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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:11 PM Original message |
Here's why we need Hate Crimes Legislation: |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. What we need |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Your thought process really is so flawed ------- |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Thanks |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Bluebear...You Rock INCESSANTLY. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Not all hate crimes are violent crimes |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Unequal in what way? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Because hate crimes terrorize a whole community, not just the victim |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I do see your point, |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Look up "overkill", then get back to us. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Why won't you address this post? |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I'm sorry, |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. If you looked up overkill you'd know what I meant. |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. The literal meaning of overkill |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. In your own words: |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Whos life are we valuing more? |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Plus, it would make it a Federal crime, as well, giving our community equal footing |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. In theory you are correct |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Since I'm not responsible for those remarks |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I support expanding the hate crimes bill. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Great. But since the LGBT community isn't protected by Hate Crimes legislation |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Oh, totally |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. That Is Not What It's About. |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Your point is well made |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And I Agree With Your Last Statement. |
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sailor65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No doubt about it |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Dupe. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. It has nothing to do with value of life but severity of the crime. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. "I just hate the idea that we would value one human's life more or less than another." |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
59. I'll have to disagree with that |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Here: |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Beautifully said, my friend!! |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Thanks! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. i think *non-violent* hate crime is the only proper place for penalty enhancement |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. There's nothing about "enhancement". |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. LGBT needs inclusion as long as we have hate crime legislation -- for sure |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. We've had Hate Crimes legislation since the 1960's. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. actually, murdering a woman DOES send that message as we see with nearly every serial killer |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. What we need is to add the LGBT community to the Hate Crimes legislation that already exists. n/t |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thank you friend... |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. ... |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. another kick and recommend.......... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "Because civilized people accept the differences of others." |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. ... |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. My 2 cents |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I see what you mean... |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Credit to Thom Hartmann - man he is good |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. k&r |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. i love you |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. Holy Shit. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. ... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thank you so much, darlin'. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yes, read the comments!! |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. this kiLLs me |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. k&r...n/t |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. This is what a Hate Crime looks like: |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
48. why isn't rape be considered a hate crime? |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Rape is horrendous. What does that have to do with overkill? |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
51. Here's what a Hate crime looks like: |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
58. For those you have issue with GLBT hate crime inclusion or overkill.... |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
60. K&R |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
61. Kick |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. Kick. For Tucker Carlson. |
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