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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:56 AM
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Craig Blames Press For Guilty Plea

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/10/politics/main...

GOP Senator Wants To Withdraw Guilty Plea, Says He Was Under Extreme Stress From Reporters

(AP) Sen. Larry Craig should be allowed to withdraw his guilty plea in a sex sting because he was under extreme stress after being hounded by journalists asking questions about his sexuality, his lawyer argues.

Craig, an Idaho Republican, pleaded guilty in August to disorderly conduct following a sting operation in a men's bathroom at the Minneapolis airport. His lawyer, William Martin, said he will file court documents Monday trying to undo that decision so Craig can fight the charge.

Martin said Monday that Craig did not "knowingly and intelligently enter a guilty plea." The senator simply admitted conduct that "itself does not constitute a crime," Martin said.

"He admits to going into the bathroom, he admits to moving his foot, he admits to reaching his hand down," Martin said on NBC's "Today" show. "That's not a crime."

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:57 AM
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1. WTF? Didn't he hide this conviction for a couple of weeks? And
some enterprising reporter found it only by combing through the court records?

What a crock.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:01 AM
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8. It was more like a couple of months
Typical repuke, if caught-lie. If the lie doesn't work-come up with a new lie. Then try a different lie.
RULE #1: If the alibi changes every five minutes, somebody's lying.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:58 AM
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2. But nobody knew about it for 2 months?
:freak:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:02 AM
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9. All the more proof
of the insidious, cunning, and deceitful nature of the media. I would like to say that it is reporters who are fully responsible for every error that I've made, including but not limited to those that were never reported. Bastards!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:13 AM
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19. I agree. If he can use that excuse we all should be able to blame
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 09:14 AM by acmavm
the media for our screw-ups.

I have two ex-husbands I'd sure like to blame someone else for. I think I'll make it all Dan Rather's fault.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:24 AM
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22. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
:rofl:
This is a case of 'I'll do anything to make it go away'. It didn't work.
I have no sympathy for Larry Craig and I'm betting that neither does Bill Clinton.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:58 AM
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3. you volunteer a guilty plea because of the MEDIA?
THAT IS EVEN LESS CREDIBLE than most of W's Bushisms.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:58 AM
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4. you fight Larry .... never give up ..... keep fighting Larry

Martin said Monday that Craig did not "knowingly and intelligently enter a guilty plea."
The senator simply admitted conduct that "itself does not constitute a crime," Martin said.

:rofl:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:59 AM
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5. How does Senator Craig feel about waterboarding?
If "hounding by the press" caused him to plea guilty to something he didn't do, how reliable are the "confessions" obtained in Gitmo? Let's take a look at Senator Craig's voting record on torture.

Well, whaddya know. He voted for torture every single time.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:00 AM
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6. People do sometimes plead guilty to crimes they are innocent of
Like when they have a plastic bag put over their head or are beaten silly by the police. That is a fact.

I don't think that is the case here though.

Don
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:00 AM
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7. "Craig did not knowingly and intelligently enter a guilty plea"
Translation: "My client is as dumb as a box of rocks". He is after all, a Republican.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:03 AM
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10. You're wrong on that
A box of rocks is smarter, it at least has enough sense to keep quiet.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:06 AM
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13. No Craig had 6 weeks in Idaho and Washington D.C. to consult w/
his lawyer(s) before he sent his plea back in by mail.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:19 AM
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20. So the press was hounding him during that entire 6 weeks? Um, ok. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:22 AM
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21. They were following him and his family to CHURCH!!!
Oh no, that was the Vitters. And Jeff Gannon.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:04 AM
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11. Ah, yes. Another shining example of Republican "personal responsibility."
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 09:05 AM by mcscajun
"It's not My Fault!"
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:06 AM
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12. Didn't he plead guilty BEFORE the press ever heard about it?
This guy is more delusional than the average republicon
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:07 AM
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14. I swear, you can't make this stuff up!
Craig's implosion just gets better every day!

Don't let that evil "librul" media get to ya, Larry. You keep on fighting!

:rofl:
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:08 AM
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15. Soooo pathetic.
Soooo typical Republican.

Do whatever you want - and if you get caught - deny and blame.

Pathetic, really.
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:09 AM
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16. Logically, it's an interesting argument...complete bullshit, of course...
I have to say, that's a creative argument. If you plead guilty then claim to be innocent, then your guilty plea is invalid because the fact that you pleaded guilty while believing that no crime was committed invalidates the guilty plea because it wasn't entered "knowingly and intelligently"...whew!

This is going to fly like the Hindenburg, but it is interesting logic.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:13 AM
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17. Hypocrite & liar or hypocrite and delusional?
It ain't about orientation, das fer sur.

We know he has a lawyer. At this point, one wonders if what he really needs is a doctor.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:13 AM
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18. Oh jeez, Craig. Cry me a river!
:cry:
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:43 PM
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23. I say let him withdraw it --
-- then the DA should simply refuse to plea bargain, and the judge should set the trial for, oh, say, October 2008.

The spectacle of this dimwit hypocrite trying to demonstrate his "wide stance" in open court just before the elections would be a priceless gift to the Democrats. The find him guilty and throw him in the slammer for a month.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:16 PM
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24. The judge should throw him in contempt.
Yep, revoke the plea, set it for trial. That means that he's saying he committed perjury when he pled guilty to the lesser charge.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:18 PM
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25. So he pleads guilty to something because the press has been trying to expose his sex life?
It would seem to me he would want to plead innocent.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:38 PM
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26. What Message Is He Sending Our Children?
That lying to a judge is acceptable when you're too stressed out to deal with it?

I'm being sarcastic, but not entirely. Just another member of the Personal Responsibility Party acting hypocritically.
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