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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:37 PM
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A letter I am writing to a Conservative radio guy
Tell me what you think:


Dear Mr. Belling

I heard you today asking why the Democrats can turn something like the Larry Craig incident into and indictment of the entire party, while bad behavior by a Democrat never seems to result in a similar indictment of the Democratic Party. You called on the Republicans to turn the tables on the Democrats. Tit for tat, if you will.

It won't work.

The reason it won't work hinges on how you would complete this sentence, "The Democratic Party is the party of (blank)" When have we ever made a pronouncement like that, or more importantly, depended on the answer to that question for votes to win elections.

If we are anything, we are the big tent. A hodgepodge of special interests. The Island of Misfit Toys. We stand for a whole bunch of things, and no one thing in particular.

On the other hand, the Republicans are among other things the party of family values, and they have used that identification to gain votes from Evangelical Christians. They've used "Defense of Marriage" referendums and the like to draw such people to the polls. Anti-gay legislation is part of how you get votes.

That is why an incident like the one with Sen. Craig will affect the Republican Party as a whole.

If you're going to hang your hat on such pronouncements as "We're the party of family values" in order to get votes, you'd better damned well make sure you ARE that party, or you're going to have a problem when someone like Mark Foley or Larry Craig comes along.


Cheers.

Erica


Does it make enough sense to send it. How's my logic?



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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:41 PM
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1. End the first paragraph with a question mark
lose the second paragraph, and send it.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:51 PM
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3. The part that starts "The reason it won't work hinges on"?
As opposed to "It won't work."?
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:41 PM
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2. I like it.
I would however take out the references to "A hodgepodge of special interests and The Island of Misfit Toys".
We don't want the words "special interests and misfit toys" describing who we are.
Other than that...

I like it.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:52 PM
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4. I took out that part, but left in "We stand for a whole bunch of things
an no one thing in particular."

Thanks. for the help.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:01 PM
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5. I'll try
Dear Mr. Belling

I heard you today asking why the Democrats can turn something like the Larry Craig incident into and indictment of the entire party, while bad behavior by a Democrat never seems to result in a similar indictment of the Democratic Party. You left out Traficant. You called on the Republicans to turn the tables on the Democrats. Tit for tat, if you will.

It won't work.

The reason it won't work hinges on how you do complete this sentence, "The Democratic Party is the party of (blank)"

The reason it won't work is because the the Republican party IS the party of shunning gay sex while practicing it, it's the party of reducing government while campaigning on massive expenditures and funneling more debt to China, it's the party of family values while its leaders are soliciting sex in bathroom stalls, it's the party of restoring honor to the White house while at the same time inviting a gay not-really-gay-reporters such as Jeff Gannon to the office after hours over 200 times. Your party won't work because it's the party that backs a whore-mongering diaper-filler and not a simple bathroom-sex encountering GOPer just because gay is worse than shitting your pants ONLY if said pants shitter is from a state that has a Republican Governor. If you come from Idaho, your mileage may vary.

If Democrats are anything, we are the big tent. We don't care what you do in your bedrooms. You can do whatever you want with your dick, we don't care. But we will call you on your hypocrisy.

Legislate something useful or we won't vote for you, and we'll continue to campaign against your.
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:13 PM
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6. Efffect not affect..
I guarantee he will find something to fill in your blank about Democrats, and I doubt you will like it.

I would point out that, out of all the sinners, Jesus the Christ most often and most vociferously condemned hypocrites and that He never once mentioned homosexuality.

The very essence of hypocrisy is privately engaging in behavior which you are publicly speaking out against.

The Christ also ran the capitalists out of the temple.

Mark 11:15
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,

To continue, the Christ also condemned divorce..

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Three of the leading Republican candidates for president are adulterers according to the standard set forth by their Savior.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:17 PM
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7. I took that bit out. I didn't ask the question. I just told him what we were
which is the big tent that stands for a bunch of things and no one thing in particular.
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:09 AM
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8. Good..
I find that religious arguments work well with neocons.. Just reference Jesus the Christ's words and they really have no good comeback.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 01:06 AM
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9. Sadly You Probably Gave Him Material To Twist
While I understand your intentions, the only way to confront hate radio asshats is either on the air or in person...perferably in a forum where they don't control the microphone. Unlike a LTTE, or a complaint that you request put in the station's public file, I could see this goon taking your honest queries and ridiculing you on the air with it...and you have no way to respond. Hope I'm wrong.
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 03:48 AM
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10. You are right about that ...
Media personalities in general are scum.

And neocon media personalities make scum look like cream.
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