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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:24 AM
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2 DEAD ***Minot Air Force Base Airman Died While on Leave ***WHERE THE NUKES ENDED UP***
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:01 PM by seemslikeadream
Two died in July, the other two since the nuke thing

http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=10465




http://cryptogon.com/?p=1299

September 14th, 2007

Remember the one about the B-52 bomber that, according to legend, had six nuclear weapons loaded onto it by accident, which, of course, could not have happenedby accidentfor a dozen different reasons, or more.

Airman 1st Class Todd Blue was assigned to the unit that provides security for that bomber wing at Minot Air Force base. He died while on leave in Virginia. No further details have been released.

Coincidence?

Was he on duty when those nuclear weapons were loaded onto the B-52, by accident? If anyone has any further information on this, please let me know.

I expected to see many more deaths of Minot and Barksdale Air Force personnel in the wake of this incident.

Have I missed any others?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:25 AM
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1. Apparently There Were THREE More
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:26 AM by Beetwasher
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:26 AM
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2. Thanks I hadn't seen that!
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:27 AM
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4. You Might Also Want To Put In Thread Title
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:28 AM by Beetwasher
Something about this being the base where the nukes ended up.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:29 AM
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5. I will and here's the post from LBN
here are 3 more
Posted by soothsayer on Sat Sep-15-07 09:30 AM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=726_1189529465

NWO 'BENT SPEAR' UPDATE: Body of missing Air Force captain found in Washington

Associated Press - September 9, 2007 11:15 PM ET

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - The body of a missing Air Force captain from Florida has been recovered in Skamania County, Washington.

Skamania County undersheriff Dave Cox says Captain John Frueh's rental car was found yesterday near Badger Peak and his body was discovered not far from the vehicle.

Cox says foul play is not suspected.

The 33-year-old captain arrived in Portland late last month to attend a friend's wedding. He last spoke with family on August 30th.


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Minot airman dies while on leave

The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 16:04:23 EDT

MINOT, N.D. Minot Air Force Base officials say an airman from the base has died while on leave in Virginia.

A statement from the base says Airman 1st Class Todd Blue, 20, died Monday while visiting with family members in Wytheville, Va. The statement did not say how he died but said the incident is under investigation.

The base says Blue was a response force member assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron. He enlisted in the Air Force in March 2006 and was assigned to the Minot base the following August.

He constantly stepped up to help out his fellow airmen and was a vital presence in squadron sports and volunteer programs, Lt. Col. John Worley, the 5th Security Forces Squadron commander, said in the base statement.

---------------

Jul 5 2007 6:42AM
Associated Press
Minot, N.D. (AP) Authorities have identified a Minot Air Force Base man killed in a crash on the outskirts of Minot.

Base officials say 20-year-old Adam Barrs was a passenger in a vehicle that failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire late Tuesday night.

Barrs was pronounced dead at the scene.

The driver is identified as 20-year-old Airman Stephen Garrett.

He was taken to Minot's Trinity Hospital in critical condition
http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=140988

======================================================

Minot Airman dies in motorcycle accident

1st Lt. Weston Kissel, 23rd Bomb Squadron

MINOT (AP) - A Minot Air Force Base bomber pilot was killed in a motorcycle crash in Tennessee, the base says.

1st Lt. Weston Kissel, 28, was a B-52 pilot assigned to the 23rd Bomb Wing at the Minot base, said Lt. Col. Gerald Hounchell, the 23rd Bomb Squadron commander. Kissel died Tuesday in the crash, while on leave, the base said.

Kissel, a native of Tennessee, graduated from the Air Force Academy in 2004, and arrived at the Minot base in July last year, the base said.

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/20/news...
www.minot.af.mil >

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:39 AM
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7. Cool!
:thumbsup:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:42 AM
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11. I can't believe it's 4!
I had to read it three times for it to sink in, I changed the title 3 times!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:43 AM
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12. Yeah, Pretty Crazy
Nothing to see here! Move along!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:42 AM
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9. a car..a bridge and a dead microbiologist who had just received an award
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:43 AM by SoCalDem
why do all these "events" have a familiar ring to them???

they suspected suicide.. Hmmmm???


http://www.ellisctaylor.homestead.com/anotherdeadscient...

snip....

Dr. Don C Wiley, one of the United States foremost infectious disease researchers was declared missing. Associated Press wrote:
"His rental car was found with a full tank of petrol and the keys in the ignition.
His disappearance looked like a suicide, but according to colleagues and Dr. Wiley's family, the Harvard Scientist associated with the Howard Hughes Medical Institute would never commit suicide. Associates who attended the St. Jude's Children Research Advisory Dinner with Dr. Wiley, just hours before he disappeared, said that he was in good spirits and not depressed.

He was last seen at the banquet at the Peabody Hotel in downtown Memphis the night he vanished. Those who saw him last say he showed no signs of a man contemplating his own death."
Wiley left the hotel around midnight. The bridge where his car was found is only a five-minute drive away and in the wrong direction from where he was staying, leaving authorities with a four-hour, unexplained gap until his vehicle was found.

Memphis police were exploring several theories involving suicide, robbery and murder.

On December 21st Reuters issued the following report:

"The body of a Harvard scientist missing for more than a month since his rental car was left parked on a bridge over the Mississippi River has been found downstream. Workers at a hydro-electric plant in Louisiana found the body of Dr. Don Wiley on Thursday, about 300 miles south of Memphis where the molecular biologist was last seen on Nov. 16. Authorities have yet to determine the cause of death, Memphis police said."


snip.. (all are linked at this site)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:16 PM
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33. The first two are mysterious--and alarming--indeed.
If I was a witness to the loading of those nukes onto that B-52, I'd be watching my back right now. Sounds like whoever gave the orders may be trying to cover their tracks.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:26 AM
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3. dupe
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:26 AM by seemslikeadream
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:03 PM
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56. Either the link is bad
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 06:05 PM by FREEWILL56
or the thread was yanked. :shrug:
Nevermind as I see in a farther down posting it was moved.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:46 PM
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57. Missing topic?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:48 PM
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58. It's this one it was moved from LBN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


I don't know why it says missing it should say moved
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:32 AM
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6. WTF? What are the odds?
Do soldiers stationed in the U.S. have an extremely high mortality rate, or what? I don't think so. Also, if the deaths of the 3 soldiers who helped write the editorial are merely a coincidence, you have to think that the odds of getting killed in Iraq are much higher than we've been led to believe.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:39 AM
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8. kick kick kick kick
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:42 AM
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10. screw the tinfoil- this is beyond coincidence-
this is bad-

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:49 PM
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55. You said it!
Someone up thread reminded us of the dead microbiologists - I had forgotten there were a stream of them a few years ago who died. {gulp}
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:47 AM
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13. Kick kick kick
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:50 AM
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14. WTF? ? !?!?!?!?!?!?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:53 AM
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15. Seems like a dream was never more appropriate.
This is unreal.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:54 AM
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16. A sad k&r
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:56 AM
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17. Yes, but two died last July
n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:00 PM
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19. Thanks I didn't realize that
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:01 PM
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21. July '07
2 months before the nuke incident was reported. No one is saying the deaths are definitely related. But it is curious. So they happened before the nukes arrived at the base. I would assume IF there was some conspiracy (not necessarily saying there was one), "preparations" would have to happen BEFORE whatever they would be trying to accomplish could be accomplished.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:26 PM
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39. It's all very odd
As for the young man in the first post, from my understanding, he was security forces - meaning he would be assigned to fly alongside a plane carrying warheads. But also from my understanding, those warheads should never have been loaded onto the plane that flew to Barksdale. If the warheads were to be decommissioned, they would have been sent to Pantex from Minot.

Sadly, I wonder less about nefarious purposes and more about a military so broken that even these supposedly fail-safe unbreakable security procedures failed.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:27 PM
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40. Anything's Possible, I Agree
But the whole thing, and now with some deaths thrown in the mix is, as you said, very odd.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:03 PM
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48. Security Forces

The range of duties of security forces personnel is rather broad, ranging from gate duty to, at least now, serving as convoy protection in Iraq or Afghanistan. He could have been someone assigned to guarding warheads, but we don't know that.

He was an airman, so he wouldn't have been flying a plane at any rate.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:23 PM
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49. Thanks for the info
I am unlearned on the particular jobs. I do know for a fact, those warheads should have gone to Pantex if they were be either decommissioned or upgraded.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:58 AM
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18. will this stiffen the spine of the generals?
i think that having our 'civilian' military needs to remember that they do not have the option of "just following orders". when these maniacs go to push the button, someone better say NO!
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:00 PM
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20. Also a couple of weeks ago here in WA State, a female military officer went missing, and her car
was found in Canada. I never heard an update to the story.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:02 PM
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22. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't two of the four deaths before the nuke incident?
n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:03 PM
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23. I just change the headline a minute ago when I found that out
:hi:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:04 PM
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24. Thanks.
Sorry, I hadn't yet seen blogslut's post.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:11 PM
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29. See My Post #28
Why does it matter?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:14 PM
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31. It's seems that it does not matter but I didn't want to mislead
If I could do it over again I would have phrased the title differently
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:10 PM
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28. I Don't Understand Why That Matters
They died pretty close to the time of the "accident". I'm NOT saying they are necessarily related, but why would deaths that MIGHT be related HAVE to happen AFTER the incident? :shrug:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:17 PM
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34. The early two could have been trying to prevent.....nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:07 PM
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25. Nukes Over Amerika (Weekend Edition)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:07 PM
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26. Looks like it's time for Minot and Barksdake personnel to GO PUBLIC! They need to tell what they
know before more people are killed.

I would love to know if they (all the airmen who have since died) were working the night the nukes were on that plane. :scared: How would we find out?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:09 PM
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27. Why?
I do not see how the movement of 6 out of of tens of thousands of stockpiled nuclear weapons is spinning up a government plot to murder.

Even with a massive failure of procedure, it makes no sense.

The US nuclear arsenal can be moved without being flown. You may drive by a nuke and never even know it!

We already have nukes in every major theater and the means to deliver them.

This is tail chasing stupidity.

Maybe they were going to use them to make a tsunami...

A guy on leave from Iraq was killed here a few months ago by his wife and her boyfriend. Another was shot in a street crime. People do die, when there is a community of ten thousand people car crashes, shootings, and accidents do still happen.

If we are going to nuke someone it will be a plane from whiteman or diego. It will not be a b52 drooping that weapon.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:11 PM
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30. An "accident" of this magnitude has not happened in 40 years
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:18 PM
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35. neither had an accident like TMI, or
sorry I see a fuckup that will cost someone a career and command, not a government plot to nuke something.

like this one near SJAFB
http://www.ibiblio.org/bomb /

A quick google reveals dozens of these. More than 20 live nuclear weapons have been lost.

or this one
17 January 1966: One of the most embarrassing accidents in the history of nuclear weapons occurred when a B-52 Stratofortress carrying four B-28 thermonuclear bombs suffered a mid-air collision with a KC-135 tanker. The B-52 was on airborne alert and conducting a routine air refueling operation while returning to Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in North Carolina. The bomber was attempting its third refueling over the village of Palomares, Spain, when the nozzle of the tanker's boom struck the plane. The boom ripped open the B-52 causing it to break into pieces while the KC-135's payload of jet fuel exploded, destroying the aircraft and killing its crew of seven. The debris of the two planes scattered over 100 square miles (260 sq km). One of the bomber's four weapons came down on land with minor damage while a second was lost in the ocean. This Broken Arrow was later recovered intact after one of the largest search and recovery operations ever mounted. The three-month search required 33 ships and over 3,000 Navy personnel before the weapon was recovered. While these two weapons suffered little damage, the high explosive casing of the other two bombs detonated upon impacting land spreading low levels of radioactive contamination over Palomares and the surrounding area. To avoid further danger, the US spent enormous sums to transport 1,400 tons of contaminated soil and vegetation from Spain to the United States for storage.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:19 PM
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36. I see a fuckup that will cost someone a career and command,
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:20 PM by seemslikeadream
IT ALREADY HAS


maybe you should read this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Nukes Over Amerika (Weekend Edition)
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 07:25 PM by Rick Myers
For those just tuning in, this is the continuing story of 6 lost and lonely AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each packing a W-80 variable yield nuclear warhead...

Somehow, some way, they were loaded onto the wing pylons of an active duty B-52 bomber, the B-52 was flown to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana from Minot AFB in North Dakota, then the missiles were left hanging on the unsecured, parked airplane for about ten hours.

A LIVE nuclear weapon has NOT flown on a US combat aircraft since 1968.

I have now heard from five retired and active duty Air Force members, each having some experience on the flight line, a crew chief and command and control types. NOT A ONE can concieve of ANY way this could have been an 'accident' or 'mistake.' Everyone agrees that these weapons were some how 'ordered' onto the aircraft (by someone, somehow) and that the flight crew DID NOT KNOW they were carrying nuclear weapons. No one can provide any sort of explanation as to how this could have occurred.

Eariler today I posted about this incident on a blog related to military issues, and the post was delieted later in the day. There was no 'tin-foil' material in the post, just a statement of known facts and some questions. No one in the MSM has picked up on this story, but it is a SERIOUS and SIGNIFICANT national story.

It is known that the Air Force is reviewing it's 'control protocols' and I have recieved a list of the various systems used to manage nuclear weapons. I will be looking into these systems this evening.

BTW: I have seen at least 4 tin-foil scenarios tossed out on the Internets. Some are completely crazy, but at least one requires some further research.

Here's a link to yeaterday's thread on this story: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...

Thanks for tuning in...
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:25 PM
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38. Good Thread..
I suspect the impact of this will be much greater than made public. This is a huge mess for the air force.

What we will never know is where the process broke.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:30 PM
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50. I get a 404 on that last link...
:shrug:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:44 PM
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51. Here ya go sweetie
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:34 PM
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42. whoops -- wrong place
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:34 PM by jgraz
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:16 PM
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32. "This is tail chasing stupidity."
Sorry we're not as sophisticated as you! :hi:
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:22 PM
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37. Not directed at OP
or any poster but this story is pretty simple. Someone fucked something up in the military. Not an uncommon thing. The fact that it leaked is pretty strange.

If you google broken arrow nuclear events you will find many massive accidents involving live nukes.

google criticality accidents and you will find more scary stuff.

again, for the conspiracy type this is pay dirt.

Just dont see this is as some mysterious event. Other than the disclosure, it is pretty straight forward.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:29 PM
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41. OMFG!
:tinfoilhat:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:35 PM
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43. Look out, here comes the delete. First thread already gone.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:37 PM
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44. Nahh, They Just Moved It To GD
n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:39 PM
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45. Ah...thanks.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:42 PM
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46. Blackwater is Trying to Keep the Cover on Cheney's Dirty Little Secret
Tinfoil or not...this is just too much of a coincidence. This is damage control. This is sending a message. This is a cover up.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:48 PM
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47. UPDATE: Barr (not Blue) Was Killed BY ANOTHER AIRMAN!!!!!!!
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:49 PM by Beetwasher
Who has been charged w/ negligent homicide:

http://www.kxmc.com/News/162245.asp

Driver in fatal crash charged with negligent homicide...

Sep 15 2007 10:16AM
Associated Press
Driver in fatal crash charged with negligent homicide

MINOT, N.D. (AP) The driver of a car involved in a crash that killed an airman from Minot Air Force Base in July has been charged with felony negligent homicide.

Authorities say 20-year-old airman Stephen Garrett was the driver of the car in which 21-year-old Adam Barrs was killed.

Court documents say Garrett failed to negotiate a curve on the outskirts of Minot. The car crashed and caught fire. An autopsy showed Barrs died of head and neck injuries suffered in the crash.

--snip--
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:45 PM
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52. Where the Nukes CAME from. They CAME from ND, across the country from LA
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 01:46 PM by uppityperson
The nukes CAME from ND. NORTH Dakota, is on the NORTH of the USA, where the nukes CAME from. Where they were not fixed before flying south to the SOUTHERN state of LA. North. South. Came from. Went to. Please, if you edit to get it right, please, thanks.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:20 PM
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53. You are all going nutty. The military is full of restless young men who love to drink and
get into trouble--ESPECIALLY when they're stationed at Minot (affectionately known as Why Not Minot)--there's just not much to do there. It's the demographics of the military that lead to problems, more than anything. The SP who died in Virginia--uh, right, someone FOLLOWED him there on leave to kill a lowly A1C--PLEASE, people, you're making me think DUers are slipping over the edge of sanity and reason.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:45 PM
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54. 40 years wienerdoggie
This hasn't happened in 40 years
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:55 PM
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60. that you know of
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:55 PM
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59. My government is telling me that
six nuclear weapons were "accidentally" loaded onto a B-52 bomber and I'm supposed to be worried about terrorists?

I doubt we will ever get the real information on what happened to this Airman, and it sounds awfully coincidental. This administration sure has a lot of coincidences.


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waterdancer Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:08 PM
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61. recent deaths in the Barksdale area
Not saying they're all related. Then again, not saying they aren't...

"Caddo Parish sheriff's deputies worked a wreck this morning in which two people from Barksdale Air Force Base were killed" (motorcycle accident) http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...

Helicopter crashes in rural Caddo Parish (may have taken off from Barksdale- two people dead)
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7068344
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:05 PM
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62. Locking
The thread starter is no longer with us.
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