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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:22 PM
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He could have atleast bought a new outfit for the special occasion
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 04:24 PM by MassDemm
Bin Laden 2004:




Bin Laden 2007:






I wonder if he wears the same thing everyday? Could that be the reason?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:23 PM
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1. first image not showing up..... n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:24 PM
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3. I fixed it. thanks! nt
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:26 PM
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4. how can a man on the run, living in caves get *less* gray in his beard?
do Muslim men dye their hair??
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:29 PM
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7. maybe he used blueberries, do they have blueberries i pakistan? nt
:rofl:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:34 PM
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11. Yes, Muslims dye their hair.
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 04:35 PM by merh
It is recommended that they do it so that they are not like the Christians and Jews.

"It was reported that the Jews and Christians refrained from dyeing the hair, regarding such beautification and adornment as contrary to piety and devotion, and not befitting rabbis, priests, and ascetics. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade Muslims from imitating these people or following in their ways, in order that Muslims might develop their own distinctive and independent characteristics in appearance and behavior.

Al-Bukhari, on the authority of Abu Hurayrah, quoted the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying, 'The Jews and Christians do not dye their hair, so be different from them.'

This, however, is not a command but only a recommendation, as is evident from the actions of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) such as Abu Bakr and `Umar, who used to dye their hair. Others, such as `Ali, Ubay ibn Ka`b, and Anas, did not.

The question now remains as to what type of dye is to be used. Should it be black or are there any other colors? Or black should be avoided?

If a man is advanced in age with white hair and a beard, it would hardly be appropriate for him to dye his hair black. On the day of the conquest of Makkah, Abu Bakr brought his aged father, Abu Quhafah, carrying him until he had him seated in front of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). On seeing Abu Quhafah's snow-white hair, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, 'Change this, but avoid black.' (Fath Al-Bari)

In contrast, if a man is not of such advanced age or feebleness as that of Abu Quhafah, there is no harm in his using black dye. In this regard, Az-Zuhri said, 'We dyed our hair black when the face looked young, but discarded it when the face became wrinkled and the teeth decayed.' (Reported by Ibn Abu `Asim in the book on 'Dyeing the Hair')

Some of the early Muslims, including some Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) such as Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, `Uqbah ibn `Amr, Al-Hassan, Al-Hussayn, Jareer, and others permitted the use of black dye. Some scholars do not consider the use of black dye as permissible except during time of war, with possibility of making the enemy thrown off balance by seeing all Muslim soldiers in their blossoming youth.

Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated, 'The best thing with which to dye gray hair is Henna and Katm.' (Mentioned in Fath Al-Bari) Henna makes the hair red, while Katm, a plant from Yemen, colors it black, tinged with red. Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) says, 'Abu Bakr dyed his hair with Henna and Katm, and `Umar dyed it with Henna only.'"

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:38 PM
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13. ok, he's still active and unwrinkled so I guess it's dyed
cuz it's sure black black
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:40 PM
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14. That is to try to intimidate the enemy
to look healthy and young and full of vigor

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:51 PM
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17. yeah the more wrinkles you got the worse jet black dyed hair looks
or so say the hairdressers, that's why older ladies are advised to dye hair lighter than in their youth, and that's why the famous line about how the widow's hair quite turned gold with grief

:-)
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:19 AM
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23. If it is him, then he has declared war...
"Some scholars do not consider the use of black dye as permissible except during time of war, with possibility of making the enemy thrown off balance by seeing all Muslim soldiers in their blossoming youth."

The indication would be if he has recently dyed his hair and beard that he has declared war. He previously had not done so.

And that may be a signal being sent to al Queda throughout the world.

So "Osama" may in fact be Osama.

The transcript is almost humorous at times. But also very chilling when you "read between the lines." Particularly when you consider the possibility that he purposely died his hair and beard as a signal to his followers that he has declared war.

The problem is the duplicity at work that I doubt anyone can even fathom including the CIA. Two families, two fathers, two sons. Intertwined. We have two enemies. Not one. Both intent on destroying each other. And the rest of us if need be.

If we are attacked again, how will we know who reall attacked us?

You can go nuts thinking about it. The only given is that both men should be tried for crimes against humanity.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:49 PM
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25. War was declared a long time ago
What the hell do you think 9/11 was?

What do you think Bush's war on terror is?

It is not a sign to his followers "with possibility of making the enemy thrown off balance by seeing all Muslim soldiers in their blossoming youth." - It is to stand up to his enemies and show that he is alive and well and has not been stopped, is flourishing.




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Timex Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:20 AM
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24. I dont know nt
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:23 PM
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2. You've got to be kidding me
He looks like he's in a courtroom!
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:26 PM
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5. I wonder if he dyes his beard...
...it looks darker in the 2007 shot.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:28 PM
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6. Orange is an Autumn color, and Osama Bin Forgotten is deffinitely a summer.

Sorry, no play for mister gray!

Obsessed bin Laden wanted to kill Whitney Houston's husband
Last updated at 15:41pm on 22nd August 2006
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=401627&in_page_id=1773

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:30 PM
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8. Notice how grainy the new pics and video are
You would think they could do a better job than that even with a home camcorder.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:31 PM
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9. and it looks like they lightened up the background a little.
It's hard work doncha know? To fool the merican peeps.
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softwarevotingtrail Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:33 PM
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10. I like how the shape of his nose has changed
Used to be pointy and almost bird-like back in 2001. Now it's almost Dick Van Dyke -bulbous. Maybe he's been hitting the sauce. Or maybe IT'S SOMEONE ELSE.





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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:35 PM
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12. huh...
Wouldn't you think that after three years of living in supposedly primitive conditions that the white shirt or golden robes would show a few stains? Or does he had a cedar chest that he keeps his 'video clothes' in so they stay fresh?

If I lived in a cave you can bet my clothing wouldn't be perfectly pressed and in pristine condition after three years.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:42 PM
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15. You're nuts, how could you think such a thing. You are a bad bad bad
American.

:sarcasm:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:52 PM
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18. yeah but you wouldn't be in a cave with 4 wives to do all the work
plus who knows how many concubines or whatever it is these rich guys got
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:49 PM
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16. it's some religious nut costume, so yeah, same thing every day
people in the 6th century did not go to the mall, yanno, and those who want to go back and live in caves are whatever their other faults not usually fashion victims

i wouldn't have expected anything else, seriously

if he really believes his own crap, why wouldn't he have a look and want to be a brand?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:31 PM
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19. Fool us once, fool us twice

That ain't OBL ~
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:36 PM
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20. When did he find the time to work his traps (trapezius muscles) like that?
His clavicle areas seem to be more enhanced, going from a rounded "c" to more of an "a" shape.

Maybe he's juicing.
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WTF cubed Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:37 PM
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21. I wonder if they had trouble finding someone the clothes would fit?
:)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:38 PM
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22. HIs beard color is different.
How can it be gray in 2004 and black in 2007? Unless... that's not really bin Laden, is it?
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