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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:55 AM
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3 people murdered on my block this week
Separate incidents.

"A man was fatally shot Monday in Uptown in the exact same spot -- and at nearly the exact same time of day -- that a homeless man was shot and killed last week, Chicago Police said.
It was the third fatal shooting in the neighborhood in a week.

A security guard hired by a nearby nursing home after the first incident witnessed the second shooting and trailed the offenders, providing a major lead in the case for detectives, police said.

The guard, an off-duty police officer, was standing outside Wilson Care, 4544 N. Hazel, at 4:45 a.m. when someone got out of a cab and fired two shots, striking Mario Bell, 25, once in the head, police said. Bell, of the 4300 block of West Belden, was walking with his girlfriend on Hazel when he was shot."

The taxi thing is weird. A lot of taxi drivers live in the neighborhood and maybe they are trying to "clean up" the neighborhood Death Wish style.

Anyway, did I mention I loved living in Uptown? I didn't because it is a shithole.

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:57 AM
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1. Move to NWI. Gary trying to make a resurgence as Murder Capital. nt.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:58 AM
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2. Why do you live there?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:00 AM
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3. Got married, moved in with wife.
We move soon.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:04 AM
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6. We did much the same - and we got up and left Dade County, FL because it became a shithole
We had our first child and sat down and asked ourselves if it was any place to raise a kid - we came to the conclusion that only an idiot would raise a kid there. We also recognized that it didn't matter where we went, neither of us was either stupid or lazy, so we were going to make it no matter where we went. So we came here, to West Virginia, and to this day I do not regret that decision.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:14 AM
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11. I lived in Dade County most of my life.
I call South Florida the "Hellhole of the South." I finally wised up and moved here to the Atlanta, GA area.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:01 AM
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4. Time to move, stat
It only took me hearing gunshots once before I got my a** outta there. Broke the lease too, but I didn't care.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:01 AM
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5. Before I moved to the suburbs from Edgewater,
I had neighbors who moved to the neighborhood after living in Uptown for many years. They said it took them a while to get used to not hearing gunfire every evening. Uptown is a weird neighborhood -- upscale rehabbed condos worth hundreds of thousands of dollars next door to seedy SRO hotels.

I know the area well; both my parents are buried in St. Boniface.

Are you considering moving?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:05 AM
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7. Condo goes on the market tomorrow
We actually have been planning to move for a few months (there is a tot on the way). I had to get my real estate license, then we had to find a realtor then spruce the place up.

I was emailed the listing contract last night.

These murders have nothing to do with us leaving but it is kinda the cherry on top.

Funny thing about the gunshots - I don't hear too many. Maybe my air conditioner is too loud outside.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:10 AM
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9. Where are you headed?
Mrs. Iconcat and I are pretty much stuck in Chicago, but I don't know that I'd really want to leave. There's violence everywhere, and I refuse to be a prisoner.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:17 AM
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13. Have not decided yet
Maybe River Forest (but the taxes are murder - I think we are going to wait until the tot is school aged and save a few bucks on the taxes).

Old Irving, Independence Park or Mayfair triangle is my choice, the Mrs. wants Ravenswood Manor or Gardens (too close to Blago!).
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:26 AM
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16. I'm in the town just south of River Forest.
Beautiful houses over there and the taxes ARE killer. I gather that the shopping center is helping, and the Whole Foods there is great...the few times I've actually succumbed to the urge to shop thee. The school district is great, though. Congratulations on the coming tot.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:39 AM
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19. Thanx
Do you live in Forest Park?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:49 AM
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22. Yes.
It's a cool town (Bucktown of the western suburbs), but the schools suck. Since I don't have kids, that isn't an issue for me.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:37 AM
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18. Have you checked out Portage Park?
I'm thinking of looking for a bungalow over there.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:41 AM
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20. Yes.
I am fond of Portage Park and it would really cut down on the commute. Housing is cheap, too.

It might be too far away from friends, family and good restaurants, tho.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:47 AM
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21. I've not run into any problems in Irving Park
Maybe because I'm a middle aged male and not a kid, female, or elderly, but I've had no problems whatsoever walking to and from the train for work every day. We moved into Irving Park about 4-5 years agao and they seem to be making some improvements to the area too.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:20 AM
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15. Good luck on the sale.
n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:06 AM
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8. Hey, I live in W. Rogers Park!
You know, where the guy butchered his family a few months ago? Trust me, every hood has its psychopaths. Even Naperville, IL.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:11 AM
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10. Jeeezus
It NEVER improves, not in 30 years, does it? Utterly impervious to community policing, gentrification, etc etc.

I have absolutely no idea why, but I dreamt I lived in Uptown last night. And I've been in California for a year and a half!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:17 AM
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12. you can never escape chicago
it`s in your soul..............!:rofl:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:19 AM
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14. It is not Chicago, it is Uptown.
Helen Schiller is cancer. Every effort at improving the neighborhood gets shut down.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:31 AM
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17. I was going to ask if Schiller were still your alderman
My sympathies my friend. She appears not to have separated advocacy for the disadvantaged from discouraging mayhem.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:05 AM
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23. Helen Schiller is bad news
I lived at Beacon & Sunnyside in the late 70s - early 80s. I attended Heart of Uptown Coalition meetings and got treated like I was the problem because I had moved into a building the landlords had un-slummed. Hell, I didn't know - I was just a renter who couldn't afford anything closer to downtown. Buildings were being torched all around the neighborhood, and then the mentally ill were dumped on the streets when Reagan cut programs. I finally moved after a grifter I had rebuffed threatened to shoot me.

Anyway, Schiller and Slim Coleman solicited me for money constantly but discouraged any deeper involvement. It didn't appear that they wanted to improve conditions for the poor but just control them as a voting bloc. They didn't get bars or liquor stores to close, or reclaim empty storefronts for community services. I don't understand how she keeps getting reelected.

When the el stops at Wilson I see a neighborhood that looks just about as bad as it did almost 30 years ago. That's some good coalition building, Helen.
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:30 AM
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24. Seems no-one has any respect for life these days
I live in a town of about 2000 people on the north shore of Lake Travis near Austin, and here is what happened a couple of weeks ago....

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/08/28/0828jonestown.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=52


you can't hide from it. :cry:
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