's nothing new. There have been battles here and there, with both sides winning a few. Of course each time the HaveNots win, the Haves use that victory against the HaveNots to further their own goals. So the HaveNots always end up playing catch-up.

Especially today, with capital as globally mobile as it is. The HaveNots still have color, country, gender, and any other possible difference to divide them. The Haves only have a single color(guess, it's easy), they have no country, and are genderless(they even go in reverse order, they merge with other Haves and they go in instead of out). That's the problem with economies of scale, and especially any type of a global economy.

And the pictures for the reverse order...stunningly breathtaking.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 03:33 PM
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10. The goddamn rethugs are systematically destroying the middle class.
Bastards! :puke:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:40 PM
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12. Well, since *'s base is the haves and the have mores.....
what more did you expect?
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